This glove-box weapon is nastier looking still:
It's the new .50 from Smith & Wesson.
Posted on 03/29/2003 5:14:30 AM PST by Mean Daddy
A would-be robber got a little more than he bargained for after targeting the wrong motorist at a Warren intersection. Acting as if he had a handgun, the man tried to rob a 40-year-old woman. But he wound up on the wrong end of a pistol wielded by his intended victim.
The Warren woman told police she braked for a stop sign on Lorraine Boulevard at Dodge Avenue, when the man opened the driver's door of her 1991 Oldsmobile Cutlass. With his hand in his right pocket, he pressed an object to her jaw that she believed was a gun.
The culprit ordered her to give him money -- but she had other thoughts.
Clutching $6 in one hand, she began struggling with him as he again demanded her money.
Determined not to become a robbery statistic, the woman reached with her other hand to the passenger seat for her 9 mm handgun, grabbed the pistol and pointed it at his face.
"If you're going to shoot me then do it, 'cause I'm definitely going to kill you," the brave resident replied, according to police reports.
The surprised assailant ran without getting a cent. He is described as a black male in his mid 20s, 6 feet tall, 165 pounds, wearing a blue skull cap and baggy blue jeans.
No shots were fired.
Shaken by the incident, the woman waited until Tuesday to report the March 19 holdup attempt. Reports state that she felt by the time she had regained her composure, she thought it was too late to file a complaint. The woman eventually approached two Warren patrolmen investigating a report of a stolen automobile on her block on Packard Avenue.
The Warren woman, whose name is not being published by The Macomb Daily, has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, police said. Attempts by the newspaper to reach her for comment were unsuccessful.
Detectives have not yet determined if the attempted holdup is related to an earlier similar incident. Police said a teen-age boy told a woman at Fast Track gasoline station on Van Dyke that he needed a ride to Lakeside mall in Sterling Heights. When she said no, he brandished a handgun, Detective Sgt. Scott Pavlik said.
The woman drove off, circled the area and called police after spotting the teen. Officers arrested him a short time later.
Do you think looking down the barrel of a gun she didn't fire made the scumbag go straight? He'll just look for an easier target next time.
Yeah, when my wife and I got married we moved into this area (8 Mile & Gratiot). Most of our neighbors were cops and firemen. We had the house broken into twice (guns, jewelry, and money stolen), fire-bombed once (dog killed), and the car stolen right out of the driveway. Our church ran bus routes in the 'bad' areas of Detroit. How much worse could it get?
<< This area of Warren, ... Its an older neighborhood, lot of (forgive the term) hillbillies and food stamps. Rap singer Eminem's neighborhood is about 4-6 blocks from this location. >>
Yikes! That intersection, near, is right near where my brother bought his first little house. He had lots of trouble with the neighbors. One of them used an old commode for a flower pot. That lowered property values in the neighborhood. That is an accurate description of that area of Warren.
But I'm not sure how long Marshall (Eminem) lived there. He lived on the Roseville/East Detroit border (near 10 Mile) when my brother and I coached him. I was the FIRST one to make him a star - he made the all-star team in our softball league when he was in 4th grade. I had nothing to do with making him a profane rap star. He was a quiet, shy, little kid when I knew him.
When I was a kid we routinely slaughtered steers and very large hogs with .22 LRs. One shot to the center of the brain at close range dropped them EVERY time without even a squeal.
I can't believe a man is any tougher?
No, I'm just not expressing myself clearly. The article said "energy." I agree that momentum is conserved, and as far as knockdown goes, as you point out, it is the right quantity to use.
However it is also true that the damage to the target is done by the buller's kinetic energy, and since the article used the term "energy" instead of "momentum", I thought I'd point out that the bullet winds up with most of the kinetic energy upon firing, even if the momentum from the recoil matches that of the bullet.
Molon Labe!
This glove-box weapon is nastier looking still:
It's the new .50 from Smith & Wesson.
Plus, I just bought my first handgun a couple of weeks ago. Always had shotguns and rifles, but bought a Springfield XD40 (highly recommended to me several months ago by a forgotten Freeper).
Took it out a couple of weeks ago to shoot and had a lot of fun with it. Picked it up at www.gunbroker.com for $330.
You want a handgun cartridge that has a Hatcher value of over 50 for the most effective stopping power. Values over 55 have diminishing returns in that you don’t gain any significant increase in stopping power for the extra recoil and control you must cope with. Handgun cartridges that don’t make a value of at least 50, should not considered for self-defense. If the rating of your handgun cartridge is under 30, it only has about a 30% chance of producing a one shot stop. Hatcher Ratings of 30 to 49 raise a one shot stop to approximately a 50% chance. Ratings of 50 or higher may produce a one shot stop about 90% of the time.
.45 ACP full metal jacket 230 grain 60.7
*.44 Magnum wad cutter 240 grain 136.8
*.44 Special wad cutter 240 grain 76.5
*.41 Magnum wad cutter 230 grain 80
10 millimeter jacketed hollow point 180 grain 62.1
.40 S&W jacketed hollow point 180 grain 59.4
*.38 Special wad cutter 158 grain 39.7
**.357 Magnum wad cutter 158 grain 48.5
.357 SIG jacketed hollow point 147 grain 45.2
9 millimeter full metal jacket 147 grain 32.3
9 millimeter jacketed hollow point 147 grain 39.9
.380 Auto jacketed hollow point 95 grain 18.3
.32 Auto jacketed hollow point 71 grain 11.1
.25 Auto jacketed hollow point 50 grain 3.7
.22 Long Rifle jacketed hollow point 40 grain 4.2
* Jacketed hollow points will have the same rating as wad cutter bullets if the bullet hollow tip is greater than 1/2 of the caliber of the bullet.
** .357 Magnum ratings are taken from a firearm with a 3 inch barrel. Longer barrels will raise the rating of the round.
More on Marx and the childish distain Heinlein shared with Communists regarding specialization in modern society can be found here, here, and here.
". . . as soon as the distribution of labour comes into being, each man has a particular, exclusive sphere of activity, which is forced upon him and from which he cannot escape. He is a hunter, a fisherman, a shepherd, or a critical critic, and must remain so if he does not want to lose his means of livelihood; while in communist society, where nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, shepherd or critic."
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