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Blair plays down the UN's role in rebuilding Iraq
The Daily Telegraph ^
| March 27, 2003
| George Jones, Ben Brogan and Toby Harnden
Posted on 03/26/2003 5:13:53 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Miss Marple; PhiKapMom
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:03:11 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(The gift is to see the truth......)
To: Mr. Silverback
Hey, Iraqi might make a good 51st STATE.
Just kidding.
We didn't do that bad a job with Japan in World War II.
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:05:12 PM PST
by
agincourt1415
(UN gets smaller, and smaller and smaller)
To: Mr. Silverback
It's interesting to note the way the Iraqi (the one shaking the soldier's hand) has his head and face bundled up. It's either against the sandstorm or, more likely, to avoid being recognized by Sadaam's thugs.
23
posted on
03/26/2003 6:06:33 PM PST
by
expatpat
To: MIgramma
I think the Frogs said they would veto again because they didn't want to look like they're endorsing the war. So, we'll end up doing it w/o the UN anyway.
To: All
25
posted on
03/26/2003 6:08:11 PM PST
by
Bob J
To: agincourt1415
First Baghdad, then on to Paris
That syphilitic bastard in North Korea will have to wait his turn.
Semper Fi
26
posted on
03/26/2003 6:10:43 PM PST
by
river rat
(War works......It brings Peace... Give war a chance to destroy Jihadists...)
To: MIgramma
27
posted on
03/26/2003 6:10:47 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(The gift is to see the truth......)
To: PhiKapMom
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:17:58 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(The gift is to see the truth......)
To: MadIvan
Monday 24 March 2003
Statement by the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, on the Iraqi conflict to the House of Commons
SNIP
At the European Council, there were of course deep divisions over the coalition action. That is well known. But it is not that all of European opinion is one way.
On the contrary, there was both understanding and support for the British position from many nations represented at the Council and near unanimous endorsement from the 10 accession countries who joined our Council on Friday afternoon.
In any event, whatever disagreements about the conflict itself, Europe came together to set out clearly its wishes and responsibilities in post-conflict Iraq.
The Council agreed the need to be active in the humanitarian field and to
ensure that the oil revenues are held for the Iraqi people by the UN and that the Oil for Food programme continues.
The Council further agreed that the UN Security Council should give the UN a strong mandate for post-conflict Iraq and make sure that the new administration is one that is representative, careful of the human rights of the Iraqi people and allows the people to live at peace inside Iraq and with its neighbours.
http://www.labour.org.uk/tbiraqcommons240303/
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:26:02 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(The gift is to see the truth......)
To: MadIvan
Uhhhmmm...am I naive, misinformed or stupid? Is Coffee saying the "food for oil" program is still relevant....even after the war? That resolution is histoire. It was all a penalty levied to make Saddam conform. Now that he's gone, WE'LL open the oil spigots wide-open and WE'LL decide how the massive revenues are used. Coffee thinks he can wave a now-outdated piece of paper to legitimize the UN's control of Iraqi assets? He must have Al Gore's lawyers on the payroll.
I think there is a role for the UN. They can ladle the soup, blow up the balloons for the kiddies, coordinate the port-a-potty cleanings, act as crossing guards and otherwise perform duties our militaries are not meant to do. This will also ensure other nations' money will be used in the liberation. As long as Blair and Bush have a veto, the UN is at our disposal. We should NOT get out of the UN just yet.
The waiter is tallying up the bill. Coffee will not allow France, Germany and Russia to sneak off to the toilet. His power is at stake. If he does, our point is made. The UN is no more.
To: TLBSHOW
You're working yourself up into a froth over nothing; note what Blair is saying - he is asking for the
endorsement of the UN for the new administration, not the UN itself to administer it. If it fails to get the endorsement, well, Blair will go along with it anyway.
And Blair knows it won't get that endorsement. The French have blocked the way. This is about silencing Labour MPs more than anything else.
I don't mind the UN playing a role in distributing food; after all, that UNICEF money has to be spent sometime.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:36:14 PM PST
by
MadIvan
To: MadIvan
DO NOT GIVE KOFI and the un ANY FUTURE ROLE IN ANYTHING, other than the smallest of relief efforts, where the U.S. and its allies control the purse strings, and only until the ultimate fate of the US out of the UN, and the UN out of the US - In fact, that should be a poster that should be carried by protesters in front of the UN - If I lived in NY, I'd be picketing the UN - Anyone in FR in the NY area up for that?
To: MadIvan
I don't want the UN to do one thing. After what they have been exposed as, anyone that would want the UN involved has a screw loose!
GET THE UN OUT OF AMERICA AND GET AMERICA OUT OF THE UN
as for British people like Tony I can't speak for them I just post what they say and do!
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:42:43 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(The gift is to see the truth......)
To: MadIvan
A politically clever move might be to avoid the UN entirely, but get the leading nations of the Coalition to run it - probably a far more international administration than the UN ever would be. Have Australian, British, American, Spanish, Polish and Danish administrators in the lead. If this is what I think it is, then this approach is a brilliant piece of strategy by Mr. Blair and Mr. Bush. Throw M. Chirac and the rest of the UN jackals a little bone to whet their appetites and quiet them down for the moment. Then, once we are able to deal from a position of greater strength (i.e. after we find the massive caches of chem/bio weapons and all the other banned miltary hardware, prominently marked with Made in France/Russia/Germany/China), slam the door shut and tell Kofi and the boys to go pound sand.
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:43:11 PM PST
by
CFC__VRWC
(Note to Tom Dashcle: If I want your opinion, I'll ask Chirac for it.)
To: PhiKapMom; Miss Marple
direct from Blair.........
http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page3347.asp At his latest press conference, Prime Minister Tony Blair said:
'...in addition to pursuing our military campaign with vigour and determination, we are also determined in the wake of military success to bring humanitarian relief to the people of Iraq. The most important humanitarian priority is to restore the operations of the Oil for Food Programme.'
The UN's Oil for Food programme provides over 60 per cent of Iraqis with food, water and medicine, added Mr Blair.
The Prime Minister announced that he would meet President Bush at Camp David, 'to discuss not just the military campaign, but also the diplomatic implications of recent events for the future', and that he would meet UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan in New York.
He stressed that 'the United Nations must be centrally involved in dealing both with the humanitarian crisis and in helping Iraq rebuild itself once Saddam has gone'.
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:47:57 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(The gift is to see the truth......)
To: TLBSHOW
I don't want the UN to do one thing. After what they have been exposed as, anyone that would want the UN involved has a screw loose! Millions of well meaning people gave money to UNICEF. You and I did, through taxation. Before they go bankrupt, they may as well drop some of that cash on Iraq.
as for British people like Tony I can't speak for them I just post what they say and do!
Not really. You try and put things in the most negative way possible - I respect your honesty, but you're not subtle and that deficiency means you're missing the real story.
Regards, Ivan
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:48:04 PM PST
by
MadIvan
To: CFC__VRWC
see 35.... that is the real truth from blairs mouth
the UN must be involved, did you know Clinton did a story for his site a few days before the war?
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:50:09 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(The gift is to see the truth......)
To: MadIvan
probably a far more international administration than the UN ever would be Not only that, but much, much more functional as well.
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:52:38 PM PST
by
livius
To: MadIvan
Get the spin right I know you are above spinning falsehoods on this matter.... now again from Blairs own mouth about the UN.......
QUESTION:
I wonder if I could ask you a bit about the politics of all this, because you have told us you want to secure not just the UN resolution on Oil for Food, which I think everyone is agreed will go through, but a UN resolution on the political structure of Iraq after any conflict.
Now the French, the Germans, the Russians have all said that they oppose that plan as you have suggested, that they want a UN mandate, they don't just want UN involvement, and we also of course have a situation in northern Iraq and the position of the Kurds. So how are you going to build a political framework? And secondly can you guarantee that the people in northern Iraq will have the same degree of autonomy that they currently enjoy in any post-war settlement?
PRIME MINISTER:
Just on the latter point, obviously one of the extraordinary things that has happened in Iraq over the past few years, only as a result of the British and American pilots policing the No Fly Zone, is that the autonomy people have gained in northern Iraq has allowed them to live a far better life. For example the child mortality rates I was explaining to you, I specifically said were in the centre and south of Iraq, because in the north of Iraq child mortality has been falling, and has been falling because they have got greater freedom from Saddam. So without going into the details of what any post-Saddam Iraq might look like at the present time, we would obviously not want to give up the considerable gains that people in the north have made.
Secondly in relation to the UN, there are two issues here. The first is in respect of humanitarian assistance we need a resolution through on that and I am confident that we should be able to secure that.
There is going to be a debate about the UN resolution that then governs the post-Saddam civil administration in Iraq. We are quite clear that any such administration has to be endorsed by the United Nations, it is important, and that is exactly what we said at the summit in the Azores. Now the details of that we will discuss with allies within the UN and with others.
There may be certain diplomatic difficulties but I think in the end people will come together and realise that it is important that any post-Saddam Iraqi government has the broadest possible representation, is respectful of human rights, is careful to preserve the territorial integrity of Iraq, and the important thing after all the diplomatic divisions that there have been is that the international community comes back together, and I hope that it will.
http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page3347.asp
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posted on
03/26/2003 6:58:54 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(The gift is to see the truth......)
To: TLBSHOW
CUT and Paste finger might need strength during war Todd, give it rest for long battles ahead.
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