[Djarum]

Bang!

[jjm2111]

And the Truth shall set your free.

[Dialup Llama]

> Canadians seem concerned about the welfare of other Canadians and willing to translate that empathy into generous social programs and trusting attitudes that don’t hold their fellow citizens in poverty and suspicion.

Generosity is when you use your own money to help someone. When you vote that someone else should be forced to pay for a program, that is theft.

[FSPress]

Meanwhile, LA’s scourge of black gun homicide (308 murder victims in a population of 900,000) is 12 times that of whites, and 100 times higher in Southcentral than among LA’s suburban whites.

I will never turn my back on a Glock again. From now on its the stainless steel ones I will trust

[pabianice]

However, “Bowling” does reveal two uniquely American traits that may explain our gun carnage: Americans fear each other intensely and are indifferent to their fellow citizens’ well being.

No. Liberals fear each other and are indifferent to their fellow citizens' well-being.

[Marauder]

Moore and Bellisiles: The Dynamic Duo of misrepresentation, prevarication, and delusional propaganda.

Their efforts are a hallmark of liberalism, where truth is subjective and likely to fall by the wayside in the pursuit of the almighty agenda.

[Russell Scott]

Anybody who takes seriously what the "Mouse that Moored" says, I'm sure believes Saddam is a benevolent dictator, and President Bush is the mastermind of all that is evil in the world.

[Ohioan]

Moore’s orgy of self-contradiction concerns a political problem facing liberals in general: blacks and Hispanics really do commit and suffer gun violence at far higher levels than do more affluent whites. Further, it is not whites shooting minorities but, as Tupac Shakur lamented, “It’s my own kind doing all the killing here.” Poorer whites also have high gun murder rates; one’s odds of dying by gunfire rise sharply in almost perfect syncopation with one’s poverty level. Instead of confronting these stark realities, Moore trivializes black and Hispanic gun violence as figments of white paranoia.

This involves a massive confusion of cause and effect. The same factors which make for poverty tend to make for more lawlessness. It is not poverty which causes lawlessness, but poverty and lawlessness have some roots in common.

However, the still more interesting and obviously neglected factor, here, is that the Black crime rate has borne a proportionate relationship to the extent of liberalism in any community--i.e., the Black to White per capita crime rate is directly proportionate to the extent a community accepts "Liberal" premises. And this has been true since the early 1900s. For example in the immediate post World War II era, the ratio was about 3 to 1 in most of the South, but only 1 to l in South Carolina. In the more Conservative Northern States it was about 5 to 1. In New York and Massachusetts, it was about 8 to 1. By 1960, in the most "Liberal" States, it had risen to 12 to 1, as the "Liberal" excesses became more pronounced. It was still, however, about 1 to 1 in South Carolina!

It is not "poverty," but "Liberalism" which breeds crime. It is also the chief cause for poverty. Why? Its denial of human reality saps the incentive to succeed at anything. Its provision of crutches for failure promotes failure.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[Pagey]

"Moore’s statistics are absurdly misleading...Moore’s orgy of self-contradiction..."

I saw a commercial this past weekend that said dOprah (yes dOprah) was going to spend a whole hour talking about this. Fortunately I work, so I missed it. You can be sure she followed Moore beliefs and contradictions.

[teeman8r]

Rule Twelve Special Rules for The Documentary Awards I. Definition 1. An eligible documentary film is defined as a theatrically released non-fiction motion picture dealing creatively with cultural, artistic, historical, social, scientific, economic or other subjects. It may be photographed in actual occurrence, or may employ partial re-enactment, stock footage, stills, animation, stop-motion or other techniques, as long as the emphasis is on fact and not on fiction.

taken from the academies rules and regs. surely bowling for is in violation of emphasising turning facts into fiction.... perhaps a write in campaign can overturn the academies violation of its code of rules... unfortunately i couldn't find a contact us page on the website....

[waterstraat]

Moore contradicts himself again with a bizarrely racist comment. “Ninety percent of the guns in this country are bought out in the white suburbs where you don’t need them because there’s virtually no crime,” he told Phil Donahue (MSBNBC, 10/28). “And as the prosecutor says in the film, these guns then are stolen from the white communities and end up back in the inner city, creating all this violence.”

Moore is a racist. As Moore points out: 60% of the murders are committed by a very small group of people who are located in a very small geographic area, which is less than 2% of the land area. That means that the remaining 40% of the murders are spread out in the rest of 98% of America. This 98% of America is among lowest crime/murder rate in the world.

Moore has no answers, just contradictory questions.

When you consider that North Dakota has the lowest murder rate of any country in the world, then any national gun control law would be pointless, a waste of resources, waste of time,waste of police, etc.

Whatever needs to be done to get the murder rate down in the 2% of America which does have a high murder rate, it must be localized, it must directed soley to that 2% geographical area.

[Red Barr]

A major theme in Bowling for Columbine
is that NRA is callous toward slayings. In order to make this theme fit the facts, however, Bowling repeatedly distorts the evidence. It portrays this with the following sequence: Weeping children outside Columbine;
And then a Cut to Charlton Heston holding a musket and proclaiming "I have only five words for you: 'from my cold, dead, hands'";


*The Fact is: Heston's "cold dead hands" speech, which leads off Moore's depiction of the Denver meeting, was not given at Denver after Columbine. It was given a year later in Charlotte, North Carolina, and was his gesture of gratitude upon his being given a handmade musket, at that annual meeting.


Moore has actually taken audio of seven sentences, from five different parts of the speech, and a section given in a different speech entirely, and spliced them together. Each edit is cleverly covered by inserting a still or video footage for a few seconds.
First, right after the weeping victims, Moore puts on Heston's "I have only five words for you . . . cold dead hands" statement, making it seem directed at them. As noted above, it's actually a thank-you speech given a year later in North Carolina.
Moore then has an interlude -- a visual of a billboard and his narration. This is vital. He can't go directly to Heston's real Denver speech. If he did that, you might ask why Heston in mid-speech changed from a purple tie and lavender shirt to a white shirt and red tie, and the background draperies went from maroon to blue. Moore has to separate the two segments.
Moore's second edit (covered by splicing in a pan shot of the crowd) deletes Heston's announcement that NRA has in fact cancelled most of its meeting:
"As you know, we've cancelled the festivities, the fellowship we normally enjoy at our annual gatherings. This decision has perplexed a few and inconvenienced thousands. As your president, I apologize for that."
Moore then cuts to Heston noting that Denver's mayor asked NRA not to come, and shows Heston replying "I said to the Mayor: As Americans, we're free to travel wherever we want in our broad land. Don't come here? We're already here!" as if in defiance.
**Actually, Moore put an edit right in the middle of the first sentence, and another at its end! Heston really said (with reference his own WWII vet status) "I said to the mayor, well, my reply to the mayor is, I volunteered for the war they wanted me to attend when I was 18 years old. Since then, I've run small errands for my country, from Nigeria to Vietnam. I know many of you here in this room could say the same thing."
Moore cuts it after "I said to the Mayor" and attaches a sentence from the end of the next paragraph: "As Americans, we're free to travel wherever we want in our broad land." He hides the deletion by cutting to footage of protestors and a photo of the Mayor before going back and showing Heston.
Moore has Heston then triumphantly announce "Don't come here? We're already here!" Actually, that sentence is clipped from a segment five paragraphs farther on in the speech. Again, Moore uses an editing trick to cover the doctoring, switching to a pan shot of the audience as Heston's (edited) voice would continues…

Moore is a “two bit switch and hit liar” that’s out to remove our rights too own a gun. Moore is a propaganda “mouth piece” for the extreme left-wing movement of the so-called democratic Party. < Case in point> In an animated history send-up, with the narrator talking rapidly, Bowling equates the NRA with the Klan, suggesting NRA was founded in 1871, "the same year that the Klan became an illegal terrorist organization." Bowling goes on to depict Klansmen becoming the NRA and an NRA character helping to light a burning cross.

This sequence is intended to create the impression either that NRA and the Klan were parallel groups or that when the Klan was outlawed its members formed the NRA.
Both impressions are not merely false, but directly opposed to the real facts.

Fact: The NRA was founded in 1871 -- by act of the New York Legislature, at request of former Union officers. The Klan was founded in 1866, and quickly became a terrorist organization. One might claim that while it was an organization and a terrorist one, it technically became an "illegal" such with passage of the federal Ku Klux Klan Act and Enforcement Act in 1871. These criminalized interference with civil rights, and empowered the President to use troops to suppress the Klan. (Although we'd have to acknowledge that murder, terror and arson were illegal long before that time -- the Klan hadn't been operating legally until 1871, it was operating illegally with the connivance of law enforcement.)

Fact: The Klan Act and Enforcement Act were signed into law by President Ulysess S. Grant. Grant used their provisions vigorously, suspending habeas corpus and deploying troops; under his leadership over 5,000 arrests were made and the Klan was dealt a serious (if all too short-lived) blow.
Fact: Grant's vigor in disrupting the Klan earned him unpopularity among many whites, but Frederick Douglass praised him, and an associate of Douglass wrote that African-Americans "will ever cherish a grateful remembrance of his name, fame and great services."
Fact: After Grant left the White House, the NRA elected him as its eighth president.
Fact: After Grant's term, the NRA elected General Philip Sheridan, who had removed the governor Lousiana for failure to suppress the KKK.
Fact: The affinity of NRA for enemies of the Klan is hardly surprising. The NRA was founded by former Union officers, and eight of its first ten presidents were Union veterans.
Fact: During the 1950s and 1960s, groups of blacks organized as NRA chapters in order to obtain surplus military rifles to fight off Klansmen.


-I Think the time has come where Moore should open his eyes or retire from his post of being the Minster of propaganda-

[BSunday]

Didn't really have anything to say, just wanted to take another opportunity to add to Michael Moore's "Miserable Failure" ranking with my tagline.

[Destructor]

If the truth will set you free, then Michael Moore is doin' life without parole!