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Montclair New Jersey Rally, the details...

Posted on 03/24/2003 7:12:59 PM PST by MarkMcM

Hi All,

This Wednesday (3-26), a Patriot Rally will be held at Montclaire State University starting at noon in the Student Center Quad. Direction from various NY/NJ metro points can be found at the MSU site:

http://www.montclair.edu/welcome/directions.html

Please bring family & friends!!


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: libertyweekend; march26rallies; montclair; montclairstate; msu; newjersey; nj; rallyforamerica
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1 posted on 03/24/2003 7:12:59 PM PST by MarkMcM
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To: MarkMcM
Time? Who is sponsoring it? What group is sponsoring it?
2 posted on 03/24/2003 7:22:29 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: MarkMcM
Please post to the NJ and NY locale pages.

Good luck and eagles up!
3 posted on 03/24/2003 8:11:17 PM PST by anymouse
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To: MarkMcM; Coleus
Good Evening All-

To prevent confusion, the name of the institution in question is Montclair State University.

MarkMcM, have you spoken directly with the organizers to obtain detailed information about the rally? Per the suggestion from Coleus, have they provided a link? My concern is that this could very easily be a pro-Saddam event given the political persuasion of the surrounding towns.

Please advise. Thanks.

~ Blue Jays ~

4 posted on 03/24/2003 8:20:22 PM PST by Blue Jays
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To: Blue Jays
Do you live in NJ?
5 posted on 03/24/2003 8:23:45 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: MarkMcM
I wonder, Mark just signed on 3-24-03. Montclair, quite a liberal institution, NJ on the whole went demo. in the last election I would be suspect,make a careful choice.
6 posted on 03/24/2003 8:28:31 PM PST by ejo
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To: MarkMcM
Ooh, Montclair, enemy country. Stay safe, guys!
7 posted on 03/24/2003 8:29:40 PM PST by aristeides
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To: MarkMcM
From the MSU activity calendar

March 26
Target Fitness Challenge
3:15 a.m.
SBUS/Accounting Society Meeting
1 p.m. - 2 p.m.
Music: student recital-percussion
6 p.m. - 9:30 p.m.
Hillel Movie: "Kissing Jessica Stein"
7 p.m. - 9 p.m.
Lunatic Fringe Improve Group
7 p.m.
Caribso: Ladies Night Auction


I happen to know the one of the one line actors in Kissing Jamie Stein, It's not a bad movie, but there's no mention of any sort of Rally on campus.... I was up there a few weeks ago, Muslim Students Assc. (MSA), pro-Palenstinian, and anti-war demonstration posters were all over the campus, so, good luck to anyone who shows up there...
8 posted on 03/24/2003 9:03:09 PM PST by JerseyHighlander (®(You can't spell Eunuch without U.N.))
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To: Blue Jays
the name of the institution in question is Montclair State University>>>>

Yes I know thank you. I just ate there on Saturday and heard nothing about this event and know how much the college hates republicans. Did you go to Montclair State?

I am leery since he signed up "today" and knew how to post and posted this topic twice and is no where to be found. I just don't want to get ambushed.

http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkzJmZnYmVsN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2MzU3NzMw
9 posted on 03/24/2003 9:22:19 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: Coleus
Believe me, I'm no plant. I originally saw the information about the rally on *this* web site. I confirmed it by calling the Montclair University campus police. Dont take my word for it, call them yourself.
10 posted on 03/25/2003 4:05:23 AM PST by MarkMcM
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To: aristeides
This is the town where a principal of a school recently suspended a boy for a week for being in possession of a toy gun.

The very thought of real guns will probably make this guy wet his pants.

Why boys hate school:

PERSPECTIVE
ADVERSE LEARNING ENVIRONMENT (29)
by JANN FLURY
Appearing Exclusively every Monday

March 24, 2003

It is a fact that men and women, by nature, think differently, and that they often have different interests, sentiments, and priorities. Therefore, it follows that boys and girls also think differently. This fact becomes obvious at school, and it creates unnecessary problems, mostly, because these intrinsic differences in the psyche between the sexes aren't accepted or taken into consideration by the "progressive" educators, bent on creating an egalitarian society of underlings.

Well disciplined children who know their place and are treated fairly are happy students. They contribute to the morale and well-being of the school and form part of the safe learning environment. Misunderstood or treated unfairly, without due consideration or appropriate interpretation of rules of conduct, students become resentful, uncooperative, and jeopardize the safe learning environment. In many schools today the prevalence of unruliness and defiance borders on anarchy, and instances have been reported where teachers actually fear for their own safety.

It is noteworthy that, today, boys have more discipline problems at school than girls. They have more problems academically; they do most of the bullying and fighting; and boys rebel against the politically-correct doctrine promoted by modern schools and drop-out more than girls. Have our schools become an adverse environment for boys through the promotion of rules of conduct that are incompatible with the nature of the developing male psyche? If so, why and how?

The high-tech brain wizards of the psychiatric world put their own spin on the problem. They claim that by looking through their own magic looking-glass, they can actually SEE how the human brain and thought processes work. They claim that men and women use the brain differently to solve any given problem. To us mortals, it is common knowledge that boys behave differently from girls because they think differently, and they think differently because their natural roles in life are meant to be different: "Vive la difference!" These differences are observable from early childhood and become modified as the character develops into adulthood.

Girls instinctively exhibit innate, typically feminine traits from early childhood. Girls are more demure, precocious, circumspect, and adaptable than boys. They like to learn new things and are interested mostly in art related, cerebral, non-physical activities. They are gregarious, like to socialize and play role-games with their peers.

Boys, by nature, are typically physical, boisterous and competitive. They like to lead more than follow and prefer physical or competitive games. They tend to be egocentric and readily resort to physical action when angered or threatened. Boys tend to be critical and idealistic, while girls are more altruistic and realistic.

Today, an overwhelming majority of grade-school teachers are women. Schools no longer have adequate male role models for the boys, and churlish boy-type behaviour is no longer well understood or tolerated. It is now seen as symptomatic of a violent personality or labeled as a learning disability in need of counseling or even psychiatric help. Male values like courage and competitiveness are seen as aggressive qualities that must be subdued and replaced with the more benign and politically acceptable female traits of compassion, tolerance and understanding. Consequently boys find themselves in a hostile, adverse school environment, unable to keep up with the girls in study and the woman teacher's behavioural expectations.

These attempts of behaviour modifications have come at a price. Over recent years, there has been an appalling deterioration in school discipline, accompanied by increased violence, and school dropouts. Through the ages, the natural character differences between men and women have been celebrated, and schools encouraged the development of these differences. Today, however, educators are striving to produce a gender-neutral set of values in students that is biased in favour of the female psyche, and the innate differences are being suppressed or crippled starting right in Kindergarten.

Modern educators tore down the old style school with all its traditions and transformed public education into what they tell us is a kinder, gentler institution. They set out to make school fun and exciting; they liberalized school by relaxing discipline and dress codes; they no longer teach manners or social etiquette and ignore traditional codes of conduct; they encourage students to explore and do their own thing. They promise to cater to the needs of every individual student and promote a nonjudgmental attitude by stating that there is no right or wrong. Progressive educators promote group learning in a modern school that is devoid of values and standards. They claim all students learn at their own pace and cannot be held to a timetable or specific goals of achievement.

To the modern educator the object of public school is to produce a student who is tolerant, nonjudgmental and can work cooperatively with a wide range of people in a global community. The emphasis is on political correctness, not academic achievement. Students must learn to "celebrate diversity," without rancor or prejudice. Many restless boy students cannot identify with such nebulous values, and fail to see any purpose in attending school.

Paradoxically, these liberalized institutions have found it necessary to make a whole new set of extensive rules to enforce their edict for a politically-correct environment. They even have a policy of "zero tolerance" against intolerance and against numerous fabricated petty offences that reflect typically boyish behaviour. Any physical horsing around, skylarking, pushing or shoving is strictly forbidden and is often interpreted as violent behaviour or assault. Even teasing is now a punishable offence and classified as a form of bullying.

It seems that the rules in our public schools today are made by cadre of modern educators largely composed of women unsympathetic to boyish behaviour. Boy behaviour is no longer tolerated. Natural male development is suppressed, crippled, or perverted. It's okay to be or act like a homosexual, but it's not okay to act like a normal boy.

It's bad enough that we have such lopsided rules for behaviour in public schools, but what is worse--even criminal--is how educators have chosen to enforce these lopsided rules. Boys must behave like girls or face psychological scrutiny or suspension if they don't comply with the "zero-tolerance" policy against perceived discrimination, prejudice or violence. Many schools hand out suspensions for minor physical altercations, expulsion for repeat or more serious offences. And, of course, for an in-house remedy we have the ubiquitous school psychologist who is usually all too willing to prescribe harmful mind-altering drugs like Ritalin to make boys more docile and obedient.

All these extreme measures for minor infractions do nothing to alleviate the underlying problem: they exacerbate it. It is like putting a dirty bandage on a festering wound. The developing character of a boy needs to be gently, firmly guided--sublimated--not stifled, crippled, or perverted, by politically-correct poppycock.

The intent to create a kinder, gentler society, shaped according to feminine logic, has neglected the developmental needs of boys. The nonsensical, politically-correct rules for behaviour have spawned an environment of rebellious resentment and loathing: a seething powder-keg ready to explode.

Soon we may reach a point with the school discipline problem where neither security guards, school psychologists, psychiatrists nor "All the Kings Horses and all the King's Men will be able to put Humpty-Dumpty together again."

JANN FLURY
905-571-4811

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11 posted on 03/25/2003 6:45:57 AM PST by ladylib
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To: MarkMcM
Well, I will admit that some of you folks got me to thinking, so I called MSUs Student Activities Department and talked with Kathleen Costello, who deals with scheduled events. She informed me that this rally is billed as a "Support the Troops, Liberate Iraq" gathering. When I asked her who is coordinating the event, she would only say that it was one of the political science professors. The campus police also confirmed that it is scheduled as a "Support the Troops, Liberate Iraq" rally. I cant say for sure its not a bushwhack. The number at the student activities dept is 973 655 4000, ask for student activities and they will put you through to Kathleen Costello.
12 posted on 03/25/2003 9:37:39 AM PST by MarkMcM
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To: MarkMcM; lindasobers
Ok, thanks for all your help and notifying us, it's greatly appreciated, you have freep mail, go to the top of the page and click on "my comments" and then "my mail". We just like to be cautious.
and Thank you to you too, Linda.

13 posted on 03/25/2003 11:20:46 AM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: MarkMcM; Blue Jays; JerseyHighlander; PaulNYC; tsomer; Mixer; MattinNJ; OceanKing; TomT in NJ; ...
Wednesday, March 26, 12 Noon - 2 PM

Ok, it's official, Campus Police, Dean of Students, Student Activities and the college Republicans were all called and confirmed the rally, thrown together at the last minute by a professor, believe it or not.

It will be from 12 Noon - 2 PM at the student center. You can park at the Floyd Hall Arena or on the parking deck, the midtown direct from Manhattan goes right to MSU at the Normal Ave. Station.

http://www.montclair.edu/welcome/directions.html

Can anybody go during the day?
14 posted on 03/25/2003 11:31:45 AM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: ladylib; aristeides; Bob J; Hobsonphile; Blue Jays
FR Threads on Montclair, NJ

Fake gun lands costumed 6th grader five-day suspension, Montclair, NJ

15 posted on 03/25/2003 11:41:55 AM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: Yehuda
Far from Rutgers about 15 miles from Lincoln Tunnel. Montclair State is about 5 miles past Giant's Stadium on Route 3 at the junction with Rt. 46. It borders three towns: Clifton, Montclair and Little Falls.

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?addtohistory=&country=US&address=Normal+ave+and+Valley+Road&city=montclair&state=nj&zipcode=&historyid=&submit.x=56&submit.y=9
18 posted on 03/25/2003 1:53:46 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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To: Coleus
Can anybody go during the day?

I can't, but here's a bttt

thanks for the ping
19 posted on 03/25/2003 4:02:36 PM PST by firewalk
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To: Gardenwolf; TruthShallSetYouFree
ping
20 posted on 03/25/2003 4:32:26 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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