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North Korean Fliers Said to Have Sought Hostages
The New York Times ^ | 03/08/03 | ERIC SCHMITT

Posted on 03/07/2003 7:52:32 PM PST by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, March 7 — The North Korean fighter jets that intercepted an unarmed American spy plane over the Sea of Japan last weekend were trying to force the aircraft to land in North Korea and take its crew hostage, a senior defense official said today.

One of the four North Korean MIG's came within 50 feet of the American plane, an Air Force RC-135S Cobra Ball aircraft, and the pilot made internationally recognized hand signals to the American flight crew to follow him, presumably back to his home base, the official said.

The American crew members ignored the gesture commands, aborted the surveillance mission in international airspace about 150 miles off the North Korean coast, and returned safely to their home base at Kadena Air Base in Japan.

The official offered no explanation as to why the North Korean fighters did not take further action once the American plane aborted its mission and turned back toward its base.

The new details of the incident emerged during a day in which North Korea declared a three-day maritime exclusion zone in the Sea of Japan, signaling its intention to test fire a missile. Pentagon officials said it was virtually the same area in which North Korea tested an anti-ship missile on February 25.

Details about the intercept, which came to light after military officials interviewed the flight crew, suggest that the more than 15 Americans aboard faced greater peril than was previously known. Ignoring a fighter pilot's order to land, even in international airspace, could have led to the plane's downing, military officials said today.

"Clearly, it appears their intention was to divert the aircraft to North Korea, and take it hostage," the official said.

The disclosure of what appeared to have been a plan to force down the aircraft came during a broad-ranging interview about the North Korean nuclear crisis with the senior Defense Department official.

In April 2001, a United States Navy surveillance plane collided with a Chinese fighter that was closely tailing it. The plane, an American EP-3E, was forced to make an emergency landing on Hainan island in China. The 24-member crew was detained for 11 days.

Pentagon officials have acknowledged they were caught off guard by the intercept on Saturday night — Sunday morning in Korea — and did not scramble American fighters during the 22 minutes the North Korean jets tailed the four-engine Air Force reconnaissance plane. North Korea's air force is so strapped for fuel and spare parts, its pilots fly only about 13 hours of training missions a year, and rarely stray from their home skies.

Despite the growing tensions over North Korea's push to build a nuclear arsenal, there has not been a serious aerial confrontation between the two countries since North Korea shot down an unarmed American EC-121 reconnaissance plane in 1969, killing 31 American airmen.

For these reasons, Pentagon officials say there is little doubt that the North Korean mission was a well-planned operation that used its top pilots flying two MIG-29's and two MIG-23's.

Pentagon officials acknowledged that there was no way to be certain of the North Korean plan to divert the American plane to the North. There were no radio communications between the aircraft.

They added that the North Korean jets had not "locked on" to the American surveillance plane with their firing radar, as initially suspected — apparently because they were carrying heat-seeking missiles that did not require "fire-control radar" to guide the weapons to their targets.

Nonetheless, officials at the Pentagon and the United States Pacific Command in Hawaii are working out details of plans to protect the reconnaissance flights when they resume shortly. Officials said they were balancing the need to ensure the crew's safety and not be intimidated by the North Koreans, while trying to avoid steps that could unintentionally set off hostilities.

Military officials said that American fighters would not closely escort unarmed reconnaissance planes, but could fly patrols near by. One senior military official said that the Navy might dispatch one of its Aegis-class cruisers to the Sea of Japan to provide early warning of any North Korean flights.

The Cobra Ball reconnaissance planes are highly specialized military versions of a Boeing 707 that monitor ballistic-missile launchings and provide early warning of any firings.

In addition to the shooting down of the EC-121 aircraft in 1969, four North Korean patrol boats seized the Navy intelligence ship Pueblo in January 1968. In response, President Lyndon B. Johnson sent two squadrons of fighter planes to South Korea, called up 15,000 Air Force and Navy reservists and ordered the aircraft carrier Enterprise to a position about 200 miles off the North Korean coast. The Pueblo's 82 crew members were released in December of that year, but the North Koreans kept the ship.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aircraft; airforce; aviation; cobraball; forcedlanding; hostages; isolatedincidents; maritimeexclusion; migs; missiles; missiletest; missiletests; nk; nkmigs; northkorea; northkoreanmigs; plane; rc135s; reconplane; seaofjapan; spyplane; terrorism
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1 posted on 03/07/2003 7:52:32 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
looks like the KN commies learned well from the Chinese commies.
2 posted on 03/07/2003 7:53:44 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Texas_Jarhead
KN = NK
3 posted on 03/07/2003 7:55:42 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Pokey78
"the pilot made internationally recognized hand signals to the American flight crew"

I would bet the flight crew made a different 'internationally recognized hand signal' right back at them.....
4 posted on 03/07/2003 8:01:45 PM PST by tarawa
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To: Pokey78
Pardon me if this is a stupid question, but why do we allow these very precious surveillance aircraft, this one and the one the Red Chinese took, to fly solo without fighter escort.

I know they're flying in international airspace, but the Commies don't respect it, and these planes make very tempting targets for them. I would give fighter escorts, so the Commies are kept a safe distance away.

Do you send your relatives to bad neighborhood alone? No, you go with them and pack heat. So should the USAF & USN.
5 posted on 03/07/2003 8:01:52 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: Pokey78
These guys are really asking for the crap to be bombed out of them, aren't they? After what happened with China, I don't think that landing in NK would have been an option. Either get to SK or ditch. Then, throw the fighters in the sky and finish off each and every nuclear plant.
6 posted on 03/07/2003 8:03:14 PM PST by July 4th
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To: Pokey78
china = North Korea = commies = both are the enemy!
7 posted on 03/07/2003 8:06:41 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
They didn't learn very well. It's a different proposition forcing down a large four-engined jet over the Sea of Japan than a small turboprop aircraft over the South China Sea. For one thing, help was a thousand miles closer.
8 posted on 03/07/2003 8:09:05 PM PST by jimtorr
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To: tomahawk
Imagine if they got that plane, what technology they would transfer.
9 posted on 03/07/2003 8:09:24 PM PST by CJ Wolf (Cobra Balls needs protection)
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To: Pokey78
They were most likely looking for FOOD.
10 posted on 03/07/2003 8:09:55 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, Where's your brothers ElCamino?)
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To: tarawa
The crew aboard the RC-130 made internationally recognized hand signals to their Mig pursuers.

Which enflamed tensions resulting in the splashing of a Mig.

The others turned back to base.

11 posted on 03/07/2003 8:10:48 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Pokey78
Hmmmm?? Looks like I was right - their stunt was a dry run.
12 posted on 03/07/2003 8:11:34 PM PST by CyberAnt ( -> -> -> Oswego!!)
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To: tarawa
LOL.
13 posted on 03/07/2003 8:11:41 PM PST by Right Brother
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To: jimtorr
ok, I stand corrected. They learned but not well. Better?
14 posted on 03/07/2003 8:12:12 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Pokey78
In April 2001, a United States Navy surveillance plane collided with a Chinese fighter that was closely tailing it.

Let's see, was the editor asleep at the switch (preposition at end of sentence), or was the editor happy with the inference that the U.S. plane hit the fighter, and not the other way around? Tough one.

15 posted on 03/07/2003 8:12:36 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: jimtorr
. . . small turboprop aircraft . . .

Small? I think you may be hearing from some P-3 Orion crew members.

16 posted on 03/07/2003 8:14:27 PM PST by leadpenny
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To: Pokey78
Pentagon officials have acknowledged they were caught off guard by the intercept on Saturday night

There was absolutely NO EXCUSE for this stupidity of having no fighter escort

Sure as hell doesn't fill me with confidence in our leaders
17 posted on 03/07/2003 8:14:37 PM PST by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: 1rudeboy
You don't know anything, do you?

The U.S.'s nimble, high-performance hegemonous recon plane made a "big left move" before Wang Wei could move his slow, lumbering fighter jet out of the way.

You are obviously a running dog lackey of the Bowery Street billionaires.

18 posted on 03/07/2003 8:15:47 PM PST by American Soldier
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To: Pokey78
I'm not trying to underestimate th North Koreans, but the threats they make are just plain stupid. They obviously have no grasp of American thinking. They wallow in lameness.
19 posted on 03/07/2003 8:16:05 PM PST by Spruce
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To: uncbob
If the Pentagon got caught with their pants down on this one, what are they going to do when we do Iraq? Has affirmative action completely ruined the military brass?
20 posted on 03/07/2003 8:16:52 PM PST by tomahawk
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