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Muslim-American soldier detained in Kuwait attack (I KNEW it!)
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 22, 2003 | WND

Posted on 03/22/2003 9:15:27 PM PST by Edward Watson

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To: two23
Here's my question, when are we going to be rid of all this "hyphenated-American" crap? If they're too good to consider themselves just plain old "American", then they're too good for this country. Time to move out and free up a little oxygen for us lowly "American"s.
101 posted on 03/22/2003 10:12:32 PM PST by so_real
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To: Edward Watson
/sarcasm on

blah blah blah blah not all muslims are bad people blah blah blah

/sarcasm off

102 posted on 03/22/2003 10:12:35 PM PST by expatguy
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To: TLBSHOW
Anyone remember how Indira Ghandi cashed her chips in?
103 posted on 03/22/2003 10:13:27 PM PST by xp38
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To: ladyinred

Why Bush Will Not Defeat Islamic Terrorism

By Chaim Ben Pesach

(Originally published by JTF.ORG on February 19, 2003)

You can never defeat a determined enemy unless you recognize and identify that enemy.

America and Israel refuse to recognize and identify their common enemy: Islam.

America was created as a Republic in which the concept of religious liberty and tolerance is enshrined in the Bill of Rights.

More importantly, ever since America's formation in 1776, the doctrine of religious freedom and diversity has been enshrined in the heart and soul of the American people.

So it is extremely difficult for Americans to identify an enemy based upon his religious beliefs.

To do so seemingly goes against the spirit of American religious pluralism.

Americans believe that everyone has the right to their own religious beliefs and that it is un-American to infringe upon the religious liberties of their fellow citizens.

But....

What do we do when we are confronted by a religion, Islam, that preaches the physical extermination or forced conversion of all non-Muslims?

What do we do when we are violently attacked by a Nazi ideology that happens to be the deeply held religious belief of 1.3 billion Muslims?

What do we do when the Muslim religion itself, through its hateful Koran, commands all Muslims to engage in "jihad" (holy war) until the entire world is "dar al Islam" (under Islamic rule)?

What do we do when the Muslim religion itself in the Koran refers to all non-Muslims as "pigs" and "monkeys"?

What do we do when the world's Muslims obey Koranic Nazi teachings and massacre huge numbers of Christians, Jews and other non-Muslim "infidels"?

What do we do as the Muslim world races feverishly to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction to exterminate millions of Americans and Israelis as their religion commands them to do?

What do we do about the Muslim birthrate, which is by far the world's largest and which is causing the Islamic Nazi menace to grow astronomically?

What do we do? We deny reality because to acknowledge the truth would be to condemn an entire religion, something which Americans consider to be extraordinary distasteful.

So George W. Bush knowingly lies to the American people and speaks of how "peaceful" Islam really is.

The Bolshevik news media — much of which is now owned by Muslim terrorist Arab oil money — happily trumpets the same lies about "peaceful" Islam.

The fact that Islam was created and spread by the sword is ignored by our politicians and media.

The fact that the Nazi Koran preaches fanatic hatred, intolerance and genocide against all non-Muslims is ignored.

Americans face a difficult situation because for the first time in U.S. history, our nation is under attack for religious reasons.

All of America's prior wars had nationalistic — rather than religious — motivations.

The Revolutionary War was a battle for liberty and independence from British tyranny.

The Civil War was a battle over slavery and states rights.

World War I was a battle to prevent fanatic German chauvinism from overrunning all of Europe.

World War II was a battle to prevent the fascism of Germany, Japan and their numerous allies from conquering the world.

Korea, Vietnam and the Cold War were all battles against G-dless Communism.

Now for the first time in history, America is under attack for religious reasons.

The Muslim war against America did not begin on September 11, 2001.

The war started in June 1968, when PLO terrorist Sirhan Sirhan — under the direct orders of the Arab Hitler Yasser Arafat — assassinated U.S. Senator Robert F. Kennedy, who had just become the frontrunner for the Democratic Presidential nomination following his victory in the California primary.

PLO terrorists then seized the American Embassy in the Sudan to demand Sirhan's release. The CIA has Arafat's voice on a tape in which he personally ordered the PLO terrorists to murder the American Ambassador and his assistant, which the PLO terrorists in fact did.

Other Muslim terrorist attacks followed in which Americans were murdered but the U.S. did not get the message.

When Egypt, Syria and the Arab world staged a sneak attack on little Israel while Jews were fasting and praying on Yom Kippur (The Day of Atonement) in October 1973, the U.S. prevented the Jewish State from decisively winning the war when Washington demanded a premature ceasefire just as the Israel Defense Forces were about to destroy the Egyptian Muslim Nazi attackers.

The Arab Muslim world "thanked" the U.S. for saving Nazi Egypt from total defeat by imposing a devastating oil embargo that crippled America's economy throughout the 1970s.

In November 1979, the Iranian Muslim terrorist regime seized the U.S. Embassy in Teheran and held over 100 Americans hostage until January 20, 1981.

In 1983, the Iranian- and Syrian-controlled Hezballah terrorists blew up a U.S. Marines barrack in Lebanon murdering 243 American servicemen. The U.S. "retaliated" by lightly bombing Syrian Army positions in Syrian-occupied Lebanon — causing no casualties and no major damage.

The U.S. Marines were in Lebanon to protect the PLO terrorists from Israeli retaliation. The Marines enabled the PLO terrorists to safely escape from the Israel Defense Forces.

For the millionth time, America desperately sought to curry favor with the hateful Muslim world by stabbing little Israel in the back.

And for the millionth time, the Muslims "thanked" the U.S. by savagely slaughtering hundreds of American "infidels."

The relentless Muslim terrorist attacks on Americans continued throughout the 1980s and 1990s until 3,000 Americans were brutally butchered on September 11th.

But America — and Israel — refuse to recognize that the source of the problem is the Koran.

As long as 1.3 billion Muslims continue to believe in a Nazi book that demands genocide against all non-Muslims, Islamic terrorism will only get worse, much worse, until millions of "infidels" are massacred by weapons of mass destruction.

The only way to end this nightmare is to have leaders in America and Israel who clearly identify the enemy: Islam.

Then we would become energy independent and cut off the hundreds of billions of dollars that flow to Muslim terrorist regimes in order to purchase their oil.

Then we would end our insane policy of giving foreign aid to all of our enemies.

Then we would destroy Muslim terrorist nuclear bomb-making factories in Iran, Libya, Egypt and Saudi Arabia rather than focus solely on the far less developed — and far less dangerous — weapons development program in Iraq.

If we did all of this, the primitive, lazy and parasitic Muslim world would literally be starving.

That would force an end to the Muslim population boom, and there would not be the billions of dollars needed to rebuild destroyed nuclear bomb-making factories.

The only voices of truth in the life-and-death struggle against Islam are JTF in America and the Herut (Liberty) Party in Israel.

We can turn the tide and awaken the American and Israeli public if only we have the necessary funding.


104 posted on 03/22/2003 10:15:10 PM PST by majordivit
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To: so_real
"Here's my question, when are we going to be rid of all this "hyphenated-American" crap?"

I know...many of us cringe at the hyphenated Amercian clause. It literally DIVIDES Americans (by CHOICE, no less). We are becoming a "factional nation", and looking around the world lately, most "factional nations" are not enjoying peace, freedom and prosperity.

106 posted on 03/22/2003 10:19:54 PM PST by two23
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To: two23
Story is out on CNN....
107 posted on 03/22/2003 10:22:11 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Edward Watson
What is Taqiyah?

He who disbelieves in Allah after his belief in Him, (is the liar) except he who is compelled while his heart remains steadfast with the faith (has nothing worry). But who opens his breast for infidelity; on these is wrath of Allah, and for them is a great torment.
--Qur’an, Surah 16 (an‑Nahl), verse 100

This verse of the Qur’an refers to the incident when 'Ammar bin Yasir (May Allah be pleased with both) had to utter some words against Islam to save himself from the Quraishite infidels.

The Qur'an clearly allows hiding one 's true faith when one is in danger of one's life. This rule is called taqiyah.

Question 1: What is the meaning of "Taqiyah"?
Answer: Its literal meaning is to safeguard; to defend; to fear; piety (because it saves one from the displeasure of Allah).

Question 2: What is its significance in Islamic termi­nology?
Answer: In Islamic terminology it means "to save life, honour. or property (either one's own or of other be­lievers) by hiding one's belief or religion".

I imagine the rule would apply in a lesser way to a Muslim who hides his jihad sympathies.

108 posted on 03/22/2003 10:22:24 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: majordivit
So George W. Bush knowingly lies to the American people and speaks of how "peaceful" Islam really is.

Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggie" until you can find a rock.

For the U.S. to stage an all-out war on Islam at this stage in the game would be positively disastrous. For Bush to attempt to lead such a crusade would destroy his career and reputation.

What Bush is trying to do here is a sort of reverse psychology: downplay the evils of radical Islam, and let reality play them up. If Bush were to say radical Islam was evil, liberals would be blind to any attocities commited in its name. But by downplaying it, Bush makes the liberals accutely aware of such attrocities when they occur.

109 posted on 03/22/2003 10:22:33 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: freedom44
Can you distinguish the Christians (Maronite, RC, etc)?
110 posted on 03/22/2003 10:25:48 PM PST by yianni
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To: Edward Watson
Why?
111 posted on 03/22/2003 10:28:39 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: so_real
"Muslim-American" indeed. How come you don't hear of Christian-Americans or Buddhist-Americans? The headline is silly.
112 posted on 03/22/2003 10:29:49 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: freedom44
That could be an impressive list ... but of the names I reckognize I've never heard any of them refer to themselves as "Lebanese-American". In fact, I believe the first individual you listed, Spencer Abraham, considers himself very much "just" an American and is Eastern Orthodox. His heritage may indeed be Lebanese, but his nationality is American. That's the key.
113 posted on 03/22/2003 10:30:32 PM PST by so_real
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To: Edward Watson
I have been called every damn name in the book for warning people about things like this.
114 posted on 03/22/2003 10:34:22 PM PST by expatguy
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To: crazykatz
But for this father, anger mixed with pain. Michael Waters-Bey believes his son, a staff sergeant

specialist in helicopter maintenance,


died needlessly in a war that does not make sense.

Holding up a photograph of his son, Michael Waters-Bey, who described himself as

a "naturalized Muslim,"


said he wished he could speak directly to the dead Marine's commander-in-chief.

Asked what he would tell President Bush (news - web sites), he said: "This was not your son or daughter. That chair he sat in at Thanksgiving will be empty forever."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030323/ap_on_re_mi_ea/war_first_casualties_26
115 posted on 03/22/2003 10:42:43 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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To: two23
and looking around the world lately, most "factional nations" are not enjoying peace, freedom and prosperity.

Agreed. In fact we tried "seperate but equal" in this nation as well, and as I recall the results were less than satisfactory here as well. Somewhere along the way, things stopped melting in the "melting pot" and it's been a downhill slide since.
116 posted on 03/22/2003 10:43:28 PM PST by so_real
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To: MarlboroRed
I doubt there are a lot of Arab muslims in the Services, and if there are any, no doubt, right now they're dumped in some "token" position where they can do little harm.

Actually any Arabic speaking soldiers are going to be invaluable as translators and in Army intelligence. Wolfowitz was recently urging Iraqi-Americans to join up. I would be more concerned with "converts" than second generation Arab-Americans, Afghan-Americans, etc.

117 posted on 03/22/2003 10:57:59 PM PST by Hugin
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To: TLBSHOW
Should we get rid of all the French, German, and Russian soldiers, too?
118 posted on 03/22/2003 11:04:58 PM PST by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: lizbet
Most news articles carefully avoid mentioning that he was Muslim. This WorldNetDaily was the only one I found, which mentions it up front.

And the "disgruntled" bit doesn't wash.

SkyNews correspondent, Stuart Ramsey mentioned, when asked by Fox about the "disgruntled" theory, that he did not attack his superiors, in fact he didn't even know, nor had any interaction with the people he attacked. I heard this on Fox, but have not seen it in any articles. The SkyNews article does at least bring up the possibility that he may have planned this even before he has been deployed.

And maybe he was acting strange for a few days before, because he was planning and getting ready for this attack.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1084723,00.html

119 posted on 03/22/2003 11:10:35 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: supercat
Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggie" until you can find a rock

I like that.

120 posted on 03/22/2003 11:11:19 PM PST by cgk (the Mrs half)
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