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BASRA: ANTI-SADDAM RIOTS (not witnessed by journalist but told about it by British intel)
sky.com ^ | 18:15 UK, Tuesday March 25, 2003 | skynews

Posted on 03/25/2003 10:41:08 AM PST by Destro

BASRA: ANTI-SADDAM RIOTS

Rioting is taking place in Basra by locals opposed to Saddam Hussein, reports say.

Iraqi troops are reported to be firing on the rioters with mortars in an attempt to crush the uprising.

British forces are firing back at the Iraqi positions with heavy artillery, reports say.

They said they have dropped a bomb on the ruling Ba'ath Party HQ. Two large explosions have been heard in the city centre.

Reporter Richard Gaisford, who is with troops just west of Basra, said British intelligence officers there told him about the civil uprising.

He said the officers said intelligence from the city suggested that local people had indicated they would welcome the Allied forces but were in fear of Saddam loyalists.

"Now it seems they have had the courage to stand up to Saddam Hussein and his regime and they will be supported by British forces," Gaisford said.

Gaisford said British troops were preparing to enter the city centre when dawn breaks in Iraq.

Sky News Foreign Editor Tim Marshall said that if (key word IF) the reports were true, it would be a "crucial moment" in the Iraq war.

He said it could trigger more uprisings across parts of Iraq.

Marshall said the majority of the people around Basra were Shi'ite Muslims, who had been oppressed by Saddam's regime.

Saddam's ruling Ba'ath Party are predominantly made up of Sunni Muslims.

Earlier, British military sources said about 20 of Saddam Hussein's henchmen were killed and a key party official captured in a night-time raid by British forces near Basra.

Soldiers from the 7th Armoured Brigade - the Desert Rats - raided a regional Ba'ath Party headquarters in Al Zubayr, near Basra, where there has been fierce resistance from Iraqi troops, the source said.

They moved in on the complex in the early hours with the aim of capturing the high-ranking party figure.

He was guarded by members of Saddam's Special Security Organisation and fanatical Fedayeen fighters loyal to the Iraqi president, the source at the Coalition Command HQ in Qatar said.

The Desert Rats surrounded the building with Challenger 2 tanks before the lightning raid.

As the British soldiers swooped, a fierce gunfight broke out and dozens of Iraqis were hit. There were no British casualties.

The senior party figure, thought to be responsible for helping organise resistance in the Al Zubayr and Basra area, was successfully snatched and taken prisoner.

A military source said the Ba'ath Party officials in Al Zubayr were terrorising the local population.

British commanders also want to separate the political and military leaders of Saddam's regime.

Last Updated: 18:15 UK, Tuesday March 25, 2003


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: basra; liberators; shameongannett; thanksfriendblair; thankyouamerica
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This may be agit-prop on the part of the Brits. The reported uprising ws not witnesed by the journalist and the editor himself has no confirmation and the news source is from an intel officer who added in the standard agit-prop line these days on how the Shi'ites are waiting to welcome us with open arms--just as people were questioning what was happening in Basra and why no uprisings have taken place so far.

It may also be the intel's humanitarian cover to excuse British shelling of Basra before a push into the city. Something they have to do but can't justifiy to the humanitarian types any other way-the city has to be shelled before infantry goe i and what better cover for the shelling then to say it is in an attempt to help the shi'ia who are uprising (IF so) - the Brits can't bee seen to be any different than the Serbs you know :)

PS: I hope this story is true, but it might be standard skynews bluster.

PPS: The BBC is reporting it because Skynews reported it--no independent confirmation (journalists seeing it with their own eyes) as of yet.

1 posted on 03/25/2003 10:41:08 AM PST by Destro
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To: Stavka2
FREE KURDISTAN!!!
2 posted on 03/25/2003 10:41:44 AM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Being reported on CNN too.
3 posted on 03/25/2003 10:43:04 AM PST by RoughDobermann
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To: RoughDobermann
I heard it.
4 posted on 03/25/2003 10:44:48 AM PST by MEG33
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To: CrimeOf73; mabelkitty; harpseal; Stentor; sinkspur; ladtx; Travis McGee; RoughDobermann
I think this story may be a cover so the Brits can shell the city so as to go in and liberate it. All the networks are reporting it citing this news source.

Anything to get us into Basra! The sooner the better. Those people need food and water bad.

5 posted on 03/25/2003 10:46:36 AM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Bump.
6 posted on 03/25/2003 10:50:08 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Destro
Basra is not too close to the Kurds ... save that warcry for the north of Iraq where we should have some similar uprisings, we hope.
7 posted on 03/25/2003 10:52:04 AM PST by AgThorn (Continue to pray for our Troops!!)
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To: AgThorn
There is no need for an uprising in the north--The Kurds already control it. If the Turks would let us we could have the Kurds on the outskirts of Baghdad by now.
8 posted on 03/25/2003 10:54:23 AM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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Why are so many countries hostile to the Kurds? I've been trying to figure this out but can't seem to find anything. I know the Turks hate them, the Iraqis hate them, and the Russians and Iranians don't much care for them.
10 posted on 03/25/2003 11:05:05 AM PST by mbynack
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To: Destro
Well, it is also quite likely that the Shi'ites finally see their opening where they can go after the Baathist bully boys and settle some old scores. Given that in the first Gulf war they were encouraged to rise up then given over to saddam's tender mercies I would expect a marked hesitation before such actions became common. Calling it an excuse is not necessarily the best way of decribing it.

11 posted on 03/25/2003 11:12:31 AM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: mbynack
Same reason much of Europe did not like Poles. The Kurds are an ethnic group spread across three, four, or five nations in SW Asia. Like Poland before WWI when it was divided between Russia, Germany, and Austria the Kurds want a nation, but having it would take territory away from Turkey, Iraq, Iran,Syria, and probably some of the Caucasus republics.
12 posted on 03/25/2003 11:18:00 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Destro
Jolly good show 'ol boys. Pip, pip and all that. :)
13 posted on 03/25/2003 11:19:52 AM PST by anymouse
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To: Destro
This report originated with Sky News, which in my observation has had the most wildly unreliable information since the outset of this conflict. Indeed, I've reached the point where I routinely ignore anything I see connected with Sky News unless it's directly corroborated by another source.
14 posted on 03/25/2003 11:23:15 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: harpseal
I am saying no uprsining is taking place and British intel is yanking our chain for their own purposes as described above..again speculation only of course.
15 posted on 03/25/2003 11:26:30 AM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro

Anti-Saddam Revolt Reported in Basra

Tuesday, March 25, 2003

In what appears to be a critical moment for coalition forces, the Shiite majority in Basra has started a popular uprising against Saddam Hussein's forces, a Sky News correspondent and a United Kingdom pool correspondent reported Tuesday.

Iraqi Fedayeen are reportedly firing at the Shiite protesters, who have the support of British troops in the area. Coalition forces, in turn, are reportedly firing missiles at the pro-Saddam forces.

"We've had reports we can't substantiate as of yet of an uprising in Basra. We are closely monitoring the situation," said U.S. Marine Maj. David C. Andersen.

A British spokesman said a top Baath Party official has been captured outside the southern Iraqi city.

Coalition forces want the people of Basra to attack soldiers loyal to Saddam, and British troops backed by tanks and armored vehicles are massing on the outskirts of Basra and planning to enter the city.

"We'll help them every which way we can," British spokesman Chris Vernon told a news conference in Kuwait. "We are helping them when we took out probably the most senior Baath party guy in Basra this morning. That will have sent a shock wave through them."

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said Saddam's supporters are terrorizing his people in Basra, but he skirted a question as to whether an uprising was in fact occurring.

"They now have people in there that are shooting them if they try to desert, try to surrender, try to escape," he said at a news briefing. "These are Saddam Hussein's people in there, shooting them if they leave the city."

Anyone staging uprising has "a lot of courage," Rumsfeld said.

Meanwhile, sandstorms slowed coalition forces to a crawl and thwarted air missions as U.S.-led forces edged within 50 miles of Baghdad.

"It's a little bit ugly out there today," with wind, sandstorms and rain, Air Force Major Gen. Victor E. Renuart Jr. said in a press briefing at U.S. Central Command in Qatar. "However, that hasn't stopped us."

The invasion of Baghdad, he said, is still on track.

President Bush, speaking to military personnel at the Pentagon, said: "We cannot know the duration of this war, yet we know its outcome. We will prevail."

"The Iraq regime will be disarmed. The Iraq regime will be ended. The Iraq people will be free and our world will be more secure and peaceful," Bush said.

Rumsfeld said coalition forces are performing "superbly" and that Iraqi resistance "has not affected coalition progress."

"The Iraqi regime is losing control of more of the country," Rumsfeld said during a news briefing at the Pentagon. The coalition "will not stop until that regime is driven from power … their fate is certain. All that's unclear is whether it will take days or weeks."

"Iraqi authorities know their days are numbered."

Renuart said about 1,400 air sorties were expected to focus on Republican Guard units blocking the path to Baghdad on Tuesday. He added that coalition troops destroyed six GPS jammers -- used to throw U.S. aircraft and bombs off course electronically -- over the past two nights.

U.S. officials say Russian companies helped supply Iraq with these jammers.

Coalition paratroopers have seized an Iraqi desert air strip, and Iraqi troops continue to place mines in northern Iraq.

The overall mission of Navy air power was changing to focus more on support for U.S. ground troops advancing on Baghdad, said Capt. Patrick Driscoll aboard the USS Kitty Hawk.

Combat missions from two aircraft carriers were called back because of bad weather, and at least a dozen planes returned without reaching Iraq. Two Army divisions were virtually stalled in a sandstorm.

Thousands of Marines took back roads toward Baghdad to avoid civilians, but traveled only about 20 miles in five hours.

Still, the Army's 3rd Infantry Division advanced to within 50 miles of Baghdad early Tuesday and pounded military installations.

U.S. air power, helicopters and artillery to "beat down those Republican Guard positions" before ground troops move ahead in the battle for Baghdad, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff said.

"We've never said it's going to be quick, we've never said it's going to be easy, you've never heard those words come out of officials here at the Pentagon," Air Force Gen. Richard Myers said on ABC's "Good Morning America" Tuesday. "War is tough and it's going to be a tough fight. But it's a worthy fight."

But there is growing worry at the Pentagon that Iraqi Republican Guard units will start using chemical weapons as coalition land forces approach Baghdad.

U.S. officials cited intelligence reports that Iraqi units may have been ordered to unleash chemical weapons, but they cautioned that reports of specific geographic tripwires, or "red lines" drawn up by Iraqi leadership, are premature.

The Iraqi Republican Guard controls the bulk of Iraq's chemical weaponry, most of which can be fired from artillery guns or short-range rocket launchers.

"I have no doubt that he would do such a thing," Secretary of State Colin Powell told Fox News on Monday. "We will follow this matter carefully."

Central Command said Tuesday that a U.S. F-16 fighter engaged a U.S. Patriot missile battery during combat air operations approximately 30 miles south of An-Najaf in Iraq on Monday. No soldiers were injured or killed. The incident is under review.

People in Baghdad dug more and bigger defensive trenches around the city, including the courtyard of the Iraq museum, home to priceless antiquities. Many more stores were open for business, and people were milling about.

About 500 Iraqi fighters have been killed in the last two days by the 3rd Infantry Division.

Command Sgt. Maj. Kenneth Preston of V Corps said Tuesday that coalition forces ran into "a lot" of Iraqi tanks and anti-aircraft weaponry and "thousands and thousands" of weapons around the city of Najaf.

"This could have been very ugly, but they're not very motivated," Preston said of the Iraqi army recruits. "I think a lot of them wanted to go home."

Allied ground troops crossed over the Euphrates River early Tuesday, advancing north past Nasiriyah after fierce resistance there.

A pattern of deadly ambushes and ruse attacks by Iraqi militiamen in civilian clothes prevented coalition forces from securing the southern cities of Basra and Nasiriyah. Sporadic fighting thwarted efforts to extinguish burning oil fields.

British Air Marshal Brian Burridge said a Baath party headquarters in Az Zubayr was targeted late Monday by the First Battalion Black Watch, whose members are mostly from Scotland. At least one Baath party official was captured and 20 were killed. Two British soldiers were killed.

The Pentagon confirmed that 12 American GIs had been killed so far, and seven were being held as prisoners of war.

"I think the deaths of Americans gives us more incentive to fight," said Lance Cpl. Chad Borgmann, 23, of Sidney, Neb., with the 15th Marine Expeditionary Force. "Freeing Iraq is all fine and dandy ... but this gives us a personal motivation to fight."

Fox News' Kelly Wright, David Lee Miller and Liza Porteus and The Associated Press contributed to this report

16 posted on 03/25/2003 11:38:54 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Destro
Bump as this is BREAKING NEWS.
17 posted on 03/25/2003 11:40:01 AM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Destro
Hopeful bump!
18 posted on 03/25/2003 11:42:57 AM PST by k2blader (If one good thing can be said about the UN, it is that it taught me how to spell “irrelevant.”)
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To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
The FOX News article adds nothing to the information already out there: which is that an uprising has been reported as taking place in Basra. Now, if any journalists in the area (aside from Sky News) actually confirm a revolt in Basra, that will add substance to the report...
19 posted on 03/25/2003 11:44:03 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv
I tried to make that point on another thread and was attacked for it. The only news that is real news is news that meets some peoples expectations.
20 posted on 03/25/2003 11:47:46 AM PST by Destro (Fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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