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Alter has spoken. Guess the war's off. </sarcasm>
1 posted on 03/08/2003 7:23:01 AM PST by Dont Mention the War
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To: Dont Mention the War
why does asshole come to mind
2 posted on 03/08/2003 7:25:21 AM PST by The Wizard (Demonrats are enemies of America)
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To: Dont Mention the War
Johnathan Alter is either dead right or dead wrong, and we won't know until Iraq is liberated. If he has any character he will write a post-liberation article where he either eats crow or kisses the feet of President Bush.
3 posted on 03/08/2003 7:26:04 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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Thanks to AM for fixing my stupid mistake of not clicking the "Excerpt" button to provide a link back to the rest of the article.
4 posted on 03/08/2003 7:29:06 AM PST by Dont Mention the War ("Quinnipiac" - Native American for "Big Smelly Compost Heap of RAT Dung")
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What Alter doesn't realize is that Bush doesn't care about dimwits who can't already see that the war is justified.

This is one of the reasons why Bush was weirdly soft-spoken. He is going to use the big stick whether Alter likes it or not. And in a metaphorical sense, Alter will soon find that it's being used against him.

IMHO, journalists like Alter are the enemies of America. Free speech is beside the point. One's nature as an enemy is often revealed by what one says.

5 posted on 03/08/2003 7:29:34 AM PST by the_doc
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To: Dont Mention the War
Another Chrissy Matthews ignorant rat attitude.
6 posted on 03/08/2003 7:38:37 AM PST by dc-zoo
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To: Dont Mention the War
This is just shrill fill for the latest edition to this rag. We are way past debate and discussion over whether disarming Iraq by force and affecting regime change there is the right thing to do. That was the President's message during his press conference. He set the appropriate tone and delivered the message he needed to deliver. It was not set up as a debating match. Alter and his ilk need to get over it, but, of course, they won't. People are either on one side of the issue or the other, and I doubt any more talk will change attitudes or perceptions. It's time to act.
7 posted on 03/08/2003 7:39:45 AM PST by TADSLOS (Sua Sponte)
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Jonathan Alter offers a classic demonstration of the difference between "stupid" and "ignorant." He is NOT stupid, meaning that he is incapable of learning new facts. He IS ignorant, meaning that he rejects all facts which would disturb his world-view, such as it is.

He is one of a long list of people who ought to be, along with Jacques Chirac, forced to go to the first location where the 101st Airborne finds a vat of Hussein's chemicals in a vat in a basement, and have his nose shoved down in the fumes. Then he can say, with Chirac, "Vraiment, je suis un idiot" ("Truly, I am an idiot.")

This precise subject is the theme of my latest column on UPI, first link below.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, now up on UPI, and FR, "Truth, the First Casualty?"

Latest book(let), "to Restore Trust in America."

10 posted on 03/08/2003 7:52:58 AM PST by Congressman Billybob
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Why should anybody care who's made the case for what? If the President couldn't convince anybody that the sky was blue it really wouldn't change the fact the sky is blue.
11 posted on 03/08/2003 7:53:27 AM PST by MattAMiller
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To: Dont Mention the War
Either a bloomin' idiot or a U.S. subversive abetting the destruction of Americans and their families.

Wonder how dense this writer must be if he cannot understand that terrorists are seeking a means to attack the U.S. with nuclear/chemical/biological weapons. Saddam is building and amassing tons of these materials and hates the U.S.

Wonder if this writer could possibly figure out that the easiest way for Saddam to take down America is to supply these weapons he produces to the terrorists that can carry them to the U.S.?

This also holds true for the rabid democrats like Ted Kennedy, Tom Daschle that just cannot grasp that we are targets, that we need to solve this problem, that they are putting the lives of our families, our future, and our country in danger because of their stupidity, their anti-American goals, their politics or any combination of these.

Why would I ever vote for a Democrat seeing how little regard they have for the safety of this country, me, my family and the future of America?


12 posted on 03/08/2003 7:56:52 AM PST by ClancyJ
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Dont forget to vote on the article and tell Jonathan how you feel....I gave him a 1
13 posted on 03/08/2003 7:59:00 AM PST by woofie
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I'd never forget the face of poor johnny Alter during the 2000 prez lection..he thought AlGone had the price, then we all know what happen the nite...he just looked like a ghoul, a zombie, his face was ash gray, looked like he had all his life drained out from him...lol

he is still bitter after the AlGone's lost...and sorry, if we go in and find all the stuff, we he publically eat a spoonful of anthrax...now, that's priceless...
15 posted on 03/08/2003 8:18:10 AM PST by FRgal4u
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To: Dont Mention the War
Alter has once again failed to make a case for his existence!
21 posted on 03/08/2003 9:47:02 AM PST by marvlus
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Jonathan Alter fell for a Condit girlfriend impersonator,when he was a guest on the Imus show-the bit was hysterical, because her claims were so over the top and Alter bought it hook,line and sinker. This is from the mediaresearch.org website-

" WARNING: Though everything in this item aired during the 8am EDT hour on MSNBC, some readers may be offended by the crude sexual innuendo.]

A gullible Jonathan Alter of Newsweek was fooled by a joke appearance on Imus in the Morning by a pretend "Anne Marie Smith," the flight attendant who says Gary Condit asked her to sign a false affidavit.

Alter, who defended Clinton against calls that he should resign, later argued that in Condit’s case: "Everybody should be calling for him to resign, whether he had anything to do with her disappearance or not. In a real serious matter he was not straight-forward."

On Thursday’s Imus in the Morning radio show simulcast on MSNBC, during the appearance by phone of a woman pretending to be Smith, she made some pretty wild claims, such as how Condit’s blow-dried hair "turned me on," that Condit asked her to take showers with him while she wore a Barney Frank mask as she bent over to pick up soap, that under his bed she found "a limited edition ‘Malibu Barbie S&M Collection,’" that she believes black hairs she saw in Condit’s bathroom belonged to Michael Jackson, that during sex Condit played Jackson’s song ‘Billie Jean’ while making "high-pitched noises" and that she has an agent working to get her on the next Survivor series.

A few minutes later, Alter scolded the supposed Anne Marie Smith: "She’s turning this thing into a farce. It’s not like a normal sex case, we’re talking about a young woman’s life." But he believed "a lot of what she said could very well be true."

MRC analyst Ken Shepherd alerted me to the events on the July 12 show, starting at about 8:15am EDT with an appearance by phone of "Anne Marie Smith" in a not very funny comedy bit during which viewers saw Imus at his New Mexico ranch studio and his on-air colleagues behind microphones at WFAN in New York City.

Some of "Anne Marie Smith’s" recollections, starting with how they met on a flight: "I gave him a hot towel and he asked me if I wanted a hot sausage." She found him attractive because "there’s something about that blow-dried hair. It just turned me on."

-- "One of his obsessions is with Congressman Barney Frank and I always thought that was a little strange. One time he bought me this rubber mask. Imus, it looked just like him and asked me to take a shower with him wearing this mask. He kept dropping the soap and asking me to pick it up..."

-- Under Condit’s bed she found "a limited edition ‘Malibu Barbie S&M Collection’ and the ‘Bend Me Over Ken’ line."

-- Imus: "What, what about the hair that you found in the bathroom?"
"Smith": "Okay, I have my own theory about this hair. It’s very strange, though. A long black hair, wavy hair. I really think it belongs to Michael Jackson. I mean, let me just say, okay, this sounds weird but he had an obsession with Michael Jackson also. He had all of his albums. ‘Billy Jean’ is his favorite song. He’d always play it during sex and make these high-pitched noises. It was so weird. And then I found these left-handed gloves that were stained all over the apartment one time..."

-- "And by the way I have been contacted by CBS. I may be going on their next Survivor show. I’m just not sure yet at this point. I’ve got an agent and you know we’re going to see, maybe Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire could call me or I just, you know, I don’t know, we’ll see."

Ten minutes later, at just past 8:30am EDT, Imus talked with Alter on the phone. Alter’s first words: "That was a mind-blowing interview. I mean, I didn’t know what to make of it. What did you think?"
Imus: "With Anne Marie Smith?"
Alter: "Yeah."
Imus: "I thought she was jerking my chain on the Barney Frank mask frankly."
Alter: "She wants to go on Survivor?"

Alter soon reprimanded her: "I mean, she’s turning this thing into a farce. It’s not like a normal sex case, we’re talking about a young woman’s life."
Imus: "Well, I understand that."
Alter: "It’s just very peculiar. But she certainly gave everybody a lot of new angles. Michael Jackson’s hair?"
Imus: "Well, I do think that sometimes when people appear on this program they think they have to say funny things. But I do think that most of the other things she had to say were, obviously, I do think we are going to find out before this whole thing is over that some sort of weird sex has something to do with it."
Alter: "A lot of what she said could very well be true..."

Alter proceeded to recount a story in that morning’s Washington Post about a minister who claims his daughter had an affair with Condit when she was 18.

Imus then tried to clue in Alter: "Let me ask you something Jonathan. Did you think that was really Anne Marie Smith?"
Alter, realizing he’d been fooled: "Mmmm, no. I wasn’t sure. I just caught the end of it to tell you the truth. So, I didn’t know what it was. You know, that’s the problem with the show, it’s hard to know. She’s coming forward. She’s saying a lot of pretty amazing stuff."
Imus: "It was Kristi (sp?) out in the newsroom, Jonathan."
Alter: "It was Kristi. Alright, you had me. That’s what happens when you jump out of the shower."
Imus: "You really are just a moron."

Alter later conceded: "Sorry, you got me. That’s what happens when life imitates art in America."

Alter reflected a bit of a different attitude toward Condit than he had toward Bill Clinton: "I just know that at this point, that Condit should resign. Because at a minimum, he was obstructing an investigation."
Imus: "By lying."
Alter: "By lying to the police."

He soon added: "Everybody should be calling for him to resign, whether he had anything to do with her disappearance or not. In a real serious matter, he was not straight-forward."

A new standard for Alter. A couple of years ago a certain politician who was "obstructing an investigation" and was not being "straight-forward" didn’t prompt Alter to call for his resignation. "



24 posted on 03/08/2003 11:08:50 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Dont Mention the War
All we have to remember about Jonathan Alter is this quote from February 8, 1999 in the aftermath of the impeachment wars:

"(Reporter Michael Isikoff unearthed the whole story, but NEWSWEEK didn't have enough confirmation to publish it yet.)" The Fallout, Newsweek 02/08/1999

25 posted on 03/08/2003 11:49:58 AM PST by an amused spectator
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"Smart diplomacy is about preventing other countries from embarrassment, not causing it."


Mabey, in some situations but not this one. Trying to save France, Germany and Russia from embarrassment was like trying to keep the Titanic from sinking. These fools picked the wrong time to show superiority in the Europe community. Their lack of support for this war with Iraq boils down to financial interests but they use other excuses as to why they don't want war.

They brought it on themselves but the liberals will never believe this. I guess the American liberals really do have alot in common with France, Germany and Russia!

29 posted on 03/08/2003 5:34:57 PM PST by Arpege92
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