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There is, however, a fringe attached to the conservative world that cannot overcome its despair and alienation. The resentments are too intense, the bitterness too unappeasable. Only the boldest of them as yet explicitly acknowledge their wish to see the United States defeated in the War on Terror. But they are thinking about defeat, and wishing for it, and they will take pleasure in it if it should happen.

They began by hating the neoconservatives. They came to hate their party and this president. They have finished by hating their country.

A disgusting rabble of bottom-feeding troglodytes wallowing in the fetid fever swamps of paleo-conservatism.

[MEG33]

This has been posted but it is a must read.

[RAT Patrol]

Oh brother. I agree with this guy on the war but this rant is ridiculous.

[Protagoras]

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[jjm2111]

Is he paid by the word?

[The Irishman]

They aspire to reinvent conservative ideology: to junk the 50-year-old conservative commitment to defend American interests and values throughout the world — the commitment that inspired the founding of this magazine.

Long on rhetoric but short on facts. As a reader of National Review starting in the mid-50s I can report that NR was not an advocate of "conservative ideology" then, though it is now an advocate of neocon ideology.

Any similarity in the two is strictly coincidental. Conservatism, as opposed to liberalism, libertarianism, neoconism, was and is non-ideological.

[Longshanks]

David Frum should be renamed David Froth after this rabid hit piece but it is comforting that he felt constrained to mentioning "anti-Semitism" only once and then quoting somebody else. Apparently that oft-played card is losing potency. He puts to rest any lingering doubt over whether the neos are genuinely conservative.

Paleoconservatives are almost alone in raising concerns about the REAL demographic threat posed by Islam. The suicidal immigration policies and the native population implosion of Europe has slated that continent to a Muslim majority in only a few short decades. We see abortion killing not just individuals but entire civilizations. Call it self-genocide.

This Christian viewpoint is dismissed as racist by the liberal/neoconservative establishment. Instead of addressing the real problem, our secularist leaders launch a war to "free" the people of Iraq. After Afghanistan, this is second in an apparently planned series of wars to "free" the entire Middle East.

What secularists really plan is a hair-brained scheme to impose a liberalized "peaceful" Islam. Perhaps demographic concerns will be handled by encouraging widespread abortion for Muslims as in Christian societies.

The Christian/Palioconservative alternative is to stop killing our future generations with abortion and end Islamic immigration. What's wrong with that?

[Longshanks]

But even Robert Taft and Charles Lindbergh ceased accommodating Axis aggression after Pearl Harbor.

Buchanan has rightly called for supporting President Bush and the troops until this war is over. After that, debate on republic vs. empire will resume. There is nothing unpatriotic about that.

[Destro]

Is not David Frum a Canadian and not an American citizen?

[Willie Green]

to junk the 50-year-old conservative commitment to defend American interests and values throughout the world

Frum's problem is that he's so left-wing that he thinks Franklin Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson are conservative.

[Captain Kirk]

Typical jingoistic smear work. Just about all the conservatives who oppose the current war *supported* the Afghan operation which *was* (a la Pearl Harbor) a response to a direct attack. The social engineering war in Iraq does not fit that rule but, of course, these details are of no concern to the Constitution-hating witch hunters who now dominate the conservative movement (at least on FR).

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

In that paragraph, you've quoted he's attributing a well-known liberal position to paleoconservatives. The article on the whole is a smear.

[RedwM]

It just occurred to me that I haven't heard or seen anything of our Vice President for a long time. I wonder where he is.