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(Informative!) Soldier suspected of deadly grenade attack had California ties
RENO ^ | 3/23/2003 11:30 pm | Associated Press

Posted on 03/24/2003 5:44:49 AM PST by dennisw

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:36:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The soldier being held in a deadly grenade attack on a 101st Airborne Division command center in Kuwait spent much of his youth in California and was described by family and friends Sunday as a brilliant student and mild-mannered practicing Muslim.


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To: aristeides
"Allow me to correct your Latin: 'Ex Uno Plura (From One, Many).'"

Sorry pal, but there is no such Latin word as "uno." That is Spanish, but of course its root is Latin.
61 posted on 03/24/2003 9:33:56 AM PST by ought-six
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To: Grampa Dave
I'll post this again........

Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and loyal soldier or citizen?


Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.

Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran.

Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically, no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam--intolerance (Quran, 2:256)

Intellectually, no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles, and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically, no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression.

Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually, no. Because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.


Stay Safe Dave !

62 posted on 03/24/2003 9:34:29 AM PST by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Squantos
Thanks, and please keep reposting it!
63 posted on 03/24/2003 9:35:52 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: lewislynn
What the f#&k does "had California ties" mean or have to do with anything?

LOL! My thoughts......Jezzzz

64 posted on 03/24/2003 9:39:09 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: ought-six
Sorry pal, but there is no such Latin word as "uno." That is Spanish, but of course its root is Latin.

I just remembered!

Uno is the ablative case of unus -a -um. That would make it the object of the preposition "E".

65 posted on 03/24/2003 9:42:06 AM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Squantos
You appear to have considerable knowledge of Islam. I have been curious about the Islamic version of the End Times. Christians have Revelation and other prophecy: can you explain what the Koran says?
66 posted on 03/24/2003 9:44:13 AM PST by myprecious
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To: Tijeras_Slim
There are hints about this guy...but the army has no choice these days...they have to accept what they can get. I suspect that this guy had a long-standing mental problem and the army should have figured that out after basic training. I also have some thoughts that he uses some type of drugs...my guess would be Ectesy. I wonder if they had him do a urine test after this episode. I recall a episode here in Germany about two years ago where some guy went nuts while visiting a German couples apartment and eventually killed one person and wounded two others. There was no logic or apparent guess that he was dangerous either. He never could explain why he did it and the Germans who survived really offered very little about what the four were doing that night. This US Army guy in Germany got like 20 years in prison for his act.

I doubt that we will ever know the entire story....this dude will be failing his mental exam and spend the rest of his life in a institute probably.
67 posted on 03/24/2003 10:03:01 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: dennisw
"You guys are coming into our countries and you're going to rape our women"

Odd statement. It seems to me that rape, especially gang rape, is a prevalent part of islamic culture. But then what do you expect when your "prophet" takes an 8 yr old for a wife?

68 posted on 03/24/2003 10:25:31 AM PST by iranger
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I found his given middle name interesting as well....as is "Fidel"....just what kind of political pursuasions was this kid raised with any way?
69 posted on 03/24/2003 10:26:34 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: myprecious
http://www.submission.org/suras/app25.html


I lived in the Middle East and the Persian Gulf for about 6 years total and had many versions "explained" to me by the locals. The link above may tell ya more than I can.

Stay Safe !
70 posted on 03/24/2003 10:26:37 AM PST by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: dennisw


Freeper's Guide to Islamic Cyberterror

Twenty-Year Plan for USA: Islam Targets America

The True Furqan can be located on HERE or HERE

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Twenty-Year Plan for USA: Islam Targets America

Twenty-Year Plan for USA: Islam Targets America

(Dr. Anis Shorrosh)
The following is my analysis of Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020! Will Americans continue to sleep through this invasion as they did when we were attacked on 9/11?


1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with hate crime bills state-wide and nation-wide.

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities to promote Islam as the original African-American's religion while Christianity is for the whites! Strange enough, no one tells the African-Americans that it was the Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves, neither the fact that in Arabic the word for black and slave is the same, "Abed."

3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.

4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office for favorable legislation to Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the internet by buying the corporations or a controlling stock.

6. Yield to the fear of imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America - the black gold. America's economy depends on oil, (1000 products are derived from oil), so does its personal and industrial transportation and manufacturing -41% comes from the Middle East.

7. Yell, "foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un-American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran" anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.

8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions, get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way. Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?

9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:

a. Massive immigration (100,000 annually since 1961)

b. No birth control whatsoever - every baby of Muslim parents is automatically a Muslim and cannot choose another religion later.

c. Muslim men must marry American women and Islamize them (10,000 annually). Then divorce them and remarry every five years - since one cannot have the Muslim legal permission to marry four at one time. This is a legal solution in America.

d. Convert angry, alienated black inmates and turn them into militants (so far 2000 released inmates have joined Al Qaida world-wide). Only a few have been captured in Afghanistan and on American soil. So far - sleeping cells!

10. Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American educational system, mosques and student centers (now 1500) should be sprinkled with dislike of Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy. There are 300 exclusively Muslim schools with loyalty to the Quran, not the U.S. Constitution.

11. Provide very sizeable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and universities in America to establish "Centers for Islamic studies" with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher education institutions.

12. Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, not the truth, which is Islam hijacked the terrorists. Furthermore in January of 2002, Saudi Arabia's Embassy in Washington mailed 4500 packets of the Quran, videos, promoting Islam to America's high schools--free. They would never allow us to reciprocate.

13. Appeal to the historically compassionate and sensitive Americans for sympathy and tolerance towards the Muslims in America who are portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.

14. Nullify America's sense of security by manipulating the intelligence community with misinformation. Periodically terrorize Americans of impending attacks on bridges, tunnels, water supplies, airports, apartment buildings and malls. (We have experienced this too often since 9-11.)

15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding Islamic Sharia as the way of life, not American's justice system.

16. Open numerous charities throughout the U.S. but use the funds to support Islamic terrorism with American dollars.

17. Raise interest in Islam on America's campuses by insisting that freshman take at least one course on Islam. Be sure that the writer is a bonafide American, Christian, scholarly and able to cover up the violence in the Quran and express the peaceful, spiritual and religious aspect only.

18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media of their visibility.

19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by hook or crook.

20. Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the US by spotlighting their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and ethic groups in America.

71 posted on 03/24/2003 10:28:34 AM PST by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
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To: boxerblues
Bump

I distinctly recall the punishment for treason and red-handed murder in the military was a speedy court martial and the firing squad.

72 posted on 03/24/2003 10:32:18 AM PST by B-Cause
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To: Squantos
Nice summary.
73 posted on 03/24/2003 10:33:38 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: dennisw
Akbar's family last summer moved away from Moreno Valley, a blue-collar, ethnically diverse suburb 60 miles east of Los Angeles, neighbors said. The neighborhood is marked by overgrown lawns and homes surrounded by broken fences and wrought-iron gates. Jim Gordon, who has rented a home across the street for five years, said he didn't know the family well but said police often came to the house. It was the site of loud music and what he described as occasional domestic disputes.

ACKKKKKKKK!! I live 20 miles from Moreno Valley. The above pretty much describes most of MOValley.

Red

74 posted on 03/24/2003 10:35:42 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (got the new computer, touch pad, keyboard learning blues)
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To: dennisw
More Central than South, it's right across the Harbor Freeway from USC.
75 posted on 03/24/2003 10:36:52 AM PST by socal_parrot (Jean Valjean, the only decent Frenchmen.)
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To: dennisw
I hate California sometimes. Sheeeesh.
76 posted on 03/24/2003 10:37:26 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: dennisw
a graduate of the University of California, Davis, where he had a double major of aeronautical science engineering and mechanical engineering, spokeswoman Linda Lapin said.

I, too, am a graduate of UC Davis, and still work there. Judging by the official school rag, and other screeds that are routinely available on campus, it is not surprising to me that people who are so inclined would become murderous. Very often, the editorials in the rag are crammed with leftist hatred.

How, oh how, can we take our universities back?

77 posted on 03/24/2003 10:38:44 AM PST by exDemMom (US Navy, 1980-1984 & W in '04)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Credit is due a Dr. A. Shorrosh, a former Muslim who converted to Christianity that compiled it. I'm just a cut and paste presenter for the message that I thought fit this scenerio.

When I lived In the UAE, Qatar, Kuwait and Iran I saw good , bad and extreamly strange folks. I suspect every country has their own unique citizens but these guys are just "out there" as I observed em first hand for years.

Stay Safe !

78 posted on 03/24/2003 10:43:12 AM PST by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: dennisw
Didn't John Muhammad also have ties to Baton Rouge? what in the hell?

I notice his middle name is Fidel. He got anti-american radicalism in his mother's milk!!
79 posted on 03/24/2003 10:43:33 AM PST by faithincowboys (Hate The French)
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To: ought-six
Ever heard of the ablative case? It's what the preposition ex/e takes.
80 posted on 03/24/2003 11:06:39 AM PST by aristeides
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