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1 posted on 03/06/2003 4:53:44 AM PST by SJackson
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The full article.

Making children more confident in approaching adults, has actually made them less so

Jewish World Review March 6, 2003 / 2 Adar II, 5763
Betsy Hart

Author of "Ready or Not: Why Treating Children as Small Adults Endangers Their Future - and Ours," Hymowitz explains that children have always been more independent here than in other countries. Even a century and a half ago visitors to the United States were regularly "appalled" at how American children, full of curiosity and vitality, so easily approached adults from overseas, peppering them with questions and conversation.

But, whatever the past tradition, these days it seems children don't speak to adults even when they are spoken to by them. If anything, it's the adults who are seen and not heard. I'm used to children who don't bother to say hello, look into my eyes, or respond to me when spoken to in any fashion polite or otherwise. I'm amazed at how even a neighborhood child playing in my home might ignore me, suggesting I possess no authority whatsoever. (Such a child changes his ways, at least while he's here, or he's not invited back.)

A shrug of the shoulders and a mumbled "I don't know" passes for polite conversation from little ones.

Too bad. America's efforts in recent decades to make things "more egalitarian" between adults and children, perhaps in the hopes of making children more confident in approaching adults, has actually made them less so.

I recently noticed a child in my own first grader's class who was unusual. When I visited for lunch one day, he not only chatted and responded to me respectfully, but confidently drew me out and engaged me. That kind of confidence and those manners are learned. In fact one of the wonderful things about manners, says Hymowitz, is it gives a child something to "fall back on" in approaching others. Anyway, observing such manners in this young child made me redouble my efforts in my own home.

It's not just that kids need to learn "yes, please" "no thank you" and to look into the eyes of the person they are speaking to. It's not enough for a child to respect the particular authority held by the adults in his life, nor is it just forms for the sake of them. Though those are all good starts, engaging with others and showing interest in them, and with proper manners and respect, shows that one cares about the persons he's addressing.

And being able to do so with adults in particular can give a child a confidence he'll have for a lifetime.

So, back to the Hart household. My husband and I felt that our children weren't growing in that confidence - shall we say - as much as we would like.

What to do when you're swimming upstream? Have a good swim. In this case, role playing.

Now over and over we have fun pretending that I'm the next door neighbor, the teacher, the doctor, or a friend who's dropped in for a cup of coffee. My husband might be the pastor, the scout leader or the dad from next door. We practice how to say hello, always using the person's name, how to respond, how to ask and answer questions, how to engage one another and show that we care about him.

A mumbled "I don't know" and a shrug of the shoulders, looking down at the ground while speaking, and not speaking when spoken to are always unacceptable (and always have been) in our home. And yes, we make it clear that while they have to respect their little friends too, the adults in their lives command an authority that their friends do not.

Then there's the game my kids have enjoyed for years. Before going to someone's home or on an outing with other adults, my kids ask to go over the "rules." I'll say, "now when you say 'hi' to Mr. and Mrs. Smith, be sure to look down at their knee caps, don't use their names, and scowl a lot. Remember, the goal is to make sure they think we couldn't care less about them." Even after a thousand times, this brings howls of laughter and "no mom, we have to look into their eyes and show them we care!"

Well, practice hasn't made perfect yet. But my husband and I don't mind that we are swimming upstream - as long as we are going in the right direction.

2 posted on 03/06/2003 5:20:54 AM PST by William Terrell (Advertise in this space - Low rates)
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How often do you hear adults say thank you and you're welcome in commercial transactions nowadays. Why should there be surprise, that the children of all those adults who don't even do that minimum, are any different?
3 posted on 03/06/2003 5:23:43 AM PST by ricpic
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My 4 yr old talks to everyone. Many adults and children don't respond to him. I have noticed many, children won't answer, even if I look then in the eye and ask a question. I too have had the experience where children ,at a party at my house, refuse to talk to me or any other adult. It is really strange.
5 posted on 03/06/2003 5:30:34 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((no more movies anymore))
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Miss Hart has a good point, though she might have expressed it more strongly. A code of manners, whose prescriptions are clear, simple, and rigid, allows a child to say to himself, "I'm playing by the rules, so I'm good." That is inherently confidence-building. When there is no code, the arbitrary, variable reactions of adults can easily confuse a child and leave him with nothing by which to judge his own conduct -- no way to determine whether he's in the right or in the wrong. This is especially important today, when adults are often quite as guideless and irrational as toddlers.

Social standards are protection for everyone -- and who needs protection more than children?

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6 posted on 03/06/2003 5:46:45 AM PST by fporretto (Curmudgeon Emeritus, Palace of Reason)
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Harumph. Durned kids.
15 posted on 03/06/2003 6:51:52 AM PST by George W. Bush
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Very interesting article...

To those who believe that the decline in manners has to do with public school education, let me point out that my home-schooled nieces have appalling manners and play behaviors; now aged ten and thirteen, they are improving, but it used to be that I couldn't stand to visit with them.

My DH and I recently visited with his aunt in D.C. area, and on our last day in the area, she hosted a large brunch in her very small home. At the brunch were five young girls from two different families. They played quietly upstairs, conducted themselves like young ladies, and were exceedingly polite. I had no idea that young children could be so delightful and engaging.

I witnessed another unusual thing while we were in D.C.: One night we attended a hockey game at the MCI Center along with my DH's aunt and his parents. We happened to make the acquaintance of a transplanted Michigander who hailed from a small city about four miles from where my DH's parents live. The gentlman and his wife were sitting two or three rows below us.

Shortly into the first periond, a man and what I assume to be his son joined the couple to watch the game. The boy was perhaps 10-12 years old. After they had settled into their seats, I saw the boy approach the gentleman, shake his hand, look him in the eye and actually conduct a conversation. Blew me away.

What is sad is that children actually displaying manners now shocks me.


19 posted on 03/06/2003 10:04:08 AM PST by missycocopuffs
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Look what kids are told now about strangers. We are freaking them out with warnings of molestation and abduction one day, and then asking them to be confident and conversational with strangers the next?

When I was a kid, I was vaguely aware of bad people I wasn't supposed to talk to.... But it was not drilled into me like it is today. Too bad really that it is so.
24 posted on 03/07/2003 10:49:18 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Hold to your purpose.... May the blessings of all free folk go with you.)
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