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Anti-war protesters have no idea: refugee (Iraqi man speaks to australian newspaper)
sydney morning herald ^ | March 23, 2003 | Eamonn Duff

Posted on 03/22/2003 11:24:22 AM PST by anncoulteriscool

Anti-war protesters have no idea: refugee

By Eamonn Duff

March 23 2003

A Sydney Iraqi family has slammed ongoing Australian anti-war protests, saying demonstrators have no idea who or what they are campaigning for.

Dhafir Al-Shammery escaped certain death under Saddam Hussein's regime in 1996. Today he is one of several hundred Iraqis living in Sydney who now know what the term freedom truly means.

In an exclusive interview with The Sun-Herald, he said: "When I see thousands of Australians marching the streets on behalf of the Iraqi people, my heart sinks, because their view is not that of the Iraqi people.

"They [the protesters] say they are making a stand against the war because of human rights issues. They say it is the Iraqi people who will suffer most through this conflict.

"I speak out because they need to be told they are wrong. They need to support their country. They need to be told the truth - and that is that the Iraqi people have been suffering human rights crimes for decades.

"I am sorry, but these protesters cannot even imagine what has gone on there. Nobody would know unless they had lived and suffered it."

Mr Al-Shammery, 38, was one of the Shi'ite Muslim majority crushed by Saddam after the 1991 Gulf War.

When he saw his cousin executed, he fled with six other Iraqis on an open skiff, eight metres long and one metre wide, which for seven days battled two- to three-metre waves. He neither slept nor ate in that time. He simply sat with his knees pressed against his chest and prayed for a day when he would be free.

"I knew I had a 100 per cent chance of death if I stayed [in Iraq] but only a 90 per cent chance of death if I fled in a little boat," he said.

"So I chose the 10 per cent chance of life. Wouldn't you?"

Today he has found that freedom in Fairfield Heights, where he lives with his wife Natalia and his two sons, Mustafa, 6, and Noor, 12. Not only does he run successful security and export businesses, he lives in a street where families from numerous ethnic backgrounds all live in peace and harmony.

"The protesters need to understand that in Iraq, there is no freedom of expression ... not through speech or thought, nothing," he said.

"If you are not with him [Saddam], that means you are against him. A murmur of discontent to your neighbour across the fence can lead to your wife being executed. And then, the Government visits your home and makes you pay money for the bullet that killed her.

"They bring your dead wife, they show you how she was tortured before the bullet put her out of her misery. And if you refuse to pay for the bullet that killed her, they simply take more of your family."

Mr Al-Shammery added: "Cousins of mine disappeared many years ago without trace. We knew what happened to them but we didn't say we knew because you don't say anything to anyone. So we just carried on, suffering, keeping all thoughts to ourselves."

When Mr Al-Shammery arrived in Australia, he was sent to Villawood Detention Centre where he had to remain as an illegal for many months.

When he attempted, through the media, to inform the Australian public of the monstrosities he had fled from, his words somehow filtered back to Iraq.

"I am not sure how they received this information, but they headed straight for my family who were scattered between Najaf and Al Qadisiyah in southern Iraq," he said.

"They took my father but it was my brother who really suffered. They threw him in jail. They tortured him."

Mr Al-Shammery said he felt comfortable telling his story now because he believes America and its allies will finish the job they have started.

"I honestly believe that we will see the Coalition take over very quickly, because the people want this," he said.

"Everywhere in Iraq, they have prayed for this. There will not be any resistance. The army will not fight like [Saddam] thinks it will. I just hope that it can all be done with minimum civilian casualties."

Mr Al-Shammery said his only fear was that when Saddam Hussein realises his people have helped topple him, he may use the weapons of mass destruction the coalition is convinced he possesses.

"That is the concern and that is why they need to find him quickly," he said.

This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/22/1047749993344.html


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; australia; iraqi; iraqirefugees; war
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A good story about a man from iraq who escaped to australia who now feels free to speak...its too bad everyy "war protester" cant read this.
1 posted on 03/22/2003 11:24:23 AM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: anncoulteriscool
FOX should be interviwing the people who know what we're fighting against.
The American people need to hear this.
I find it disturbing our own left wing section of our government supports this type of ruler. Pray they never, ever, regain any power in Washington. Amen.
2 posted on 03/22/2003 11:29:20 AM PST by concerned about politics (Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
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To: anncoulteriscool
"I speak out because they need to be told they are wrong. They need to support their country. They need to be told the truth - and that is that the Iraqi people have been suffering human rights crimes for decades.

Bump for the TRUTH!

3 posted on 03/22/2003 11:33:24 AM PST by Balata
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To: anncoulteriscool
I work with an Iraqi man who expressed a similar sentiment in response to the apeasement protesters in San Francisco. He made it a point to to tell me that these protesters are supporting Saddam regardless of their intentions.
4 posted on 03/22/2003 11:34:13 AM PST by Owl558
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To: concerned about politics
I have to wonder if it's just our area..all of our local news stations have been interviewing local iraqi's...all the same story... They'd be dead in Iraq...everyone hates saddam..etc.
5 posted on 03/22/2003 11:34:21 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: anncoulteriscool
Bump.
6 posted on 03/22/2003 11:35:01 AM PST by Rocko
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To: concerned about politics
Excellent article. Thank you for posting it.

Drudge has two articles on his site that I've sent to liberal appeasers. These articles are likely written by embedded journalists and are first-hand accounts of the Iraqi's tears of joy at being "saved".

Send them on to anyone you can think of to get the word out, because the mainstream press surely won't.

7 posted on 03/22/2003 11:35:16 AM PST by Peach
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To: Rocko
And bookmarked.
8 posted on 03/22/2003 11:35:21 AM PST by Rocko
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To: anncoulteriscool
Yes, it's too bad every war protester can't read. The ones I've seen on TV and in person here are definitely NOT the reading type - if you know what I mean.
9 posted on 03/22/2003 11:35:31 AM PST by Mrs. P (I didn't do it, no one saw me, you can't prove anything....)
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To: concerned about politics
I do not support "this type of ruler". However I do support other countries’ sovereign right to determine their own destiny without condescending, self-righteous outside influence.
10 posted on 03/22/2003 11:35:38 AM PST by apkubrick
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To: anncoulteriscool
But, of course, the RATS in the street hate Bush more than Hussein. They are vile, despicable peace pukes.
11 posted on 03/22/2003 11:36:10 AM PST by doug from upland (Protestors file Chapter 13 -- they are morally bankrupt)
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"I knew I had a 100 per cent chance of death if I stayed [in Iraq] but only a 90 per cent chance of death if I fled in a little boat," he said. "So I chose the 10 per cent chance of life. Wouldn't you?"

Wow, powerful stuff.

12 posted on 03/22/2003 11:37:28 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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However I do support other countries’ sovereign right to determine their own destiny without condescending, self-righteous outside influence.

What is sovereign about the above description of life in Iraq? The only one with a choice is the butcher of Baghdad.

13 posted on 03/22/2003 11:39:11 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: apkubrick
I do not support "this type of ruler". However I do support other countries’ sovereign right to determine their own destiny without condescending, self-righteous outside influence.

Their tales of slow torture and killing made me ill, such as people put in a huge shredder for plastic products, feet first so they could hear their screams as bodies got chewed up from foot to head."

14 posted on 03/22/2003 11:41:23 AM PST by concerned about politics (Anti-American protestors are inbread liberal Notsosmartso's.)
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To: Mrs. P
The ones I've seen on TV and in person here are definitely NOT the reading type - if you know what I mean.

Doesn't matter one way or the other. After all, we see what we look for. How many escapees from the USSR and Red China, telling their stories of horror, were breezily dismissed by "progressives" here in American, and the West.

15 posted on 03/22/2003 11:41:34 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it, but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: apkubrick
However I do support other countries’ sovereign right to determine their own destiny without condescending, self-righteous outside influence.

Who possesses the sovereign right, the people of Iraq or Saddam and his cohort of thugs?

16 posted on 03/22/2003 11:44:29 AM PST by Gee Wally
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To: anncoulteriscool
Even if an anti-war protester read this, I wouldn't expect it to make a difference. The anti-war crowd isn't objective. They tend to be idealistic utopians - if the facts get in the way of their ideals, they simply ignore them. Notice how selective they are in their outrage: How many anti-Saddam signs do you see in those crowds? How Many "Free Iraq" signs do you see? You'll see more 'Free Tibet" signs. They're out of touch with reality.

A quote I once came across sums it up well:
"If you want to make a conservative mad, tell a lie. If you want to make a liberal mad, tell the truth"
17 posted on 03/22/2003 11:45:06 AM PST by SolutionsOnly
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To: apkubrick
apkubrick signed up 2003-03-22.

Welcome!

18 posted on 03/22/2003 11:48:00 AM PST by jonno
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To: concerned about politics
Bump again.
19 posted on 03/22/2003 11:51:14 AM PST by Rocko
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To: apkubrick
If you saw someone killing a person .... you would not interfere if it was not your own family?

Do you not know these Iraqi could not remove this dictator? Do you not know anyone who tried, was killed in a awful manner?
20 posted on 03/22/2003 11:52:24 AM PST by frnewsjunkie
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