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Woman Pulls Gun on Unarmed Assailant
The Macomb Daily ^ | Norb Franz

Posted on 03/29/2003 5:14:30 AM PST by Mean Daddy

A would-be robber got a little more than he bargained for after targeting the wrong motorist at a Warren intersection. Acting as if he had a handgun, the man tried to rob a 40-year-old woman. But he wound up on the wrong end of a pistol wielded by his intended victim.

The Warren woman told police she braked for a stop sign on Lorraine Boulevard at Dodge Avenue, when the man opened the driver's door of her 1991 Oldsmobile Cutlass. With his hand in his right pocket, he pressed an object to her jaw that she believed was a gun.

The culprit ordered her to give him money -- but she had other thoughts.

Clutching $6 in one hand, she began struggling with him as he again demanded her money.

Determined not to become a robbery statistic, the woman reached with her other hand to the passenger seat for her 9 mm handgun, grabbed the pistol and pointed it at his face.

"If you're going to shoot me then do it, 'cause I'm definitely going to kill you," the brave resident replied, according to police reports.

The surprised assailant ran without getting a cent. He is described as a black male in his mid 20s, 6 feet tall, 165 pounds, wearing a blue skull cap and baggy blue jeans.

No shots were fired.

Shaken by the incident, the woman waited until Tuesday to report the March 19 holdup attempt. Reports state that she felt by the time she had regained her composure, she thought it was too late to file a complaint. The woman eventually approached two Warren patrolmen investigating a report of a stolen automobile on her block on Packard Avenue.

The Warren woman, whose name is not being published by The Macomb Daily, has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, police said. Attempts by the newspaper to reach her for comment were unsuccessful.

Detectives have not yet determined if the attempted holdup is related to an earlier similar incident. Police said a teen-age boy told a woman at Fast Track gasoline station on Van Dyke that he needed a ride to Lakeside mall in Sterling Heights. When she said no, he brandished a handgun, Detective Sgt. Scott Pavlik said.

The woman drove off, circled the area and called police after spotting the teen. Officers arrested him a short time later.


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To: Under the Radar
I feel free to say "who gives a $hit". So Karl Marx has one redeeming quality. Robert Heinlein is beyond your puny "PaleoConservative" (whatever your definition is) understanding. It does not suprise me that you are an agnostic.

Have a good life, sir. And an eternity in doubt.

101 posted on 03/29/2003 5:57:19 PM PST by BullDog108 (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.)
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To: Mean Daddy
When I clicked on this thread I got a request for a cookie from Smith-Wesson.com. What's up with that?
102 posted on 03/29/2003 6:03:56 PM PST by fightu4it (allyourbasearebelongtous!)
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To: Mean Daddy; B4Ranch
American women have access to two of the most powerful defensive tools on earth.

guns, and hormones.

neither of which I'd get in the way of!

103 posted on 03/29/2003 8:32:04 PM PST by Pete-R-Bilt (Piece Rally for America - mine's a 45)
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To: rugerman
Ha!
104 posted on 03/29/2003 8:45:21 PM PST by 2Jedismom (‘And those who have not swords can still die upon them.')
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To: Pearls Before Swine
"However it is also true that the damage to the target is done by the buller's kinetic energy, and since the article used the term "energy" instead of "momentum", I thought I'd point out that the bullet winds up with most of the kinetic energy upon firing, even if the momentum from the recoil matches that of the bullet."

We may be in agreement. I understand that basically, momentum is what can knock the target over, while energy is what can tear up its insides.


105 posted on 03/30/2003 7:25:11 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed
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To: Mean Daddy
No shots were fired.

Great, he is still out there and his next victim may not be armed.

106 posted on 03/30/2003 7:35:29 AM PST by thepitts
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To: Beelzebubba
We may be in agreement.

We are.

107 posted on 03/30/2003 7:37:01 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: 2Jedismom
I love this story! I don't really blame her for not shooting, it just wasn't her nature to kill. Besides, there is SO much paperwork involved when you do that.

This reminds me of two stories. The first was when a student of Jeff Cooper's Gunsite was driving home from just having spent a week learning combat shooting. He was stopped in traffic waiting for the green light when a thug walked up and leaned into his open passenger side window and brandished a knife. The new graduate of the shooting academy stuck his .45 in the thug's face and said "What do you want?" The thug said "I want to be somewhere else."

The second story is the funniest I have ever heard regarding guns. Two NYPD stakeout cops were assigned to stake out a liquor store in a section of town where a robber kept killing the store owners even when they coooperated by giving the robber all the money with no problem. The cops knew they'd have a hard time taking this guy down, so they went prepared. They each had a 12 guage shotgun, a 14 shot Browning auto, and a six shooter for backup. Sure enough, the bad guy came in and held up that liquor store. He was hopped up on herione and felt no pain. When they got an open shot, they began firing. Each emptied their shotguns into the guy and he was down but still trying to reach for his gun, so they went for their autos and emptied those into the guy. He was still struggling to pick his own gun up and return fire, so they went to their revolvers and emptied those into the robber/addict. The guy finally died. The liberal newspapers in NYC had a field day because the bad guy had been shot 52 times. The Chief called in the two cops and askd "Why on God's green earth did you shoot this poor man 52 times?" Their reply was "Because we ran out of ammo."
108 posted on 03/31/2003 12:53:44 AM PST by rugerman
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To: Mean Daddy
She's certainly justified in defending herself, but it may or may not have been the wisest thing to do. If he had, in fact, had a gun to her head, he very easily could have opened fire the second she started to struggle. If not then, he certainly might have fired when she went for her own gun. It really depends on the situation, but the advice I've always heard is to go ahead and give someone your car if that sort of thing happens. On average, the people who give up the car are LESS LIKELY to get hurt and after all, it's only a car.

Like I said, though, this defnitely depends on the circumstances and in this case she hopefully gave the guy enough of a scare that he will think twice before trying anything that stupid again.

I'm really up in the air on the value of firearms. If everyone in the country had a gun, would it create a situation more like Switzerland, with one of the lowest crime rates in the world or South Africa, with one of the highest?
109 posted on 03/31/2003 12:52:22 PM PST by gomaaa
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To: gomaaa
If everyone in the country had a gun, would it create a situation more like Switzerland, with one of the lowest crime rates in the world or South Africa, with one of the highest?

In Switzerland most people have hope for a good long life, in South Africa most people (except the Zulu's) have no hope for any kind of decent life. When you live in a hopeless society, human life is cheap. I expect that Americans are much closer to Switzerland than South Africa on the matter of hope for the most part.

And if history is any example, we will be much less violence prone when more of us are armed. After all, until a few decades ago, our gun death rates were much, much lower and more people had guns.

110 posted on 03/31/2003 1:08:29 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Mean Daddy
No shots were fired.

Once again the mere sight of a gun stops a crime.

111 posted on 03/31/2003 1:10:43 PM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: the_Watchman
The rental car we have in Paris has special door locks: NONE! In order to meet the specification of certain EU countries, I'm not sure which, the doors cannot be locked while passengers are in the car. This is supposedly so that if there is an emergency, the emergency personnel will not be locked out of the car.

That is totally insane. Progress indeed!

112 posted on 03/31/2003 1:11:47 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: BullDog108
That is a very good quote.
113 posted on 04/21/2003 8:10:01 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: rugerman
"This reminds me of two stories. The first was when a student of Jeff Cooper's Gunsite was driving home from just having spent a week learning combat shooting. He was stopped in traffic waiting for the green light when a thug walked up and leaned into his open passenger side window and brandished a knife. The new graduate of the shooting academy stuck his .45 in the thug's face and said "What do you want?" The thug said "I want to be somewhere else."

1911 Kimber Custom - $750
Federal Hydra-shok 230gr. rounds - $20
The look on the next knife-weilding muggers face - priceless.
114 posted on 04/21/2003 8:30:52 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Bluntpoint
G's, ever hear of a stinkin excerpt???
115 posted on 04/21/2003 8:41:49 AM PDT by BSunday
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