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Columbia Prof's Remarks Spark Furor:Callers Wish 'A Million Mogadishus' on Professor
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| 29 March 2003
| Ron Howell
Posted on 03/29/2003 12:07:52 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Frapster
"If the professor wants 1,000 mogadihus then let's do the math.
17 * 1000 is 17000 American trooops lost.
1000 * 1000 is 1,000,000 Iraqis dead. "
But it is a "Million Mogadishus"
That's 17,000,000 US dead.
and 1 Billion Iraqi dead.
(Thus, it would have to be China or India)
To: ejdouglas
the same google search will quickly provide the names of the twenty or so trustees of Columbia University. These are the people with the actual power, when push comes to shove. the conventional wisdom is that academic freedom protects a professor, but academic freedom is a narrower issue than the public supposes. For this professor to make treasonous statements is his own personal choice in a democracy, but it has nothing to do with the subject matter he teaches nor with his position at Columbia, so there is no reason why the trustees could not instruct the president of Columbia to dismiss him. What he did does not fall under the purview of academic freedom at all. It does fall under his free speech rights, but he should not expect to be immune from adverse consequences of a free speech right he chose unwisely to exercise. Any of us are intellegent enough, even if not an Ivy League Anthropology Professor, to know that what you say can have consequences, and getting fired could be one of them. Columbia trustees-- make history and fire the radical bastard.
To: jwalsh07
It's sad to know we have such idealogically diseased minds teaching American students.
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posted on
03/29/2003 6:05:41 PM PST
by
Jorge
To: mewzilla
Thanks for the link! Yes, it makes clear that Bollinger can't play dumb.
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posted on
03/29/2003 6:21:03 PM PST
by
mrustow
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To: edwin hubble
lol - I stand corrected.
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posted on
03/29/2003 6:52:10 PM PST
by
Frapster
(*cough*)
To: Disgusted in Texas
Show me one Ivy League school where such talk isn't the norm....................................just one.
.....and they wonder why enrollments in their s**tholes are down.
To: Landru
...I presume Mr. DeGenova's not yet tenured? Only an oversight. I'm sure he will be soon. Probably 95% of the faculty of Columbia agrees with him.
Message: Don't send your kids there. Or if they want to go for leftist indoctrination, make them pay for it themselves.
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posted on
03/29/2003 7:10:11 PM PST
by
livius
To: mrustow
On Wednesday night, De Genova said, "The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military." Newsday also quoted him as saying, "I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus."
a number of them applauded later when he said, "If we really that this war is criminal ... then we have to believe in the victory of the Iraqi people and the defeat of the U.S. war machine." University president Lee C. Bollinger called Newsday to say he was stunned by the comments made by Assistant Professor Nicholas De Genova, one of more than two dozen speakers at a "teach-in" Wednesday night. "I am shocked that someone would make such statements," Bollinger said Friday in a telephone interview from Seattle, where he was traveling. "I am especially saddened for the families of those whose lives are now at risk."
Why? Those are the kind of statements made every day in our universities by leftist professors. Nothing new here.
To: livius
I agree with your message!!!
To: livius
"Only an oversight. I'm sure he will be soon. Probably 95% of the faculty of Columbia agrees with him."Sure, but you had to notice even the troublemaker/organizer distanced himself from the loudmouth, too.
"Message: Don't send your kids there. Or if they want to go for leftist indoctrination, make them pay for it themselves."
HA!!
...some very sage advise.
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posted on
03/29/2003 11:06:11 PM PST
by
Landru
Comment #71 Removed by Moderator
To: mrustow
My pleasure! bttt . . .
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posted on
03/30/2003 5:37:27 AM PST
by
MeekOneGOP
(Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
To: Victoria Delsoul
You're right, of course. Bollinger must have been concerned, because donors and alumni are now reading this stuff in the newspapers, during a popular war, and he might lose his golden calf.
As Mewzilla showed in #46 (hit link), Bollinger knew all about his faculty's, including de Genova's, positions.
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posted on
03/30/2003 11:53:29 AM PST
by
mrustow
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To: MeeknMing
Bumpbackatcha!
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posted on
03/30/2003 11:53:59 AM PST
by
mrustow
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To: Landru
Assistant Professor Nicholas De Genova. There's still plenty of time for this one to recieve his just comeuppance, mr.
...I presume Mr. DeGenova's not yet tenured?
You presume correctly, L.
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posted on
03/30/2003 3:20:38 PM PST
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mrustow
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To: mrustow
Well, obviosly this yahoo is not a professor of Mathematics.
The kill ratio in Somalia was 100 dead Somalis per 1 dead American. Multiply that ratio by 1 million (as he suggests) and you get 100 Million dead Muslims.
I doubt this idiot is smart enough to realize what he is advocating. :)
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posted on
03/31/2003 12:49:16 PM PST
by
Lorianne
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