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***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 6 - LIVE THREAD***
Multiple ^ | 25 March 2003 | Various

Posted on 03/24/2003 8:59:27 PM PST by An.American.Expatriate

Good Morning.

This is the Daily Thread of Operation Iraqi Freedom - LIVE THREAD.

It is designed for general conversation about the events of the day. In depth discussion of events should be left to individual threads - but links to the threads or other articles is highly encouraged. This allows us to stay abreast of the situation in general, while also providing a means of obtaining specific information.

Please have mercy on us dial up limited FReepers! Limit the big graphics, post links instead. A breif description of what the graphic is would help:

Special thanks to null and void for keeping these running over the weekend and Monday, to all of you for keeping these threads alive, the AdminMods for their tolerance, mhking for the video links, and, of course, Belly Girl...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bellygirl; iraq; iraqifreedom; live; war
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To: Quilla
I think it's the same guy who asked the question yesterday.
1,761 posted on 03/25/2003 6:51:16 AM PST by Carolina
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To: slimer
Europe's problems are not just a naked grab of power. Europe has made a huge mistake... They believed the lie that Islam was a "religion of peace" and in the 1970's-1980's, threw open their borders to huge Muslim immigration.

Those Muslims have never assimiliated... They are growing, they are overwhelming the European population, and they are radicalized...

France, Germany, Belguim, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden have a real problem. They have allowed the enemy into the lands... and the enemy is winning. Read some of the articles from these countries newspapers regarding this trend.

They realize that sooner or later, the US, because we are serious about this, will demand that these governments do something about the radicals within their borders. They don't want confrontation... they have been desperately trying to appease their Muslim population.

Do they want to slow down our war... sure... because they don't want it to come to their shores... But it will... not because Europe can stop us... but because Europe can't control the Muslims within their borders...

When those Muslims explode (and they will)... they will need us, and we will need to aid them. An endangered Europe is an endangered USA...

1,762 posted on 03/25/2003 6:51:16 AM PST by carton253 (God Bless President Bush, the USA, and the troops who are moving to protect freedom)
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To: Quilla
What was that question that caused the laughter?
1,763 posted on 03/25/2003 6:51:38 AM PST by gortklattu
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To: gortklattu
Aussie reporter.
1,764 posted on 03/25/2003 6:52:12 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: cyncooper; All
Good morning all.

I could never be thais nice to these 'journalists'.
1,765 posted on 03/25/2003 6:52:23 AM PST by Anomaly in Illinois ((never forget !))
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To: Carolina
Question about plan if and when to take out Iraqi media and what about Ministry of Defense building still standing.

(A good question, IMO)

Answer is we cannot discuss planned targets.

Aussie asks if he is impressed with their soldiers. Good natured laughter.

Answer, yes, we have received no second teams from our coalition nations, but first teams. Lauding the Australians and others, now pointing to particular aid they have provided.

1,766 posted on 03/25/2003 6:52:49 AM PST by cyncooper ("Some of the Iraqis... 'told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start.'")
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To: Quilla
Q: Have you been impressed by their capability (Referring to ???)

Renuart: Heh, heh, heh (laughter). Enumerating different allied contributions.

1,767 posted on 03/25/2003 6:52:50 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Petronski
There was a worse one "over there" last night.
One of them actually stated that he was hoping we had huge casualties, over 12,000, to "teach a lesson."

Unbelievable.
1,768 posted on 03/25/2003 6:53:24 AM PST by EllaMinnow (``No Saddam Hussein!'' one young man in headscarf told Gurfein. ``Bush!'')
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To: Quilla
Meanwhile, those Iraqi "farmers" are not having a lot of success stopping our drive...

National Post - Iraqi 'farmers' ambush column and are defeated

1,769 posted on 03/25/2003 6:53:45 AM PST by steveegg (The French have removed 1 leg from the UN; it is now LN (League of Nations).)
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To: cyncooper
Question about WMDs

Renuart: You ask this everyday. Do you ask this everyday.

1,770 posted on 03/25/2003 6:53:47 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Lauratealeaf
Both Teenie Tommy and Bella Pelosi have been quieted down but Hillary is playing her money war drum so she can attempt to upset the tax cuts.

In general though, she's caught up in a dilemma. Bet she wishes she didn't sit on the prized "Armed Services Commitee". Ted, the swimmer, Kennedy has had a seat on that committee and she should have left it at that. Mistake #1423.

1,771 posted on 03/25/2003 6:54:01 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!)
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To: Carolina
Francis Tusa, I love this guy, he's great.
1,772 posted on 03/25/2003 6:54:45 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: Carolina
I just got my Sky Feed, too...broadband. Wonder where everyone is today?
1,773 posted on 03/25/2003 6:54:58 AM PST by Timeout (...an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm--GWB inaugural address)
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To: All
***New explosions on the outskirts of Baghdad***
1,774 posted on 03/25/2003 6:55:20 AM PST by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora
Francis Tusa, I love this guy, he's great.

Yeah, and Will Collins in the evenings is great, too.

1,775 posted on 03/25/2003 6:55:43 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Sacajaweau
you'd think they would be hopping up and down screaming "North Korea!, Iran!, HeathCare!, TaxCutsForTheRich(tm)!
1,776 posted on 03/25/2003 6:55:50 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: Timeout
I just got on Sky feed too!!! Right on. I was getting sick of City pulse or BBC.
1,777 posted on 03/25/2003 6:55:57 AM PST by hawkaw
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To: All
SkyTV reporting new explosions on outskirts of Bagdhad. Can't see anything on the feed.
1,778 posted on 03/25/2003 6:56:05 AM PST by mitchbert (Facts are Stubborn Things)
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To: Carolina
Wow.

Hong Kong reporters asks a question which elicits this response:

Dark days are coming for the Dark Side.

1,779 posted on 03/25/2003 6:56:12 AM PST by cyncooper ("Some of the Iraqis... 'told me they would commit suicide if American bombing didn't start.'")
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To: Lauratealeaf
I read about retired General Barry McCaffrey stating that we could lose up to 3000 troops in Baghdad. Suffice it to say, that if your mother was dying of cancer, he would comment, "she has two weeks and one half days, better buy the coffin." He is a total, a-hole. I know many people who served under his command and he is despised by all.

I'm sure McCaffrey's remarks are disturbing to many, but his is current role is not that of cheerleader. His job as a military analyst is to offer his assessment of our military operations and their potential risks. It is now his opinion that we could suffer up to 3,000 casualities. That is not the kind of news any of us want to hear but I'm glad he is not sugarcoating things here. Unfortunately, I don't think that McCaffrey estimate is unrealistic at all, especially if Iraqi's are able to use chemical weapons effectively and/or we are drawn into large scale battles in urban terrain. At this point I think McCaffrey is just calling it like he sees it. He's not the only military analyst who seems to have become more pessimistic in the last few either IMO. His colleague on MSNBC, former Marine General Bernard Trainer has also been critical of certain aspects of the war plan and also seems to think that we could be in for a tough fight in Baghdad.

McCaffrey's demeanor when he served as a general officer is irrelevant. McCaffrey's experience in combat is relevant and he is very well qualified in that regard. He served in combat as an infantry officer in both Vietnam and GWI. Among other things, he has three purple hearts. The guy knows what combat is about. Obviously, other military analsyts have come to different conclusions about potential casaulities for the rest of this war, some more optomistic than McCaffrey, some less. Time will tell who is right, but I don't think McCaffrey's views should be dismissed.

1,780 posted on 03/25/2003 6:56:15 AM PST by Norman Arbuthnot
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