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Understanding Islam And Its Radicals
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| November 11, 2001
| Ana Barrett
Posted on 03/27/2003 8:26:19 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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This has to be the most balanced article that I've read on this subject, it's old, but for some reason was never posted in FR.
The thought that the true enemy is the Islamic religion in and of itself advances bin Laden's goal.
After the attacks on 9/11, the US government was left with no alternative other than retaliation of one sort or another. We had to extract radical Muslim terrorists, one's with no particular external association with any specific country, out of countries with existing hostile governments.
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Your thoughts?
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:28:20 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: Luis Gonzalez
"The Islamic view of the world is that man is inherently good. If man is depraved by society, then any government can create a perfect society by enforcing Islamic law." Fatal Flaw Bump.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:29:37 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
To: Brad Cloven
Which part?
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:32:23 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: Luis Gonzalez
"Of course most Muslims do not support such violence as terrorism." But a majority opposed the overthrow of the Taliban. Square that circle, please.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:32:34 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
To: Luis Gonzalez
Man is not inherently good.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:33:04 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
To: Brad Cloven
The majority of the people living under the rule of the Taiban did not oppose the overthrow, the majority of the people NOT living under the rule of the Taliban opposed the overthrow.
The question is whether they opposed it on religious grounds "fight the invaders", because they supported terrorism, or whether they opposed the idea of America and other western powers conducting what they (and some of us) see as nation building by the US, and in accordance to western needs.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:38:08 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Perhaps that is the plan: Goad Muslims into hating the West so much that anything goes. Horsepuckey. They brought their hate to us.
Perhaps the plan is to make Muslims FEAR the West so much that they'll keep their terrorism at home, practicing it only on their wives and children.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:38:22 AM PST
by
jimt
To: Brad Cloven
That's funny, I see the flaw as being the other half of the sentence. I see theocracies as being more likely to abuse the rights of the people.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:40:31 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: Luis Gonzalez
I will take their unwillingness to oppose terrorists and terrorist states as support of same. Ambiguity on the question is out of the question.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:40:52 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
To: Brad Cloven
bttt
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:41:25 AM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: Luis Gonzalez
Allah is the adversary passing itself off as the true God, Adonai.
As long as there are great numbers of people 'worshiping' satan, there will be great trouble.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:41:37 AM PST
by
freedomson
(Baruch haba b'shem Adonai!)
To: jimt
"They brought their hate to us."
Did you not read the article?
That's exactly what it says, but it points to radicals, specifically bin Laden, and explains WHY they do it. Not just some vast, faceless, nameless "they".
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:42:14 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: Brad Cloven
The majority had no idea what the Taliban were really about. In fact, the majority of Moslems live in such wretchedly impoverished places it's likely they really have no idea what America is.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:43:12 AM PST
by
muawiyah
To: Brad Cloven
So then, the enemy is terrorism as a form of warfare, people who committ terrorist acts, and those governments who either sponsor, or knowingly support terrorism by their passive stance.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:46:13 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Regarding theocracies, at the moment the world may have two or three. Over the last 1000 years there really haven't been many of them. A quick examination of the situation reveals that three nations alone, none of which were theocracies, have accounted for most of the oppression and terror deaths over that period. They are Red China, USSR and the Third Reich.
Having said that, let's see what your evidence is for your statement that theocracies are more likely (than what) to abuse the people.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:46:27 AM PST
by
muawiyah
To: muawiyah
Hitting-the-hammer-on-the-head BUMP!
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:47:01 AM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
To: Luis Gonzalez
Agreed. Fatal flaws abound in the Islamic world-view. Too bad for the average Joe, since the wrath of civilization is gonna crash down around his ears.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:47:23 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
To: muawiyah
We didn't try to understand the SS we just killed them!
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:48:08 AM PST
by
Righty1
To: Luis Gonzalez
"So then, the enemy is terrorism as a form of warfare, people who committ terrorist acts, and those governments who either sponsor, or knowingly support terrorism by their passive stance." Bingo. Unfortunately, terrorism is well accepted by many Muslims. Taking Daniel Pipe's estimate that 10-15% of muslims are Islamofascist terrorist types, that means 120,000,000 want to convert or kill you while trying.
While we fight them, the other 90% become potential collateral damage. 'Twould be better if they got busy and cleansed their cultures of the fascists, for our JDAMs cannot separate them every time.
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posted on
03/27/2003 8:50:28 AM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
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