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Cabinet wrestles with Collier County land purchases
The Naples Daily News ^ | 03-14-03 | MICHAEL PELTIER

Posted on 03/14/2003 5:20:33 AM PST by AAABEST

For now, Jesse Hardy can keep his land.

Gov. Jeb Bush and the Florida Cabinet on Thursday gave Hardy and fellow Southern Golden Gate Estates resident George Miller more time to negotiate with state officials, who want to acquire their lands. Hardy and Miller have refused to give up their homes to make way for an environmental restoration project that has both state and federal blessing.

Instead of forcing the pair off their land through legal action, Cabinet members told Department of Environmental Protection Secretary David Struhs to go back to the homeowners with a better offer.

Such a deal could include buying the property, paying all moving and legal fees and allowing them to stay until it's time to flood the region, which wouldn't take place until at least 2006 but may likely be later.

"When it's somebody's property sitting out there and we need to put a road through it, I have no problem with that," state financial officer Tom Gallagher said. "Somebody's homestead is a different deal."

The Cabinet made the decision after Bush blasted Collier County officials for driving up the cost of state land-buying because of local zoning rules that appear to fly in the face of longstanding state and federal efforts to purchase land for Everglades restoration.

"We need to start second-guessing Collier County," Bush said.

Hardy, a 67-year-old disabled veteran, lives on 160 acres with his adopted 7-year-old son, Tommy. His parcel is part of the less than 4,000 acres yet to be purchased within the 55,000-acre buyout in rural Collier County, south of Interstate 75. State and federal officials have already spent $92 million on property in the region.

Despite being under target for purchases for a year, Hardy in 2001 obtained permits from Collier County to begin an earth-mining business. He also wants to start a catfish farming operation.

The Cabinet has long said it wouldn't force landowners to sell their property. Most property owners have agreed to sell. Of the 19,000 parcels originally under private ownership, fewer than 350 parcels remain at issue.

Thursday, Struhs said the two purchases would mark the first time state environmental officials have used eminent domain on homesteaded property in Florida's environmental land-buying efforts, though some property owners beg to differ.

"What we now face are two homesteaded parcels remaining," Struhs said. "It's not like the Department of Transportation where we do two (condemnations) a day. We're doing two in four years."

Bush and fellow Cabinet members weren't swayed. Given the fact that more than 90 percent of the targeted land has been purchased and actual construction is years away, Cabinet members said they would be willing to work with Hardy and Miller to sweeten the deals.

"These people moved there for a reason to start with and that was to get out of town, out in the woods and it's a little tough on them," state Agriculture Secretary Charlie Bronson said. "I know we're going to have to do this to move this project, and I believe that can be accomplished. It may cost us a little more."

While taking pity on Hardy and Miller, Cabinet members had less sympathy for county officials, who they say are contributing to higher land costs in the region.

Florida environmental officials are trying to wrap up the last purchases in Southern Golden Gate Estates. Thursday, DEP officials requested the authority to make offers on some of the remaining parcels.

Bush and other members chose not to adopt the proposal after learning state officials are facing increasing competition from private bidders in Collier County.

Under the program, state land buyers are restricted in how much they can pay. On smaller purchases, for example, they can only pay $5,000 or up to 125 percent of the appraised value.

On at least one recent purchase attempt, private buyers outbid state officials, scooped up the property and immediately subdivided it with Collier County government's blessing — meaning the property then was worth more and it would cost the state more to buy it.

Now, what once was a single 5-acre parcel contains four parcels, the value of which has risen. Instead of paying the property owner for the loss of one house, state officials must pay for four such losses, even though the entire region has been slated to be flooded for at least the past two years.

"This is incredible," Bush said. "We're taking action to purchase land under a power that makes me queasy when the local government wants people to build homes."


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YOU DID IT FREEPERS. Jesse says that the Governors wastebasket was overflowing with letters. You should all be very proud of yourselves as you have done God's work once again by helping your neighbor.

That said, we have to stay vigilant, as this "decision" still has much ambiguity to it. They will be back as it sounds like everyone (from the Governor on down) is letting Jesse alone through their teeth. There's a certain "seething" to the cabinet's tone.

Attitude: - "Who do these uppity landowners (including the county) think they are, not rolling over for us and our pol-pals".

1 posted on 03/14/2003 5:20:33 AM PST by AAABEST
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Now, what once was a single 5-acre parcel contains four parcels, the value of which has risen. Instead of paying the property owner for the loss of one house, state officials must pay for four such losses, even though the entire region has been slated to be flooded for at least the past two years.

"This is incredible," Bush said. "We're taking action to purchase land under a power that makes me queasy when the local government wants people to build homes."

First, Congratulations to all those who helped. Second, it would be somewhat niave to not suspect some kind of conspiracy betwen the county (or more specifically, certain county officials) and the "speculators" to artificially drive up the land value in advance of the state's purchase. OTOH, all this is for an environmental project which, considering the condition of the environmental industry over the last several years, is nearly defacto evidence of fraud and waste.

2 posted on 03/14/2003 5:56:23 AM PST by lafroste
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To: TonyWojo; GladesGuru; countrydummy; AntiJen; DeBug=int13; Joe Brower; lucyblue; spokanite; ...
FROM ALL OF YOUR KEYBOARDS TO GOD'S EAR!

You all should be very, very proud of yourselves. Jesse wishes to thank everyone from the bottom of his heart, you have no idea what this means to him. Your letters, emails, support and prayers came in like a cavalry from heaven.

Huge victory for OUR LIBERTY.

God bless you all.... and he will.

3 posted on 03/14/2003 6:17:32 AM PST by AAABEST
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I dont think there is a real "conspiracy" to drive up the value(cost of purchase to the State) of the land, as some have speculated. There is great demand for land down there. Its a booming area. It seems the State wants to say that its desire for "conservation" should have influence over the county's desire for development and growth, and therefore, the County should somehow disallow property owners from subdividing and developing land.
4 posted on 03/14/2003 6:21:47 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: AAABEST

5 posted on 03/14/2003 6:21:49 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: AAABEST
Wow. Makes me glad I took the time -- I'm sure that everyone else feels the same. It feels great when the effort actually gets noticed and has some effect.

Looks like the Injuns have been beaten back, at least for now. You're right though -- this needs to be kept watch of, because you know the Collier policritters aren't going to give up. After all, they're paid to enact their home-grown brand of small-town tyranny.

Hey, maybe Jesse would want to come to one of our "fun shoots" on the other side of the canal -- what a way to celebrate this respite, eh? $;-)


6 posted on 03/14/2003 6:25:41 AM PST by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: AAABEST
Awwww. Not proud, just VERY thankful that the Lord saw fit to bless this guy with land that he 'loves'. It's now gonna be a battle between 'them' and God. HE doesn't seem to appreciate the idea of the 'big guys' moving the boundaries of the little guys.
7 posted on 03/14/2003 6:29:42 AM PST by mommadooo3
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To: AAABEST; AntiJen; Joe Brower; All
Gov. Jeb Bush and the Florida Cabinet on Thursday gave Hardy and fellow Southern Golden Gate Estates resident George Miller more time to negotiate with state officials, who want to acquire their lands. Hardy and Miller have refused to give up their homes to make way for an environmental restoration project that has both state and federal blessing. Instead of forcing the pair off their land through legal action, Cabinet members told Department of Environmental Protection Secretary David Struhs to go back to the homeowners with a better offer

This demonstrates FREEPER POWER in action!

Governor JEB (God Bless Him) even answered my email!

This is a huge victory thanks to the persistance of all who wrote, called & emailed!

8 posted on 03/14/2003 6:33:27 AM PST by JulieRNR21 (Take W-04........Across America!)
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To: AAABEST
This is great news. I'm very happy for Jesse and his son. We should thank Governor Bush for taking the time to read the letters and to personally check out the situation.
9 posted on 03/14/2003 6:37:35 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Can we paint all the Daisy Cutters and MOAB's kelly green for St. Patrick's Day????)
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To: AAABEST
God Bless *you* for your efforts in bringing this to our attention.

Great news, {{{{{AAABest}}}}} - thank-you for sharing and many thanks to Jeb Bush for listening.
10 posted on 03/14/2003 6:42:47 AM PST by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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To: AAABEST
BTTT!!!!!
11 posted on 03/14/2003 6:43:00 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: AAABEST

" EXCELLENT

12 posted on 03/14/2003 6:55:44 AM PST by TonyWojo
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To: AAABEST
I'm so glad this has worked out for now.. but it sure sounds like this is only a delay. Hopefully it will still work in Jesse's favor in the long run.
13 posted on 03/14/2003 7:18:57 AM PST by Jennifer in Florida
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To: AAABEST
Glad to help and to each who did, well done friends, well done.
14 posted on 03/14/2003 7:56:57 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: AAABEST
Perhaps Jesse can get help from Paralyzed Veterans of America. Info can be found at www.pva.org .Keep up the good work.
15 posted on 03/14/2003 8:00:49 AM PST by airborne
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To: AAABEST
Thank god, and GOOD FOR HIM.
16 posted on 03/14/2003 8:01:48 AM PST by KineticKitty (Government Philosophy = If it isn't broke, fix it till it is.)
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To: AAABEST
 
 
WoW
 
YEAH!
 
Been an interesting week. And the week's not over yet!
 
Maybe Mr. Hardy will have some blessed peace in his life - but still, I'd advise he snag every loose nickel and dime for a rainy-day war chest for if or when those bureaucratic pantloads get another brain fart.
 
 
 
 

17 posted on 03/14/2003 8:08:06 AM PST by DeBug=int13 ( BuMp ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !)
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To: *landgrab
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18 posted on 03/14/2003 8:10:21 AM PST by Free the USA (Stooge for the Rich)
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To: AAABEST
BUMP!
19 posted on 03/14/2003 8:30:50 AM PST by dansangel (America - love it, support it, or LEAVE IT!)
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To: AAABEST
"Huge victory for OUR LIBERTY."

Say it again, Brother....

20 posted on 03/14/2003 8:51:15 AM PST by F16Fighter (March 17th -- Operation: EXTERMINATE SADDAM)
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