Posted on 03/07/2003 7:35:36 AM PST by scripter
Fistgate IV will be held again on March 15 to teach teenagers how to play with the sexual organs of other students.
The first Fistgate was in 2000 and caused waves of protests from parents and others. It was exposed by the Parents Rights Coalition which taped part of the scandal so that people would finally understand what was happening, and by MassNews which reported it.
The homosexual community has said that its agenda was badly damaged by the scandal. It was almost unable to find a location for the event in 2001, but Tufts University finally did let them use its facilities again.
The sponsor of the event, GLSEN, an acronym for Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network, says that the purpose of Fistgate is to teach safety and respect. But the event that was taped in 2000 went on for 55 minutes about explicit forms of homosexual sex, including thrusting your fist into another's rectum, before anything was even mentioned about condoms in the last five minutes.
Four years later in 2003, the Gay/Straight Alliance at Newton North High School, with the help of the state Dept, of Education, is handing out leaflets to students arriving at the school, which ask questions such as, "If you have never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know that you wouldn't prefer that?"
It lists BAGLY as a resource for the teenagers to contact. In 1999, which was before Fistgate, MassNews reported that BAGLY offered $25 and free dinner to boys who would come to their headquarters in Boston and discuss homosexual sex and other issues. The boys were also invited to a free, three-day, lakeside, weekend retreat in New Hampshire with other "boys" up to 25-years, who are "attracted to or have sex with other men."
The following is printed on the Newton High pamphlets: "This project is supported by a grant from the Massachusetts Department of Education."
The state has been paying more than $1.5 million/year to help the Gay/Straight Alliances in the schools and similar activities. It is impossible to discover how much money is now going to those projects. Some of the money always went to GLSEN and it is assumed that much of it still does. <
Author: Ingo Schmitt LastAuthor: Ingo Schmitt Revision: 6 Created: 2002-05-27 20:30:00 LastSaved: 2002-05-28 01:57:00
It's a filthy job but I suppose someone has to do it.
It just might. But madg stating the site hasn't been updated in three years simply isn't true. And investigating GLSEN? Well, that's an excellent idea.
No?! Then how do you explain the following?
To: DeathfromBelow
From Network Solutions:
Domain ID:D560828-LROR
Domain Name:NAMBLA.ORG
Created On:11-Oct-1996 04:00:00 UTC&
Last Updated On:19-Oct-2002 02:47:36 UTC
Expiration Date:10-Oct-2005 04:00:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR
The site contact information was updated October 2002 and expires October 2005. It's ridiculous for gays to state NAMBLA isn't a viable organization because the copyright on their website hasn't been updated.
To: philetus
Don't buy the "three year" lie. The contact information was changed last October. And they moved http://www.nambla.de to http://www.nambla1.de in May of 2002. From the website:
Author: Ingo Schmitt
LastAuthor: Ingo Schmitt
Revision: 6
Created: 2002-05-27 20:30:00
LastSaved: 2002-05-28 01:57:00
84 posted on 03/07/2003 8:17 PM PST by scripter
Excellent work, scripter!
Actually, I think your problem is the opposite. Conservatives do think for themselves. The dominant message in the culture is that homosexual men are just like anyone else, except with a better dress sense - and they really know how to get in touch with their emotions! An element in the organized gay political movement is pushing that line. But those of us who actually think for ourselves know that it isn't the case. Relations between gay men, on average, are far more promiscuous and short-term than heterosxual relations. Furthermore, there are many in the gay community who question things like age of consent; who are honest enough to admit their own sexual experiences came at a young age with much older men, and who want to rewrite sexual and social relations for both sexes.
I don't think homosexual men are intrinscially more promiscuous. I do think that abandonment of extrinsic moral codes in favor of 'if it feels good, do it;' in the sexual arena leads to a similar ethical laxness in the non sexual arena - he that contemneth small things shall fall by little and little. Men, in general, are far more promiscuous than women, and when you remove the complementary elements of selectivity and desire for long-term commitment that women bring to interpersonal relationships, you end up with glory holes and bathhouses and all the tacky details of gay sexual life.
Andrew Sullivan would have us believe that if we let gays marry, they'll settle down just like heterosexuals. If his own escapades weren't public knowledge, this might be a bit more credible. but it also presumes that it's the institution of marriage that makes heterosexual men behave themselves (those of us that do, mostly). It's not. It's the fact that heterosexual relationships necessarily include women.
As conservatives, aside from our personal moral codes, we look at the stability of contemporary society and what it depends on. And it depends on, to a great extent, the stability of the pair bond between the sexes. Personally, I could give a good goddamn about how homosexual men conduct themselves - I really, really don't want to know, in fact - laying aside the fact that it costs over $10K a year to treat HIV infection, a preventable illness a large part of whose incidence is a result of gay sexual behavior, and a large fraction of which is born by the taxpayer. But when gay organizations intrude on parts of society, like the educational system, like marriage, which are essential to stability, with the goal of radical transformation, then the contract implied in live-and-let-live is violated. I say, keep 'em fighting sodomy laws, and they'll have less time to devote to 'queering elementary education'.
You're wasting your time here. You may have a few libertarians with you - libertarians, in general, are not known for the depth of their social thought - but you're trying to get us to admire the emperor's clothes, when we all can see for ourelves, and more important can confirm others' observations - that the emperor is buck naked, except for a few pecuilar piercings.
That's very misleading, madg. While parents may have signed general permission slips for their children to attend a "Safe Schools" conference, you stated that, based on your experience of attending a GLSEN conference, that GLSEN did no check-in for specific workshops.
Posted in the thread Parent Alleges Harassment for Exposing 'Fistgate' :
To: madg
"All of the workshops that I attended at the 2002 GLSEN conference did no kind of “check-in” whatsoever. None of the presenters knew my name or, presumably, anyone else’s name."
If there was no "check-in," then there was no pre-registration for any of the individual workshops. So any 12, 13, or 14 year old could walk in to a workshop where explicit homosexual sex acts are being discussed.
Some parents, believeing this was a "safe-schools" conference, may have given permission for their children to attend the conference in general. It's unlikely they knew that this sexually explicit workshop would be included. Of course, since no registration or parental permission was required for individual workshops, a kid could always tell his parents, "oh no, I didn't attend THAT workshop!"
228 posted on 02/13/2003 8:04 AM PST by EdReform
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Have we lost our freaking minds in this country? They are teaching this stuff to children. When are NAMBLA and the disgusting degenerates who promote this stuff going to be stopped! We are watching our culture be destroyed.
Note -- I have tried to lampoon this without being graphic and hope it does not get pulled. I hope it alerts those who have not heard about this to do something about it.
MIDI - TWISTING THE NIGHT AWAY
Massachusetts is the place…we are cutting to the chase
Life here is a hectic pace…fisting the night away
If you have just turned thirteen…bring a glove and Vaseline
You’ll learn something really keen…fisting the night away
Fisting…fisting…it’s more fun than you can know
Try it…fisting…fisting…it is the way to go
We will teach it in your school…NAMBLA guys are really cool
Do it in a spa or pool…fisting the night away
Tell your parents it’s your choice…they don’t even have a voice
For the feeling you’ll rejoice…fisting the night away
Fisting…fisting…it’s more fun than you can know
Try it…fisting…fisting…it is the way to go
(lengthy musical interlude)
Fisting…fisting…it’s more fun than you can know
Try it…fisting…fisting…it is the way to go
Try it once and you’ll be sold…all your friends should then be told
You will want it more than gold…fisting the night away
Do it in the bathroom stall…do it at the local mall
Do it in the study hall…fisting the night away
Fisting…fisting…it’s more fun than you can know
Try it…fisting…fisting…it is the way to go
Yeah, right. Parents watched Whiteman and Camenker being vilified by the homosexual legal group GLAD, GLSEN, the pro-homosexual press, and public officials. Then they saw that Whiteman's complaint fell on deaf ears in the DA's office. And for the past three years they've watched homosexual lawyers delaying in order to run up huge legal bills. Yeah, parents would be real motivated to file a complaint.
And if a parent decided to file a complaint, what's the first thing that would be shoved in their face? That little general permission slip for a "Safe Schools" conference that was so connivingly designed. Remeber, you told us, based on your experience of attending a GLSEN conference, that there was no sign in for any of the specific workshops. That means that there was no pre-registration and therefore no parental permission required for students to attend specific workshops.
Let's look at what GLAD says about the pending case on their web site:
"GLAD is putting the right-wing on notice that they cannot use intimidation tactics to try to stop vitally important sex education information from getting to young people."
( Documented here )
Sounds pretty threatening to me. If a parent filed a complaint, it's highly likely that the complaint would be ignored by the DA's office, and then the parent would be vilified by the homosexual community. We can see the method in the homosexual agenda madness.
It's part of a well planned and well funded strategy that has been used by the homosexual community for years. Homosexual authors Marshall K. Kirk & Erastes Pill wrote in The Overhauling of Straight America:
"The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights. To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion...
The way to benumb raw sensitivities about homosexuality is to have a lot of people talk a great deal about the subject in a neutral or supportive way. Open and frank talk makes the subject seem less furtive, alien, and sinful, more above-board. Constant talk builds the impression that the public opinion is at least divided on the subject, and that a sizable segment accepts or even practices homosexuality. Even rancorous debates between opponents and defenders serve the purpose of desensitization so long as “respectable” gays are front and center to make their own pitch...
And when we say talk about homosexuality, we mean just that. In the early stages of any campaign to reach straight America, the masses should not be shocked and repelled by premature exposure to homosexual behavior itself. Instead, the imagery of sex should be downplayed and gay rights should be reduced to an abstract social question as much as possible. First let the camel get his nose inside the tent -- and only later his unsightly derriere! ...
(5) Make the victimizers look bad. At a later stage of the media campaign for gay rights -- long after other gay ads have become commonplace -- it will be time to get tough with remaining opponents. To be blunt, they must be vilified."
"Fisting…fisting…it’s more fun than you can know..."
GLSEN Encourages Teens In Anal SEX "Don't give up.":
"Doing it: Gay men...Many people don't know the anus is not only an organ to remove waste. It's very sexually exciteable...Your first few times having anal sex might be a little hard. You may have to practice a bit before it starts feeling really good. I sure did." (pg. 81)"
Actually, there is some truth to that. From time index 5:39 to 7:41 on Fistgate audio clip 8. Scott Whiteman: As With Vegetables, Children Shouldn't Knock Homosexuality Until They Have Tried It (Length 8:02), you can hear a representative from the homosexual group "SpeakOut" admit that discussions about explicit homosexual sex have actually taken place in public school classrooms (a middle school classroom in that particular instance). You'll need RealPlayer to listen to the audio clip.
Discussions with similar (and even worse) obscene and harmful content are being introduced in the public school curriculum by teachers who bring homosexual "guest speakers" into their classes.
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