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Britain Furious With France Over Iraq
ap wire ^
| 3/13/03
Posted on 03/13/2003 11:51:52 AM PST by knak
LONDON - The dispute between Britain and France over disarming Saddam Hussein exploded into open hostility Thursday, as furious British officials accused the French of all but ensuring there will be a war.
In shockingly blunt language for allies, British officials assailed their French counterparts for blocking efforts to set a deadline for Iraq to disarm. Britain accused France of rejecting its proposal without considering it.
"What I find extraordinary (is) that without even proper consideration the French government have decided that they will reject these proposals," said British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw.
Iain Duncan Smith, leader of the opposition Conservative Party, emerged from a meeting with Prime Minister Tony Blair to say war appeared likely because of France.
"He (Blair) made the reason for this as the fact that the French have become completely intransigent," he told journalists.
The attacks reflected Britain's anger with what it sees as a cynical French ploy aimed at creating a French-led counterweight to the United States in world affairs.
British officials contend privately that French President Jacque Chirac is also intent on preserving traditional lucrative commercial ties with Iraq, which he helped build in the 1970s.
The French deny it. They say their aim is peace, and French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin insisted Thursday that Paris wanted to work for consensus in the Security Council.
"Everything should be done to preserve the unity of the council, and that is what we are working toward," he said.
British officials were angry after de Villepin rejected a British proposal for a U.N. resolution outlining steps Saddam would have to follow to prove he was scrapping his weapons of mass destruction. Paris says Iraq can be disarmed peacefully and claims Britain and the United States just want a new U.N. resolution to launch a war.
"We cannot accept the British proposals insofar as they are part of a logic of war, a logic of automatic recourse to war," de Villepin said.
Britain, which is deeply divided over war with Iraq, appeared relieved to turn to bashing its traditional European rival. Anglo-French enmity stretches back centuries and belittling the French is a passionate British pastime, fully reciprocated by many French.
British newspapers joined in the attack Thursday, blasting the French as untrustworthy and selfish.
The Sun tabloid attacked France with a front-page headline saying, "Blair Buries Le Worm," its nickname for Chirac.
Some British officials predicted privately that public anger at the French could boost support for Blair, who faces strong opposition inside his Labor Party over his determination to back the United States even if it means attacking Iraq without U.N. approval. Most Britons don't want a war without U.N. approval, polls show.
Blair was increasingly resigned to war, said officials, although diplomatic efforts would continue for a few more days. The White House said Thursday it might agree to a brief delay of a U.N. vote to help secure an agreement.
The British anger with France is reflected in Washington, where U.S. officials have said Paris' threat to use its veto no matter what had sent the wrong message to Saddam.
British frustration and anger with France has been building for weeks.
Straw, normally noted for quiet courtesy, seemed to mock his French counterpart during a recent U.N. Security Council debate, ironically referring to him as "my friend Dominique" as de Villepin scowled.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: france; francophobia; french; weasels
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posted on
03/13/2003 11:51:52 AM PST
by
knak
To: knak
...Iain Duncan Smith, leader of the opposition Conservative Party, emerged from a meeting with Prime Minister Tony Blair to say war appeared likely because of France...
I really, really hope he meant war with france.
To: knak
The French deny it. They say their aim is peace . . .
To: knak
I knew this would happen. Everyone seems to forget that there is no love lost between the Brits and froggies. No love lost for that matter between the Brits and the continent as a whole. However this move by the Blair govt is way overdue...they should have been pointing out the obvious frog obstrction from the begining.
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posted on
03/13/2003 11:57:22 AM PST
by
Ga Rob
("Consensus is the ABSENCE of Leadership" The Iron Lady)
To: knak
Perhaps when returning from their triumph in Iraq the British army can take the scenic, overland route from Marseilles up through Paris and on to Calais...
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posted on
03/13/2003 11:58:14 AM PST
by
Doug Loss
To: First_Salute
Beware of Frenchmen bearing peace.
To: knak
The British should just fulfill an ages old dream by invading France and conquering it. Upon which the french of course would immediately surrender. Then the British could colonize and govern these french fools.
To: knak
Hail to Jack Straw who gave me the most enjoyable TV experience I've had in the last weeks!Dominique, you had it handed to you!
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posted on
03/13/2003 11:58:56 AM PST
by
MEG33
To: knak
France est tres inopportun.
(France is very irrelevant.) :)
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posted on
03/13/2003 12:02:54 PM PST
by
valleygal
To: First_Salute
"The French deny it. They say their aim is peace"
What would those worthless frogs know about aiming at anything! Cowards are what they are and their outright dangerous behaviour is going to blow up in their faces!!
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posted on
03/13/2003 12:08:22 PM PST
by
Arpege92
To: knak
French Products and Companies to Boycott
A list of French companies products to boycott. Some are well known, but many are not. Here goes.
The gang at FrogWeenies (www.metrospy.com) notes: "France's behavior in front of the UN has been disgraceful. Their attempts to block, veto and prevent the US lead military action in Iraq does not promote peace, it simply reinforces the will of tyrants and terrorists."
It lists French products to boycott. You will probably be surprised to learn the French own everything from Wild Turkey to Car & Driver to Motel 6 to cheesy Spencer Gifts to disgusting Democrat schlock-show host Jerry Springer.
Air France. Air Liquide. Airbus. Alcatel. Allegra (allergy medication). Aqualung (including :Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and SeaQuest). AXA Advisors
Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas). Beneteau (boats). BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin). BIC (razors, pens and lighters). Biotherm (cosmetics). Black Bush. Bollinger (champagne).
Car & Driver Magazine. Cartier. Chanel. Chivas Regal (scotch). Christian Dior. Club Med (vacations). Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods). DKNY. Dom Perignon. Durand Crystal
Elle Magazine. Essilor Optical Products. Evian.
Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil fields). First Hawaiian Bank.
George Magazine. Givenchy. Glenlivet (scotch).
Hennessy. Houghton Mifflin (books).
International Herald Tribune.
Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989). Jameson (whiskey). Jerry Springer (talk show)
Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
Lancome. Le Creuset (cookware). L'Oreal (health and beauty products). Louis Vuitton.
Marie Claire. Martel Cognac. Maybelline. Méphisto (shoes and clothes). Michelin (tires and auto parts). Mikasa (crystal and glass). Moet (champagne). Motel 6. Motown Records. MP3.com. Mumms (champagne).
Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault). Nivea. Normany Butter.
Parents Magazine. Peugeot (automobiles). Pierre Cardin. Playstation Magazine. ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France). Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
RCA (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics). Red Magazine. Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France). Renault (automobiles). Road & Track Magazine. Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France). Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.). Royal Canadian.
Salomon (skis). Seagram's Gin. Sierra Software and Computer Games. Smart & Final. Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor). Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone). Spencer Gifts. Sundance Channel.
Taylor Made (golf). Technicolor. T-Fal (kitchenware). Total gas stations.
UbiSoft (computer games). Uniroyal. Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks; owned by Vivendi-Universal). USFilter.
Veritas Group. Veuve Clicquot Champagne. Vittel. Vivendi.
Wild Turkey (bourbon). Woman's Day Magazine.
Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake). Yves Saint Laurent.
Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
Please add to the list and email to your like-minded friends.
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posted on
03/13/2003 12:12:27 PM PST
by
schaketo
To: knak
FRUCK FANCE.
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posted on
03/13/2003 12:12:37 PM PST
by
Uncle Miltie
(Wheat is Murder! (Tilling slaughters worms.....))
To: knak
Does anyone think that France's insulting refusal to even consider Blair's proposal will help Blair garner more support in the UK for going in without the UN?
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posted on
03/13/2003 12:14:51 PM PST
by
kevao
To: schaketo
FINA oil also operates under the name TOTAL
To: knak
Hmmm...All the French want is peace?
I don't remember them calling for peace in the Yugoslavia matter. Oh wait, there was no financial incentive for peace there.
Oh, those peaceloving French!
To: kevao
Does anyone think that France's insulting refusal to even consider Blair's proposal will help Blair garner more support in the UK for going in without the UN? Absolutely! The British public is getting more and more on board, an almost singlehanded accomplishment by Chirac.
To: schaketo
Looks like I just switched from Michellin to Bridgestone tires.
To: schaketo
According to Time Magazine (I know, I know), the boycott is having almost no impact on French companies.
To: Calpublican
I'm not seeing that yet. The UK public opinion poll reported on Fox News last night was dismal -- if I recall correctly, Blair had something like 16% of the public behind him. He has a long way to go.
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posted on
03/13/2003 12:22:14 PM PST
by
kevao
To: kevao
I must have misheard. I thought something like 75% was with. Must have been the other way around. Maybe it's time to get that Alzheimers test.
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