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1 posted on 03/28/2003 5:49:29 PM PST by vannrox
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rats! Now they'll have to make up a whole new confusing set of erroneous terms!
49 posted on 03/28/2003 6:52:41 PM PST by ALS
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To: vannrox
Time is caused by the fact that things don't all happen at once. Space is caused by the fact that some things are over here, and other things are over there. These scientists who insist on making things complicated just kill me.
55 posted on 03/28/2003 7:24:17 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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As someone with a Master's in Physics, all I can say is...

KA-BOOM!

The conclusion, if true, is going to cause decades of dogma to be tossed out the window.
56 posted on 03/28/2003 7:25:51 PM PST by Windcatcher ("So what did Doug use?" "He used...sarcasm!")
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To: patton
I was just thinking about this the other day too!....Just before COPS came on
60 posted on 03/28/2003 7:40:49 PM PST by paul51
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To: vannrox; Windcatcher
"Using existing theories, the team led by Dr. Roberto Ragazzoni from the Astrophysical Observatory of Arcetri, Italy, and the Max Planck Institute for Astronomy in Heidelberg, Germany, calculated that infinitesimally small quantum-scale variations in space time would blur images of galaxies seen from vast distances across the universe".

This is based solely on the statement above. Is it true? Seems like they just took their word. If light doesn't blur, it might not be because of the new theory.

Maybe someone could enlighten me.
62 posted on 03/28/2003 7:47:00 PM PST by TheLion
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They are messing with my existence again...
66 posted on 03/28/2003 8:04:48 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Gary Boldwater
Since the expected blurring "signature" of quantum space time isn't seen, however, it might mean that time isn't made of quantum bits, and neither are space or gravity.

Yah think it could be sumpin else?
69 posted on 03/28/2003 8:09:08 PM PST by aruanan
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All we are in dust in the wind dude--- "Ted" Theodore Logan.
115 posted on 03/28/2003 9:18:50 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: vannrox
read later
135 posted on 03/28/2003 10:10:24 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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Does this mean I have to have my tax return done on April 15 or not?
136 posted on 03/28/2003 10:16:31 PM PST by rolling_stone
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A fun read. Thanks.
140 posted on 03/29/2003 2:40:54 AM PST by happygrl
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The German astronomer wasn't Hans Blix was it?
141 posted on 03/29/2003 2:48:58 AM PST by wolfman
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I'm glad you cleared that up for me.
142 posted on 03/29/2003 2:50:23 AM PST by Bullish
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This is cool,PH. Science with humility instead of Established Religion. Like the good old days. Can gravity and time be kind of the same thing?
144 posted on 03/29/2003 7:03:46 AM PST by metacognative
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The Ultimate Unified Theory of Everything consists of: Photons, Croutons, Neurons, Futons, Carrions, Gravitons, Crayons, and Morons. All else is irrelevant.
146 posted on 03/29/2003 7:19:58 AM PST by Consort
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Ummmmm....

Anybody want to dumb this down for the Homer Simpson like amongst us? Not ME, mind you...I'm just thinking of others. Yeah, that's it!
166 posted on 03/29/2003 1:14:20 PM PST by The Lake City Gar
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Cub Scout Astronomy Belt Loop BUMP
171 posted on 03/29/2003 2:02:12 PM PST by seams2me
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Do not panic.

This aplies only to Quantum gravity / space / time.

Quantum effects will continue to operate sort of reliably in the electromagnetic spectrum for the time being. Your apliances will continue to function as well, or poorly, as ever.

So9

177 posted on 03/29/2003 3:15:21 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (Did I say that?)
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Astronomers Deal Blow To Quantum Theories Of Time, Space, Gravity

Historically every 'theory' in physics, astronomy, biology etc. was replaced by another 'theory', Enstein is no god and his 'theory' will be eventualy replaced with another 'theory'.

181 posted on 03/29/2003 3:33:20 PM PST by Anticommie
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Einstein's cosmological constant also doesn't work for the observed universe. Einstein felt that there was a built-in red shift with distance -- no doppler effect required. However, the effect turned out to be too small to be observed. I've often wondered if the Red Shift we do observe is Einstein's cosmological constant in action. But that would imply that the universe is much, much smaller than we perceive. Spiral galaxies became dusty star clusters, quasars become normal stars red-shifted by the cosmological constant.

A silly idea, but it would also explain why we're not seeing a quantum blurring effect when we look at supposedly distant galaxies. IE, the galaxies aren't distant enough to have a blurring effect!

182 posted on 03/29/2003 3:36:24 PM PST by JoeSchem
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