FrontierPost.pk: Mulla Omar, two Osama sons arrested (here we go again)

Even though the Frontier Post aspires to debka.com's level of credibility (/sarcarsm), I thought I'd post this story. They are well known for exaggerating and this appears to be more of the same. They've spiced up yesterday's news with the claim that Mullah Omar was captured, too.

Actually, the Frontier Post is the most credible of all Pakistan's rags.

Mike don't totally discount this article. I have been on some Pakistani news sites today and there are raids taking place all over the NWFP.

Mansoor Ijez was on Fox earlier saying he has a source in Pakistan who say's that we got Saad Laden..

March 8, 2003 issue of PakToday.com - PAKISTAN TODAY:

"Two of Osama bin Laden's Sons Reportedly Captured in Afghanistan

By: Kathy Gannon
ISLAMABAD: (AP) A top Pakistani provincial police official said Friday that a U.S.-led raid in southwestern Afghanistan killed seven al-Qaida men and wounded eight others — including two sons of Osama bin Laden. U.S. officials disputed the report. Sanaullah Zehri, home minister of Baluchistan province and the region's top security official, said the allied raid occurred near Rabat, an area where the borders of Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan converge.

He said on Pakistani television and told The Associated Press that bin Laden's sons Saad and Hamza were captured and were in the hospital in Rabat being treated for wounds. After reports of the raid were challenged by U.S., Afghan and Pakistani officials, Zehri told AP, "I am getting my information from my sources and this is what I have heard." Zehri, who spoke by telephone from Quetta, the Baluchistan provincial capital, said no Pakistani forces were involved in the raid.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer played down the claims, saying: "We have no information to substantiate that report." Col. Roger King, a U.S. military spokesman at Bagram Air Base, said he could not confirm reports about bin Laden's sons and denied U.S. and other coalition forces were involved in any operation in Rabat. "As far as I know there is no involvement of any forces belonging to CJTF-180," King told AP. "As far as I know we don't have anybody operating in that vicinity." CJTF-180 is the military acronym for coalition joint forces in Afghanistan.

In Washington, U.S. counterterrorism officials strongly disputed the reports. They said they had no information to suggest the sons had been detained. Afghanistan's Interior Ministry spokesman, Mohammed Daoud, said he was unaware of a Rabat operation. "We have no information on this," he said in the Afghan capital, Kabul.

However, Nafaas Khan, deputy inspector of police in Afghanistan's Nimroz province where Rabat is located, said U.S. helicopters were seen over the town Friday. He said he had no information about bin Laden's sons. Pakistani journalists who tried to get to Rabat on Friday were stopped by Pakistani security officers at Noshgi, about 240 miles from Rabat. One Pakistani journalist quoted an Afghan security official just returned from Rabat as confirming that Saad bin Laden had been caught up in the operation, but said he had no information about a second son.

Zehri said the Baluchistan provincial government sealed its borders with Afghanistan to prevent al-Qaida members escaping into Pakistan. Searches for Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida operatives have intensified since the capture last weekend of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the suspected No. 3 man in al-Qaida and planner of the Sept. 11 attacks. Pakistani intelligence and security officials say joint U.S. and Pakistani forces have been scouring Baluchistan province, chasing down leads from Mohammed. There were also reports of search missions being conducted in northwestern Pakistan on the border with Afghanistan to flush out al-Qaida.

Saad bin Laden, believed to be 23 years old and Osama bin Laden's eldest son, is also on the American most-wanted list and has been called a rising star in the terror network. Osama bin Laden is believed to have as many as 23 sons by several wives."

http://www.paktoday.com

fyi....

I saw the always-credible Ijaz too, on Fox this afternoon. Ya gotta think we have Saad or someone way up there. Really odd that this story won't die, despite all the denials.

Is Saad the one who is married to the daughter of scumbag Mohommed Atef?

The al-Qaeda leader is believed to have up to 23 sons by several wives.

Which is another reason he is known as "f***ing Usama."

I think he is...

But the funny thing is .......no one is denying the story.....they just can't confirm it.

This all comes down to Mushraeff(sp) said Bin Laden isn't in Pakistan..... will one of his General's make him into a liar..

I always thought that the Frontier Post was one of Pakistan's less reputable dailies.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

odd that the story won't die

My read is that we have some folks captured who may be or probably are some "big fish" but their identity has not been confirmed with DNA tests or other definitive evidence.

Presumably our team dosen't want to claim victory until they are sure they have the right guys.

One of two things dog,either we don't want three dead martyrs or we don't want to pay 75 M $ to someone that might funnel that money right back to quida.Something is going on alright,we will just have to wait and see./

If there is confirmation on any of these arrests let me know, I would love to update the scorecard with these guys.

Updated 03/08/03:

Its the Terrorist Scumbag Scorecard

Name	Function	Status

SHURA MAJLIS
These are the first-tier guys and the actual members of al-Qaeda's board of directors. Any one of them is a possible successor to Osama bin Laden.
Osama bin Laden	Emir-General	Possibly killed at Tora Bora in Dec. 2001, now believed to be at large
Ayman al-Zawahiri	Second-in-Command/Egyptian Islamic Jihad Emir	At Large
Mohammed Atef	Supreme Military Commander	Dead
Abu Zubaydah	Global Operations Chief	Apprehended
Rifa Ahmed Taha	Gamaa al-Islamiyyah Secretary-General	At Large
Thirwat Salah Shirhata	Egyptian Islamic Jihad Deputy Emir	At Large
Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri	Middle East Operations Chief	Apprehended
Abu Musab Zarqawi	Former Southeast Asian Operations Chief, currently Global Operations Chief	At Large
Abu Zubair al-Haili	North African Operations Chief	Apprehended
Tawfiq Attash Khallad	Leader of USS Cole Operation	At Large
Omar Al-Farouq	South Asian Operations Chief	Apprehended
Abu Mohammed al-Masri *	East African Operations Chief	At Large
Zaid Khayr	Operations Chief	At Large
Mohammed Salah	Senior Explosive Expert, Central African Operations Chief	Dead
Tariq Anwar al-Sayyid Ahmad	Balkans Operations Chief	Dead
Saif al-Adel	Former second-in-command of al-Qaeda's military, currently Supreme Military Commander	At Large
Amin al-Haq	Shura Majlis Security Chief	At Large
Abu Hafs the Mauritanian (aka "Mr. Mauritania")	Theologian	Formerly believed dead, now believed to be at large

TERRORIST TRAINING CAMP COMMANDERS
These are the guys who supervise the training, indoctrination, and assignment of al-Qaeda operatives worldwide. They also seperate all recruits into four categories: mujahideen (foot soldiers), shahideen (suicide bombers), takfiri (sleepers), and ansar (support personnel). Each category has its own version of the "Afghan Guide to Jihad," al-Qaeda's training manual (all four versions combined are roughly 3,000 pages in length) that provides instruction to recruits for just about any situation imaginable.
Sheikh Ibn al-Liby	Terrorist Training Camp Commander	Apprehended
Abd al-Hadi al-Iraqi	Terrorist Training Camp Commander	Apprehended
Omar Bandon	Terrorist Training Camp Commander	At Large

THE FINANCIAL COMMITTEE
This is the committee that oversees al-Qaeda's legitimate and illegitimate businesses, charities, drug smuggling, ect. The top ten al-Qaeda donors have all been named by both the UN and the families of 9/11 victims as being the major financiers of al-Qaeda and remain at large
Sheikh Saeed (Mustafa Ahmed al-Hisawi?)	Head of the Financial Committee	Apprehended
Mohammed Jamal Khalifa	Financier and envoy to the Saudi Bin Laden Group	At Large
Abu Jafar al-Jaziri	Financier	Dead
Abu Salah al-Yemeni	Financier	Dead
Abdul Rahim Riyadh	Financier	Apprehended
Ahmed Saeed al-Kadr	Financier	At Large
Saad al-Sharif	Financier / OBL's Brother in Law	At Large
Hamza al-Qatari	Financier	Dead

MEDIA COMMITTEE
This the group that manages and updates the websites, oversees the E-Jihad, and is responsible for all statements by the al-Qaeda leadership. Not a lot of declassified info on this one as far as names go.
Suleiman Abu Ghaith	Spokesman	At Large
Sheikh Abu Hamza al-Masri	Spokesman/Recruiter	At Large
Sheikh Omar al-Bakri	Spokesman	At Large
Sheikh Abu Qatada al-Philisteeni	Spokesman	Apprehended

WMD COMMITTEE
Al-Qaeda employs a number of Muslim scientists of various nationalities to assist it in procuring as well as manufacturing the necessary materials to create chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear weapons.
Midhat Mursi	Top scientist for nuclear weapons research	At Large
Abu Khabab	Biological and chemical weapons expert	At Large
Assadalah Abdul Rahman	Weapons of Mass Destruction Chief	At Large
Abu Bashir al-Yemeni	Unknown	At Large

MILITARY COMMITTEE
These are the definite guys to watch out for. Most have a great deal of combat experience either from serving in Arab militaries or else from fighting in Sudan, Bosnia, Kosovo, Chechnya, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Indonesia, or the Philippines.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed	Martyrdom Battalion Commander-in-Chief	Apprehended
Abd al-Aziz al-Jamal	Unknown - Thought to be Atef's Successor	At Large
Bilal bin Marwan	Arabian Sea Commander-in-Chief	At Large
Qaed Salim Sinan al-Harethi	Yemen Commander-in-Chief	Dead
Mohsen al-Fadli	Kuwait Commander-in-Chief	Apprehended
Essid Sami ben Khemais	Southern Europe Commander-in-Chief	Apprehended
Saqar al-Jadawi	Unknown	At Large
Mohammed Omar Abdel Rahman	Military Commander	Apprehended
Ahmed Omar Abdel Rahman	Military Commander	Apprehended
Abu Walid	Military Commander	At Large
Abdel Hari al-Iraqi	Afghanistan Commander-in-Chief	At Large
Abu Leith al-Lybi	Algeria/Libya Commander-in-Chief	At Large
Shamil Basayev	Chechnya Commander-in-Chief	At Large
Amir ibn al-Khattab	Dagestan Commander-in-Chief	Dead
Hanbali	Indonesia Commander-in-Chief	At Large
Imam Samudra	Java Commander-in-Chief	Apprehended
Mas Selamat Kastari	Singapore Commander-in-Chief	Apprehended

Others
These are non-leader Al Qaeda members who are on the FBI most wanted list or have, in some way, come to attention..
Mullah Omar	Supreme Leader of the Taliban	At Large
Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Sheik Mohammed Al Hasan Al-Moayad	Financier / Cleric	Apprehended
Mohammed Mohsen Yahya Zayed	Financier / Cleric	Apprehended
Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser	Khobar Towers Bomber	At Large
Muhsin Musa Matwalli Atwah	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ali Atwa	Flight 847 (Lebanon) Hijacker	At Large
Hasan Izz-Al-Din	Flight 847 (Lebanon) Hijacker	At Large
Anas Al-Liby	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ahmed Mohammed Hamed Ali	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Fazul Abdullah Mohammed	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Imad Fayez Mugniyah	Flight 847 (Lebanon) Hijacker	At Large
Mustafa Mohamed Fadhil	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Abdul Rahman Yasin**	1993 WTC Bombing	At Large
Fahid Mohammed Ally Msalam	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ahmad Ibrahim Al-Mughassil	Khobar Towers Bomber	At Large
Muhammad Atef	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ali Saed Bin Ali El-Hoorie	Khobar Towers Bomber	At Large
Saif Al-Adel	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ibrahim Salih Mohammed Al-Yacoub	African Embassy Bomber	At Large
Ramzi bin Al-Shibh	Planner and Organizer of Sept. 11 attacks	Apprehended
Zacarias Moussaoui	September 11 Conspirator	Apprehended
Saad bin Laden	Spawn of Satan	Believed to be Apprehended
Hamza bin Laden	Spawn of Satan	Believed to be Apprehended
Zakariya Essabar	September 11 Cell Member in Hamburg w/Atta	At Large
Said Bahaji	September 11 Cell Member in Hamburg w/Atta	At Large
Mujib Susukan	Abu Sayyaf Commander	Dead

Note: There has been some contradictory information as to the status of this individual. Abu Mohammed al-Masri is a nom de guerre, hence one should not confuse him with the al-Qaeda functionary of the same name who was recently killed in Algeria working with the GSPC. Mossad reportedly had intelligence that al-Masri might have been one of the suicide bombers involved in the al-Qaeda attack in Mombasa, but near as I can tell the findings were not corroborated *Currently "at large" because he was released by the Clinton Justice Department after "cooperating" in the investigation of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. It turns out that he was actually an Iraqi intelligence agent, and is believed to have fled to Baghdad.

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SOMETHING must be up... probably NOT what we are told has happened... but something useful perhaps.

Wow would that be something getting one eyed Omar.

My impression is that the USA is very unhappy about this information getting out to the public YET!!

If true, this is hugh...

This story will not die will it??

getting one eyed Omar.

Is it like holding a one eyed Jack??

:-)

getting one eyed Omar.

Is it like holding a one eyed Jack??

:-)

Thinking of a high-profile, reciprocal 'snatching'?

That was the first thing that popped into my mind, regarding the denials of their identity. Very dangerous to have person(s) like these alive and in custody.