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To: Jumper
Companies say that H-1B visas provide well-trained workers who have skills that are hard to find in the domestic labor force. But US workers say that at a time of high unemployment among American engineers and computer programmers, the H-1B program is mainly being used to bring in cheaper workers from overseas

Do you really think that there are no US workers to fill these jobs? In the Boston area, the problem is immense. Very well qualified techies, who in many cases put systems in place, are losing their jobs to Indian workers.

The H-1B visa program was supposed to be used to fill worker shortages. Qualified US workers should be allowed to claim those jobs filled by foreign labor, and those laborers should be sent home. There is no shortage. Face it.

24 posted on 03/18/2003 4:30:26 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: grania
Very well qualified techies, who in many cases put systems in place, are losing their jobs to Indian workers.

Example: Friend of mine in his 40's, 15 years experience in Oracle-related technology, as a Business Analyst, and Business development specialist. He's an ex-military pilot, and military academy graduate. This guy is as sharp as they come. He's been out of work half of the past 4 years, and has been "underemployed" when working. There is NO REASON IN THE WORLD why this guy shouldn't have career position in middle-technical management, other than his age, nationality, and the fact that he has a wife and five kids who live on the CALIFORNIA economy, not a third-world economy.

The "white guys" (referenced by a FReeper in an earlier post) whose careers are being deliberately ruined by our government policies (and short-sighted American firms) are the Little League Coaches, Boy Scout Troop leaders, the Dad's (or Mom's), the "best and brightest" of the past 30 years, who are responsible for building the America we now have. Hard to focus on family or community service when you're career is in constant flux.

28 posted on 03/18/2003 4:43:22 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: grania
What I think is that all the western countries, e.g., Germany, Holland, Belguim, France, and the US have all made a concerted decision to do several things to this end. We have created a system whereby qualified foreigners can come to the US and take some of the wage pressure off employers. We have created a system which will attract the best and brightest from other nations, thereby deminishing the democrat pool.

If one views it through protectionist eyewear, they will only see the negatives. I for one see the glass more than half full in this instance. To all allow people to stay in their native countries and enrich the economies in direct competition with our own is stupid over the long run. As a Systems Administrator I know full well that there are too many overpaid "professionals" around me.... My point is that Americans in the IT field have been well paid for a long time and the ROI is just not always there; Americans should give more value to their employers or else they have succumbed to the "socialist theory of employment", e.g., that they are entitled without competition to their lifestyles.

39 posted on 03/18/2003 5:54:45 AM PST by Jumper
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To: grania
There was NEVER a worker shortage. Only a CHEAP worker shortage.

How many H1-Bs were working at Global Crossing? Need to keep the labor costs down so Terry McAuliffe could make his $10 Million.

Same with Sun. How could he give so much to the DNC if his labor costs were cutting into his revenues.

Follow the money, my friends.
80 posted on 03/19/2003 1:23:25 PM PST by mabelkitty
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