Posted on 03/03/2003 2:46:58 AM PST by HAL9000
The pope wants to go in front of UNO if its message with Bush does not stop the war
Jean Paul II will ask to address personally to the Security Council of the United Nations if its message with the American president George W Bush does not convince it to give up a war against Iraq, learned Monday the AFP from diplomatic source vaticane.L' possibility of a direct address of the pope in the United Nations was evoked during the maintenance of the pope with the secretary-general of UNO, Kofi Annan, there are two weeks in the Vatican, one added of the same source.Le cardinal Pio Laghi left Rome Monday morning for Washington carrying a message of peace as it must give to the American president. The cardinal, old apostolic nuncio (ambassador) in Washington and friend of the Bush family, hopes to be received mercredi.Une delegation of American religious leaders forwarded last week to Jean Paul II a letter wishing that the head of the catholic Church go to ONU."Il is allocated only to the pope himself to make such a decision ", commented on Sunday on a chain of television the archbishop Renato Martino, old observant of the Holy See at the United Nations and current president of the pontifical Council for justice and the peace, which had been charged to transmit to the missive.Si the pope, had tired and old of almost 82 years, had he could benefit from it to go to request in Ground Zero, affirms one diplomatic source vaticane.Ce gesture would be very appreciated by all the Americans, adds one. He had been considered last August at the time of the voyage of the pope in Canada for the world Days of Jeunesse.Dans diplomatic circles of the Holy See, one estimates that the parallel actions and concommitantes of the pope on the two protagonists of the crisis, Iraq and the United States, represent a significant chance so that a war is evité.Le Iraqi president Saddam Hussein should take account of the risk to be relatively insulated in the Arab world if he made the deaf person ear with a call to order of the Arab League, even observes one of the same source.De, underlines one, president Bush, of methodist confession, should not receive from one who asked nearly a billion and half of Christians of the whole world to fast for peace Wednesday. This fast is also preached by the World Council of Churches of Geneva where Protestant Eglises and orthodoxes.En sit reiterating Sunday its call to all the Christians, the pope confirmed his determination with all to try for the paix."Sans to go in front of the difficulties, it is necessary to look for and traverse all the possible ways to avoid the war, which always brings with it serious mournings and consequences for everyone ", he launched to the thousands of brought together pilgrims Saint-Pierre place under the eye of the cameras of télévision.Le cardinal Laghi will make any possible sound to convince president Bush that a unilateral attack except UNO against Iraq is a "crime against peace", Foreign Minister of the pope, Mgr Jean Louis Tauran.
I never said that. I just said that the Church is not a worldly instrument, and is not able to provide worldly solutions to problems.
In fact, in my original statement, I didn't mention the Pope at all.
Go ahead and attack the President with your Heavenly mole sarcasm. It'll make you popular, but not necessarily right.
Reagand did invade Grenada. Reagan didn't want to set off a world war by invading Russia.
The time to drive Hussein from office is now, before he gets nuclear weapons.
The pope may see more clearly than folks here that disarming Iraq through military pressure should be tried before invading a country that hasn't attacked us.
Hussein will never fully disarm. He must be driven from power. The Pope is giving Bush cover to do what he has to do.
The last thing the Pope wants is to back the West, thus giving credence to binLaden's "crusade" of Islam against Christianity.
The Pope doesn't want war, but he knows full well that he is powerless to stop it.
Thanks to Gulf War I and President George H.W. Bush, forty-first President of the United States.
All of which goes to prove the wisdom of nipping a would-be Nebuchadnezzar in the bud.
As far as I am concerned, the Catholic Church was once a great institution when the Bishops and Cardinals actually rode into battle to wage war as soldiers for Christ and beat back Moslem invaders. The Pope is joining the 'axis of evil'???
A quote from the time of Charles II is not 'Catholic bashing'? An era in English history when the Mayor of London put up a plaque blaming the Great Fire on 'Papists'?
You're either ignorant of English history, or deliberately trying to mislead.
Saddam is no Nebuchadnezzar, my dear. He's Noriega, with oil fields.
PS: quality poem, on your FR page.
Fine.
But not in this way.
And where did I say that, newbie?
Instead of manufacturing something you feel comfortable countering, how about addressing the actual issues in my posts?
Go get 'em, Laurel! But I'll bet deathly silence is your only answer to those questions.
Yes, there are. But there is something going on at a deeper level, too. It is almost as though (for a certain type of insecure, zero-accomplishment personality) slandering their betters closes the accomplishment gap. I don't know whether that emotion has a name but for sure it's associated with the very worst in human nature. I think we need to robustly oppose it especially when it is directed at someone whose whole life has been devoted to the service of others, like the man in question. One thing that's REALLY annoying, is that (in the shambles I laughably call bookshelves) I can't find my copy of D'Souza's Reagan. Almost sure the Gipper had some admiring, comrade-in-arms compliments for Pope John Paul. Regards, By.
Saddam with Kuwait's oil fields and Saudi Arabia's oil fields and some nukes would not be Noriega.
JPII has a long history of backstabbing American foreign policy in the Middle East, and Christianity generally.
...and if my aunt wore army boots, she'd be my uncle.
He'll be stopped. His dream now is to get through the next two weeks, in one piece. I know it's a necessary part of psyops and the war build-up to demonise Saddam as a dangerous opponent, but surely us Freepers are too well-informed to be seduced by that spin. Unless he has the imagination, and civilian support, to fight a house-to-house war in the cities, this will be a very short campaign.
Pope John Paul II has done more for America (and the free West) than any non-American alive. Your ingratitude is a personality flaw, indicative of your cultural influences.
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