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Democrats seek another Clinton
MSNBC ^ | Tom Curry

Posted on 03/16/2003 1:39:08 PM PST by McGruff

The activists who gathered at California's Democratic Party convention this weekend would like to see the 2004 election as Bush vs. Clinton. Not Sen. Hillary Clinton, but Bill Clinton. California Democrats are searching for the winning candidate and many say he should resemble the last Democratic president.

"I'VE REALLY GOT to tell you, I miss Bill Clinton," said Red Blum, a veteran Democratic operative from Fullerton, Calif. "He was a charming rascal, but he was intellectually curious -- he could talk all night about anything. He left us a big budget surplus. He had people in the Middle East talking to each other, they were making progress. It's all been abandoned since then." Asked what he is most looking for in the party's standard-bearer, Glenn Goldstein, a landscape architect from Brea, Calif., had a succinct answer: "Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was great for the country. I think Bill Clinton had the qualities that it took to ride above all the nonsense the press might have given him."

'THE CLINTON CHARISMA' Barbara Schraeger, a Sausalito Democrat who helped put together a fund-raiser Thursday night for Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, gave Kerry the ultimate compliment: "I think he's got the Clinton charisma. Bill Clinton had the ability to look you in the eye and you'd be the only one in the room that mattered. Kerry has that."

What some non-Democrats may forget about Clinton is that in the early stages of his presidential bid in 1991 he met personally with many of these Democratic fund-raisers and precinct organizers -- and they're still in awe of his personal magnetism and encyclopedic knowledge.

The Democrats have a field of nine to pick from, with others such as ex-senator Gary Hart and retired Gen. Wesley Clark poised to enter the fray.

At this stage, most California activists are undecided -- waiting for one of the hopefuls to show a charismatic spark. But among the rank and file, the great unifying emotion is pure contempt for President Bush.

Attending a gathering of Democratic activists in 2003 and listening to them assail George W. Bush is very much like attending a GOP activists' meeting in 1997 or 1998 and hearing their descriptions of Bill Clinton. In each case, the intensity of their disdain for the president is overpowering.

Along with that contempt goes a belief among attendees that Bush will be highly unpopular by the time voters go to the polls in November of 2004.

"He is obsessed" with Iraq, scoffed Blum. "The economy is in the tank, it's going deeper and he doesn't have a clue!"

Despite some anger at those Democratic contenders, such as Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina, who voted for last October's resolution giving Bush authorization to use force against Iraq, "the party can unite on a candidate just because of who is the White House right now," said Tim Steed, chairman of the Orange County Young Democrats.

"I think George Bush is a uniter of all Democrats who just want to get him out. In his words, he is the 'unificator' of the Democratic Party because his ideology is so contrary to much what pretty much every Democrat believes in."

Steed is backing former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean but would be willing to settle for some other candidate in order to beat Bush. "It is a kind of a shame that you are going to choose the lesser of two evils, but the way George Bush is running the country, I would choose the lesser of two evils," he said.

SADDAM AS DISTRACTION If the weekend meeting here was any indication, Democrats harbor a deep suspicion of Bush's motives for leading the nation into a war with Iraq.

The convention crowd cheered Rev. Al Sharpton when he declared that Bush was "trying to take young people who you won't give public education at home and send them to Iraq."

Sharpton also charged that Bush was using Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden as the "bogyman" to scare Americans and distract attention from the economy.

John Burton, president pro tempore of the California state Senate, told convention delegates that although North Korea has nuclear weapons and Iraq may not, Bush is intent on attacking Iraq. Burton's explanation: "The only difference I can tell is oil. I guess it shows what you get when you have an oil man as president, an oil man as vice president and a national security advisor who sat on the board at Chevron."

Above all, California activists are searching for authenticity. They want someone who is not afraid to passionately declare Democratic ideology: gay rights, racial equality, abortion rights, closing the California coastline to oil drilling, and so on. Many say the party's leaders in 2000 and 2002 muted their true Democratic rhetoric and beliefs.

"Never again will the Democratic party go into an election without a Democratic message saying who we are, what we stand for, and what we will fight for," declared House minority leader Nancy Pelosi on Saturday to rousing cheers of the crowd.

It was an implicit criticism of former House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, now a member of the pack of presidential contenders, who tried his hardest to make last year's elections a referendum on the economy but backed Bush on use of force in Iraq.

Meanwhile, Dean won a clamorous round of applause when he told the convention, "I'm here to represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party" -- implying that other Democratic leaders had drifted from the tradition of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson and the Kennedys.

Jo Anne Marquardt, a teacher from Sacramento, backed Green Party candidate Ralph Nader in 2000, but she was toting a big "Dean for President" sign at the Sacramento convention, supporting the former Vermont governor primarily because he is against the Iraq war.

"I don't follow politics that much," said Marquardt, "but I heard Howard Dean on NPR and it was like, 'Wow, he is saying what I want to hear.'"

DEAN TOO FAR LEFT? Some Democratic strategists worry that Dean, who signed a civil unions bills to legalize gay and lesbian couples in Vermont and who calls for universal federally-mandated health insurance, might not be able to win the general election.

"I do think he's going pretty far to the left, to be honest," said Garry South, the strategist who masterminded Gov. Gray Davis's re-election campaign last year.

But Dean's rousing speech to the convention on Saturday had delegates and political professionals buzzing with excitement.

Dennis Washburn, a city council member from Calabasas, Calif., said Democrats were looking for intense, foot-stomping rhetoric from their presidential candidate and Dean gave them a supersized serving of it.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


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KEYWORDS: californicators; clueless; kneepads
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Please, oh please give us another Clinton.
1 posted on 03/16/2003 1:39:08 PM PST by McGruff
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2 posted on 03/16/2003 1:40:02 PM PST by mhking (Red Alert! Shields Up! Lock phasers and quantum torpedoes on Baghdad!)
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To: McGruff
they deserve another clinton, but this time we see him coming and we'll run his sorry ass out of town....
3 posted on 03/16/2003 1:41:22 PM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of AmerICA)
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The politically correct words for PERVERT are "charming rascal" according to the Dems.. Geez, these guys have cra* morals.
4 posted on 03/16/2003 1:43:11 PM PST by Sacajaweau (Hillary: Constitutional Scholar! NOT)
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To: McGruff


5 posted on 03/16/2003 1:46:36 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: McGruff
Oh, Ms. Pelosi, but we know what you "stand for" and what you will "fight for". Sure, bring on another Clinton, and watch him/her get trounced in 2004!
6 posted on 03/16/2003 1:46:38 PM PST by Theresawithanh (A conservative from the PRC (People's Republic of California))
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To: The Wizard
Looking for another Clinton eh????

Ted Bundy seems close to the mark, a charismatic sociopath... the rats would love him if he were still alive.

7 posted on 03/16/2003 1:47:28 PM PST by Leto
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To: mhking
They just don't get it..He is only popular in certain
areas..look how Florida reacted when he went down for the
Governor's race.....Let Dems keep putting out ..Clinton,
Carville, and Begala....will make for a definite sweep
in '04..Include Boxer...she even likes partial birth
abortion....and votes against Mr. Estrada for a position
on the bench.....Jake
8 posted on 03/16/2003 1:47:30 PM PST by sanjacjake
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To: McGruff
There's bound to be one or two driving around Arkansas chasing convenience store clerks in their long lost daddy's old El Camino with the astro turf bed liner. I'd say they're about 35 by now. Both of their truck stop diner waitress mommas probably aren't alive anymore having died unexplainedly at the same age the young Bill look alikes are now. I'm sure they're availble and willing to run, provided old serpent head can track them down in time.
9 posted on 03/16/2003 1:48:42 PM PST by TADSLOS (Sua Sponte)
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To: McGruff
>>Barbara Schraeger, a Sausalito Democrat who helped put together a fund-raiser Thursday night for Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, gave Kerry the ultimate compliment: "I think he's got the Clinton charisma. Bill Clinton had the ability to look you in the eye and you'd be the only one in the room that mattered<<

Does Barbara have a blue dress?

Has she had it cleaned since 2000?

10 posted on 03/16/2003 1:49:10 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: McGruff; All
I guess theres no point in telling everyone that I want to reflexively vomit, is there?
11 posted on 03/16/2003 1:49:25 PM PST by DoctorMichael ("I don't wanna live in a 21st century Caliphate" ~DocMichael)
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To: McGruff
Democrats seek another Clinton

Jackass from Arkansas needed for position on 2004 Democratic presidential ticket. Disco haircut and serious personality disorder required. Permanent address outside a trailer park preferred but not necessary. Candidate must possess a matching pair of shoes or must obtain such before January 2004. Compensation will include lots of fat broads with similar personality disorders and similar lack of ethical/moral standards. The Democratic Party is an Equal Opportunity Employer -- Women and minorities will be rejected out of hand but are encouraged to apply nonetheless.

12 posted on 03/16/2003 1:50:50 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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"a charming rascal"

I'm stunned! I'm series - I'm stunned at this statement. These people STILL DON'T BELIEVE WHAT x42 DID TO THIS COUNTRY - THEY DON'T EVEN SEE IT - This is scary!
13 posted on 03/16/2003 1:51:15 PM PST by CyberAnt ( -> -> -> Oswego!!)
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To: McGruff
Drain a swap, and something close to Clinton will be somewhere in the muck at the bottom.

Of course there's always hell.

14 posted on 03/16/2003 1:51:24 PM PST by CT
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To: Leto
Uh, careful there, Ted Bundy was in the 'young republicans', if memory serves.

Actually, Edwards and a few others are cut from the same leftist societal engineering cloth as sinkEmperor Willy ... not to mention the crusty pantsuit waiting in the wings for the current crop of dem candidates to shoot their mouths off and become exposed for their calculated obstructionism.

15 posted on 03/16/2003 1:52:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Sacajaweau
The Rats are seeking another clintoon???

Shouldn't be difficult.

"Hey, Terry McCallmeacommie, seek out Dante. Word has it he has a bunch of dirtbags winding their circular ways toward hell!"

The Rats are there for the picking.

Mustang sends.
16 posted on 03/16/2003 1:54:47 PM PST by Mustang (Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
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To: CyberAnt
"Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton was great for the country. I think Bill Clinton had the qualities that it took to ride above all the nonsense the press might have given him." The first time I heard a tenn use the argument that oral sex isn't really sex because the president said so, I realized the lasting impression the deviant has had on this nation ... and that's the most benign effect, if it can be characterized as benign given the meteoric rise in oral sexually transmitted diseases.
17 posted on 03/16/2003 1:55:39 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: McGruff
Bill Clinton was great for the country

Yeah?

Talk to the survivors of 9-11.

Talk to Powell and Rumsfeld who are cleaning up the horrendous mess that the great stainmaker left his successor!!

Ask the retired why the Nasdaq went from 5000 to 2400 in Clinton's last year in office, the start of a stock market depression.

Just whose country was Clinton good for?

Certainly not America!!!

18 posted on 03/16/2003 1:56:45 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: McGruff
This is really good for us. To win votes in California the DemonRat candidates all need to kiss the collective behinds of the most anti-patriotic extremists this side of Saddan Husein. After they all finish doing that, they won't be able to come back to the rest of the country. It looks like they have the whole DemonRat party on a motorcycle and are runnning it into a brick wall at 120 m.p.h., a terrible waste of a good motorcycle.
19 posted on 03/16/2003 1:59:28 PM PST by libstripper
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To: McGruff
"He is obsessed" with Iraq, scoffed Blum. "The economy is in the tank, it's going deeper and he doesn't have a clue!"

Three thousand dead civilians wish that Clinton had been "obsessed" with Osama bin-Laden.

The economy was delivered to Bush in poor condition, Clinton's lack of attention to security created 9-11, which exacerbated economic problems.

20 posted on 03/16/2003 1:59:31 PM PST by wayoverontheright
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