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Disillusioned Human Shields
NewsMax ^ | March 28, 2003 | Reed Irvine

Posted on 03/28/2003 10:21:10 AM PST by NYer

At the Army’s daily briefing in Qatar on March 26, a reporter asked Gen. Vincent Brooks what he had to say to the human shields who have gone to Iraq to risk their lives to stop the war. The general missed a great opportunity to tell what two of these "human shields" had recently said about what they learned in Baghdad that caused them to abandon their plans to risk their lives trying to protect innocent Iraqi civilians.

In a dispatch from Amman, Jordan, distributed by UPI and published in the Washington Times on March 23, veteran foreign correspondent Arnaud de Borchgrave reported that a group of Americans who had joined a delegation of Japanese "human shields" in Iraq had changed their minds and fled the country with 14 hours of videotaped interviews with Iraqis who hoped the Coalition forces would be their liberators.

The spokesman for the group, the Rev. Kenneth Joseph, a pastor of the Assyrian Church of the East, an ancient Christian church that has a substantial membership in the United States, told de Borchgrave that his trip to Iraq "had shocked me back to reality."

He said that his talks with Iraqis convinced him that Saddam is "a monster the likes of which the world had not seen since Stalin and Hitler. He and his sons are sick sadists. Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so [the torture masters] could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head."

He told de Borchgrave that some of the Iraqis he had interviewed on camera told him they would commit suicide if the American bombing didn’t start and that they were willing to see their homes destroyed if it would free them from Saddam’s bloody tyranny.

The Rev. Joseph and his group were not the only would-be human shields who changed their minds after hearing what Iraqi civilians had to say about Saddam. Daniel Pepper, a 23-year-old Jewish American living in London who had traveled in the Middle East as a student and a photographer for Newsweek, went to Iraq on Jan. 25 with a group that intended to serve as human shields to call attention to the anti-war movement. He wrote about his experience in the London Telegraph on March 23.

He said, "The human shields appealed to my anti-war stance, but by the time I had left Baghdad five weeks later my views had changed drastically. I wouldn’t say that I was exactly pro-war. No, I am ambivalent, but I have a strong desire to see Saddam removed. I was shocked when I first met a pro-war Iraqi in Baghdad – a taxi driver taking me back to my hotel late at night. I explained that I was American and said, as we shields always did, ‘Bush bad, war bad, Iraq good.’ He looked at me with an expression of incredulity.

"He slowed down and started to speak in broken English about the evils of Saddam’s regime. Until then I had only heard the president spoken of with respect, but now this guy was telling me how all of Iraq’s oil money went into Saddam’s pocket and that if you opposed him politically he would kill your whole family. It scared the hell out of me. ... I had read reports that Iraqis hated Saddam Hussein, but this was the real thing. Someone had explained it to me face to face. ... I became increasingly concerned about the way the Iraqi regime was restricting the movement of the shields, so a few days later I left Baghdad for Jordan by taxi with five others."

Safely over the border, they asked the driver "what he felt about the regime and the threat of an aerial bombardment." He surprised them, saying: "The Americans don’t want to bomb civilians. They want to bomb the government and Saddam’s palaces. We want America to bomb Saddam. All Iraqi people want this war."

He was convinced that Saddam had paid them to come to Iraq. Pepper concluded his article saying, "Anyone with half a brain must see that Saddam has to be taken out. It is extraordinarily ironic that the anti-war protesters are marching to defend a government which stops people from exercising that freedom."

Extraordinary indeed.

Reed Irvine is chairman of Accuracy in Media.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: epiphany; humanshields; iraq; kennethjoseph; liberation; saddamhussein
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1 posted on 03/28/2003 10:21:11 AM PST by NYer
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Guess you missed this article. Pass it on.


'Human Shield' Wannabe Admits: 'I Was Wrong'
NewsMax.com ^ | Friday, March 28, 2003 | Ken Joseph Jr.


Posted on 03/28/2003 11:10 AM CST by Toidylop


AMMAN, Jordan – I was wrong. I had opposed the war on Iraq in my radio program, on television and in my regular columns, and I participated in demonstrations against it in Japan. But a visit to relatives in Baghdad radically changed my mind.

I am an Assyrian Christian, born and raised in Japan, where my father had moved after World War II to help rebuild the country. He was a Protestant minister, and so am I.

As an Assyrian I was told the story of our people from a young age: how my grandparents had escaped the great Assyrian Holocaust in 1917 and settled finally in Chicago.

There are about 6 million Assyrians now, about 2.5 million in Iraq and the rest scattered across the world. Without a country and rights even in our native land, it has been the prayer of generations that the Assyrian nation will one day be restored.

A few weeks ago, I traveled to Iraq with supplies for our church and family. This was my first visit ever to the land of my forefathers. The first order of business was to attend church. During a simple meal for peace activists after the service, an older man sounded me out carefully.

Iraqi: 'We Want the War'

Finally he felt free to talk: "There is something you should know - we didn't want to be here tonight. When the priest asked us to gather for a peace service, we said we didn't want to come because we don't want peace. We want the war to come."

"What in the world are you talking about?" I blurted.

Thus began a strange odyssey that shattered my convictions. At the same time, it gave me hope for my people and, in fact, hope for the world.

Because of my invitation as a "religious person" and family connections, I was spared the government snoops who ordinarily tail foreigners 24 hours a day.

This allowed me to see and hear amazing things as I stayed in the homes of several relatives. The head of our tribe urged me not to remain with my people during its time of trial but instead go out and tell the world about the nightmare ordinary Iraqis are going through.

'We Live Like Animals'

I was to tell the world about the terror on the faces of my family when a stranger knocked at the door. "Look at our lives!" they said. "We live like animals: no food, no car, no telephone, no job, and, most of all, no hope."

That's why they wanted this war.

"You cannot imagine what it is to live like this for 20, 30 years. We have to keep up our routine lest we would lose our minds."

But I realized in every household that someone had already lost his or her mind; in other societies such a person would be in a mental hospital. I also realized that there wasn't a household that did not mourn at least one family member who had become a victim of this police state.

I wept with relatives whose son just screamed all day long. I cried with a relative who had lost his wife. Yet another left home every day for a "job" where he had nothing to do. Still another had lost a son to war and a husband to alcoholism.

As I observed the slow death of a people without hope, Saddam Hussein seemed omnipresent. There were his statues; posters showed him with his hand outstretched or firing his rifle, or wearing an Arab headdress. These images seemed to be on every wall, in the middle of the road, in homes.

"Everything will be all right when the war is over," people told me. "No matter how bad it is, we will not all die. Twelve years ago, it went almost all the way but failed. We cannot wait anymore. We want the war, and we want it now."

The People Don't Want the U.N.

When I told members of my family that some sort of compromise with Iraq was being worked out at the United Nations, they reacted not with joy but anger: "Only war will get out of our present condition."

This reminded me of the stories I heard from older Japanese who had welcomed the sight of American B-29 bombers in the skies over their country as a sign that the war was coming to an end. True, these planes brought destruction, but also hope.

'I Felt Terrible About Having Demonstrated Against the War'

I felt terrible about having demonstrated against the war without bothering to ask what the Iraqis wanted. Tears streamed down my face as I lay in my bed in a tiny Baghdad house crowded in with 10 other people of my own flesh and blood, all exhausted, all without hope. I thought, "How dare I claim to speak for people I had not even asked what they wanted?"

Then I began a strange journey to let the world know of the true situation in Iraq, just as my tribe had begged me to. With great risk to myself and those who had told their stories and allowed my camera into their homes, I videotaped their plight.

But would I get that tape out of the country?

To make sure I was not simply getting the feelings of the oppressed Assyrian minority, I spoke to dozens of other people, all terrified. Over and over they told me, "We would be killed for speaking like this." Yet they did speak, though only in private homes or when other Iraqis had assured them that no government minder was watching over me.

I spoke with a former army member, with someone working for the police, with taxi drivers, store owners, mothers and government officials. All had the same message: "Please bring on the war. We may lose our lives, but for our children's sake, please, please end our misery."

'Soldiers Hated Their Work'

On my last day in Baghdad, I saw soldiers putting up sandbags. By their body language, these men made it clear that they dared not speak but hated their work; they were unmistakably on the side of the common people.

I wondered how my relatives felt about the United States and Britain. Their feelings were mixed. They have no love for the allies -- but they trust them.

"We are not afraid of the American bombing. They will bomb carefully and not purposely target the people," I was told. "What we are afraid of is Saddam and the Baath Party will do when the war begins."

The final call for help came at the most unexpected place - the border, where crying members of my family sent me off.

The taxi fares from Baghdad to Amman had risen within one day from $100 to $300, to $500 and then to $1,000 by nightfall.

My driver looked on anxiously as a border guard patted me down. He found my videotapes, and I thought: It's all over!

For once I experienced what my relatives were going through 365 days a year - sheer terror. Quietly, the officer laid the tapes on a desk, one by one. Then he looked at me - was it with sadness or with anger? Who knows?

He clinically shook his head and without a word handed all the tapes back to me. He didn't have to say anything. He spoke the only language left to these imprisoned Iraqis, the silent language of human kindness.

"Please take these tapes and show them to the world," was his silent message. "Please help us ... and hurry!" The Rev. Ken Joseph Jr. lives in Tokyo and directs Assyrianchristians.com.
2 posted on 03/28/2003 10:23:58 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (Citizen Carry)
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To: Siobhan; american colleen; sinkspur; livius; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; ...
The spokesman for the group, the Rev. Kenneth Joseph, a pastor of the Assyrian Church of the East, an ancient Christian church that has a substantial membership in the United States, told de Borchgrave that his trip to Iraq "had shocked me back to reality."

I am concerned about several of Mother Teresa's nuns who decided to remain in Baghdad to care for a group of crippled children, aged 2 to 12. Any news on them?

3 posted on 03/28/2003 10:25:01 AM PST by NYer (God Bless America. Please pray for our troops!)
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I am concerned about several of Mother Teresa's nuns who decided to remain in Baghdad to care for a

Barring the placement of any military facilities in their courtyard or immediate proximity they should be okay ...

4 posted on 03/28/2003 10:29:38 AM PST by _Jim ( // NASA has a better safety record than NASCAR \\)
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
"Please take these tapes and show them to the world," was his silent message. "Please help us ... and hurry!" The Rev. Ken Joseph Jr. lives in Tokyo and directs Assyrianchristians.com.

Thank you for posting that story!! Apparently I missed it the other day. I wonder how long before some of this will make its way to the media?

5 posted on 03/28/2003 10:31:33 AM PST by NYer (God Bless America. Please pray for our troops!)
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To: NYer
I personally know this former human shield, Rev. Ken Joseph.

He is resident of Tokyo and enjoys significant visibility in the press and on TV from time-to-time.

He was misled on this one. In the past, he has done some good work (humanitarian earthquake aid to L.A., Kobe, and Turkey and volunteer counseling of Japanese students overseas who got into drugs or other troubles).

But the anti-Bush types must have gotten to him on this one.

At any rate, the man has some measure of decency for getting the hell out of there, and publically admitting his mistakes and passing on the TRUTH, after the fact.

6 posted on 03/28/2003 10:33:23 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (After watching days of Uncle Bunker Buster in action, Kim Jong-il is in BAD need of new underwear.)
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To: NYer
Why hasn't this been on Fox News yet? Where is the lamestream media?
7 posted on 03/28/2003 10:34:24 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (The US and British led weapon inspections in force has begun!)
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I will post haste contact the Fox News bureau in Tokyo to set up an interview with him.
8 posted on 03/28/2003 10:35:10 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (After watching days of Uncle Bunker Buster in action, Kim Jong-il is in BAD need of new underwear.)
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No news. But I'm sure EWTN will report any significant information as it develops.

I too fear that the regime will coerce them into being human shields.

9 posted on 03/28/2003 10:43:04 AM PST by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: NYer
KEEP pushing this to the media
10 posted on 03/28/2003 11:08:01 AM PST by CHICAGOFARMER (Citizen Carry)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
please let me know ASAP when/if these tapes are delivered into FoxNews' hands, ok?
11 posted on 03/28/2003 11:39:58 AM PST by demosthenes the elder (scum will never cease to be scum - why must that be explained to anyone?)
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I will post haste contact the Fox News bureau in Tokyo to set up an interview with him.

Please let me know how this turns out.! Thank you.

12 posted on 03/28/2003 12:11:02 PM PST by NYer (God Bless America. Please pray for our troops!)
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13 posted on 03/28/2003 12:13:17 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod (Deus Lo Volt!)
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To: NYer
Thanks for this post. Wish the mainstream media would for once, just once, inform their audience of these facts. It would demonstrate such an honorable stance. Can you in your wildest imaginative wanderings envision katie colic interviewing the minister who led an American human shield expedition into the pit of hell on earth?
14 posted on 03/28/2003 1:05:07 PM PST by Republic
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