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Supreme Court Rules For Abortion Protesters In Civil Disobedience Case (RICO)
Associated Press / SFGate ^

Posted on 02/26/2003 7:21:42 AM PST by RCW2001

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:41:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: hchutch; Chancellor Palpatine; Poohbah
Well, I also am willing to make an exception in the case of rape as well, does that make ME pro-abortion?

It makes you a terrible, monster of a person who is sure to burn in hell for all eternity. You will wail and gnash your teeth so loudly that your relatives here in The World will hear you and it will keep them awake at night.

(Just kiddin'.)

261 posted on 02/26/2003 11:53:57 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ( "It was total manipulation. He was trying to confuse me, and it worked." - Nigel Tufnel)
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To: hchutch
Well, I also am willing to make an exception in the case of rape as well, does that make ME pro-abortion?

The short answer is yes. Why do you make the exception?

262 posted on 02/26/2003 12:05:25 PM PST by conservonator
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To: hchutch
I also am willing to make an exception in the case of rape

Ditto; I think in such cases abortion is justifiable as self defense.

263 posted on 02/26/2003 12:06:01 PM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: MrLeRoy
"self-defense" requires an unjust agressor
264 posted on 02/26/2003 12:10:12 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Poohbah
Gresham's Law is illustrated here: The bad drives out the good.

The good needs to grow some balls and force a new face on the movement. He wins only if you don’t show up.

265 posted on 02/26/2003 12:11:47 PM PST by conservonator (Besides, there’s more of us than there are of him.)
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To: MrLeRoy
I think in such cases abortion is justifiable as self defense.

Self-defense of what? The baby is the one that dies. The woman, already a victim, faces countless other complications. How is this self-defense?
266 posted on 02/26/2003 12:12:12 PM PST by Desdemona
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To: RCW2001
Marking
267 posted on 02/26/2003 12:14:55 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: Notwithstanding
"self-defense" requires an unjust agressor

Morally or legally? If a person has been thrown off a tall building and will seriously harm me (trapped below) unless I use my missile launcher on him, it may be true that I am morally obligated to accept the serious harm---but it should not be, and as far as I know it is not, legally obligatory.

268 posted on 02/26/2003 12:15:45 PM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: RGSpincich
"dig?"
"dig" you said?


the only digging they are doing is that on their own graves.
estrada is not going away... dems are jumping ship.
fillibuster is going to be FORCED it will make NEWS that democrats are opposing this administration's first HISPANIC to a high level court.

hispanics are NOT like black "lock-step" koolaid drinking democrats.
they will be angry. they will get HOT about it. they will destroy several democrat senators hope for re-election and they will make the news when they ACCUSE the dems of being an extremist, anti-hispanic, racist party... which it is.

dems, run by the blacks... are very afraid that their primary constituency, won't LIKE becoming america's number TWO minority... and second in line for preferential treatments... the blacks will revolt in their own "I'm too tired to go vote" way...

yup.... turning into a hellish year to be a democrat.
good.

hand them the friggin' shovel.
269 posted on 02/26/2003 12:16:03 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (Mr. 29a... needs to be convicted.)
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To: Desdemona
Self-defense of what?

The mother's bodily integrity; if I were to attempt to do to Jane Doe what pregnancy and childbirth do to a woman, she would be legally justified in killing me to prevent it.

270 posted on 02/26/2003 12:17:50 PM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: conservonator
The good needs to grow some balls and force a new face on the movement. He wins only if you don’t show up.

Easy to say, because you haven't dealt with these idiots. I have. My wife asked me to quit the movement when she started getting threatening phone calls. I hadn't been at any clinic protests; the only folks I'd PO'd were the radical nutballs. I am a former U.S. Marine. I dealt with the threat, and it went away. Few people in the movement have my background.

271 posted on 02/26/2003 12:19:56 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: MrLeRoy
if I were to attempt to do to Jane Doe what pregnancy and childbirth do to a woman, she would be legally justified in killing me to prevent it.

That would be the rapist, not an innocent baby.
272 posted on 02/26/2003 12:20:38 PM PST by Desdemona
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To: miltonim
What will NOW say? Any predictions?
273 posted on 02/26/2003 12:21:27 PM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: Desdemona
if I were to attempt to do to Jane Doe what pregnancy and childbirth do to a woman, she would be legally justified in killing me to prevent it.

That would be the rapist, not an innocent baby.

How would that not be the baby?

274 posted on 02/26/2003 12:23:18 PM PST by MrLeRoy ("That government is best which governs least.")
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To: All
Apllying the statute to anti-abortion protestors was a scam from the get-go. The Clintonistas always knew the supremes would have to overturn them, but they also knew the process would take years. In the meantime, dedicated pro-lifers have been harassed, bankrupted, intimidated and destroyed by liberal criminals abusing the power of their office. I hope those crooks can now receive the same treatment through the court system. Payback is a bitch!
275 posted on 02/26/2003 12:28:39 PM PST by BJR
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; bulldogs; Charlie OK; ...
ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

276 posted on 02/26/2003 12:33:44 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Happy Kuwaiti Liberation Day!!)
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; bulldogs; Charlie OK; ...
ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

277 posted on 02/26/2003 12:34:07 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Happy Kuwaiti Liberation Day!!)
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To: Poohbah
Easy to say, because you haven't dealt with these idiots...

True, but I'm also a former Marine so I have a great deal of experience dealing with other idiots...But I digress. My goal is not to demonstrate my support for counter productive tactics; we have our own Reverend Johnson that has divided some in the local pro-life movement. My goal is simply to help you see past this one particular person. This is a good ruling and a good day for the unborn.

278 posted on 02/26/2003 12:34:20 PM PST by conservonator
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To: MrLeRoy
You have a great point. At 4 months in an adult woman, there is some outward physical change, but not a significant one. As it proceeds, organs move, the hips change shape, and nothing works quite the way it did before. In a 9 year old, the changes wrought would be phenomenal, and likely life threatening and visible to all(except for a committee of politically appointed reviewing hacks makes a tepid recommendation to the church and government).

Don't kid yourself - for the true believers, once someone is raped, there should be no D&Cs as part of the rape kit, no RU-486, nothing, because that might disturb the pregnancy that might be taking place.

279 posted on 02/26/2003 12:37:28 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (those who unilaterally beat their swords into plowshares wind up plowing for those who don't)
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