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Can Star Trek Be Saved? (lighter topic alert)
TV Guide ^ | 2/03 | Nollinger

Posted on 02/25/2003 11:14:23 AM PST by pabianice

After launching at warp speed in the fall of 2001, Enterprise, the UPN prequel series designed to reenergize the aging Star Trek franchise by attracting younger viewers, is limping along on impulse power. Midway through its second season, ratings are down 24 percent from last year. "What can you say?" executive producer Brannon Braga says. "We're bummed." And in clear violation of the series's prime directive, viewership is actually skewing older.

The news is even worse at the box office. Despite good reviews and generally enthusiastic fan response, Star Trek Nemesis, the most recent — and likely final — adventure to exclusively feature the Star Trek: The Next Generation cast (more about that in a moment), took in just over $40 million, making it the lowest-grossing Trek movie by far (translation: with production costs of $ 113 million, "Nemesis" was a financial disaster).

After five live-action series, 10 feature films, stacks of book titles and Q knows how many mass-produced trinkets, has the multibillion-dollar sci-fi franchise founded by the late Gene Roddenberry lived too long to prosper?

Corporate executives maintain that a warp core breach is far from imminent. Despite its ratings woes, Enterprise is still the top-rated drama on perennially struggling UPN and is in no danger of being canceled, says network president Dawn Ostroff. "Hit shows often take years," she says.

As for Nemesis, Paramount Pictures vice-chairman and chief operating officer Rob Friedman attributes the movie's flameout to tough competition from other holiday films. "I think we probably got 'Lord of the Ring'-ed," he says of the blockbuster Two Towers sequel that opened the following week. "Would we have preferred to have another $20 million at the box office? Sure. But that doesn't foretell any concerns about the future of Trek."

Maybe not. But it doesn't take a positronic brain to recognize that droves of fans have deserted in recent years. Movie ticket sales have declined from about 21 million for First Contact (1996) to 15 million for Insurrection (1998) to less than 8 million for Nemesis. On TV, the Trek audience has been shrinking since Next Generation's peak 11 years ago, when it averaged 17.7 million viewers a week in Season 5. Today, 4.3 million people watch Enterprise.

The series may be going where no man has gone before, but some Trek fans say the producers forgot the "boldly" part — those steamy decontamination-chamber scenes with Archer (Scott Bakula) and T'Pol (Jolene Blalock) notwithstanding.

"Enterprise has potential," says Jamahl Epsicokhan, a 27-year-old Web designer who has posted Trek episode reviews at Star Trek Hypertext Online since 1994. "But it doesn't take risks." Steve Krutzler, editor of TrekWeb.com, an Internet site that gets 150,000 visitors a month, says the series "was being hyped as a radical departure, [yet] everything feels like the same Star Trek we've gotten for 15 years."

Although Braga is not ready to divulge details, he says "epic challenges... that better exploit the sense of awe and danger" are ahead for the crew. "Let's just say there will be a slight revision in our mission, and a slight revision in the part of space that Enterprise is heading into," says executive producer Rick Berman, who has overseen the franchise since Roddenberry's death in 1991.

As to where the movies are headed, Berman is less certain. "I doubt because our box office fell off on Nemesis that it's going to be the end of Star Trek films," the producer says. "I can't imagine numerous other movies won't occur."

Though there have been no discussions as yet, Berman hints at one tempting scenario: combining characters from the various series in one grand adventure. "There are a lot of interesting possibilities," he says.

Berman's remarks suggest Trek is in an adjustment period; some fine-tuning is needed. "I don't think that there's any television franchise that people love to take potshots at as much," Berman says. In fact, he refuses to concede that Trek will ever run its course entirely. "Would anybody have guessed when the original series went off the air in 1969 that 34 years later it would still be part of the American mythos?" Berman says. "It's part of our lexicon."

Adds Braga: "You've got to keep an optimistic viewpoint. It's come this far, and it ain't goin' anywhere."

HOW TO FIX TREK

1. MAKE IT OBVIOUS It's cold and dark in space. Enterprise needs real peril, dread and fear so that characters are tested to within an inch of their lives. Introduce a chilling, powerful, wholly original threat that can't be vanquished in an hour. The Suliban aren't bad, but they're no Borg.

2 MAKE IT MORE REAL Let the crew make grave mistakes. Let them argue and be driven by less-than-moral impulses. Let the phaser beams rip through metal and bone. And let there be dangling emotional threads that weave through the lives of these otherwise bland characters.

3 LET CAPTAIN ARCHER BE HEROIC As written, Scott Bakula has as much commanding presence as Cap'n Crunch. Archer, like his beagle, is benign and a little too cute. He has an annoying tendency to second-guess, which trickles down to the rest of his whiny crew. Either light a fire under this laconic guy or kill him in a blaze of glory that explains why starships, planets and star systems should one day be named Archer. (And while you're at it, take out that annoying Ensign Hoshi with him.)

4 OPEN FIRE AND CLOSE THOSE PIE HOLES Enterprise should expand our belief about what is possible and transport us to realms unimagined with its ideas. But if it can't also be packed with action and adventure, move it to Lifetime. We're weary of the endless Trek babble on the bridge, the shuttlecraft, the crew quarters. Enough!

5 GET US ON THE EDGE OF OUR SEATS You shouldn't be able to figure out what the general direction and ending of any given episode is by the first 12 minutes. "Oh, here's where Hoshi overcomes her fear of failure..." "Well, it looks like Trip and that belligerent alien are going to work together to save both their hides..." Why not try some longer, unpredictable story arcs? Cliff-hangers, big and small, give a series purpose, poignancy and punch. Make us miss you this summer.

And at the movies...

It's no secret why Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (the whale tale) was a fan favorite. It had humor, nostalgia and intelligent cast interplay. Why did Nemesis leave us wanting? It zipped through the Riker-Troi wedding, a payoff fans had long awaited. Worse, the film didn't include a farewell scene for Picard and his crush, Beverly. The heart of Trek is heart, and Trek's best films tap into relationships.


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To: Bogey78O
ROFL!

Want a laugh? Read Mr. Cranky's review at http://www.mrcranky.com/movies/battlefieldearth.html

"The only thing I can figure out is that the Church of Scientology decided that they wanted to ensure nobody else joined up. This movie is like watching the Pope accidentally catch on fire while giving Easter Mass.

261 posted on 02/25/2003 5:22:38 PM PST by strela (Porgie Tirebiter - He's a Spy and a Girl Delighter)
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To: RightOnline
I think the finest episode of DS9 was done completely in flashback. In it Sisko explains how he basically set the Dominion up by assisting in the assassination of a Romulan Senator and debated with himself if all the deaths the Romulans will endure will be worth it. If his conscious is worth gaining an edge in this war. He decided it was and promptly deleted his journal entry.
262 posted on 02/25/2003 5:26:08 PM PST by Bogey78O (check it out... http://freepers.zill.net/users/bogey78o_fr/puppet.swf)
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To: strela
"The only thing I can figure out is that the Church of Scientology decided that they wanted to ensure nobody else joined up. This movie is like watching the Pope accidentally catch on fire while giving Easter Mass.

OMG that was hilarious !

That was SUCH a bad movie.

Cheers,

knews hound

263 posted on 02/25/2003 5:28:10 PM PST by knews_hound (Anyone else play Day of Defeat?)
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To: knews_hound
That was SUCH a bad movie.

Pity that it didn't kill John Travolta's career though. That way, at least all that wasted celluloid would have perished for a good cause.

264 posted on 02/25/2003 5:30:49 PM PST by strela (Porgie Tirebiter - He's a Spy and a Girl Delighter)
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To: Semper Paratus
Do like the Vulcan chick though.

She has her point(s).

(Ears, I meant ears!)

265 posted on 02/25/2003 5:41:20 PM PST by Jonah Hex
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To: strela
I would have Anthony Hopkins cripple him and put him in a wheelchair, then have Julianne Moore roll the chair into a pit of hungry targs. Slowly.

Superb!

I can also hear Trelaine's scolding parents in there, as well.

I'll take "Taunting your predator homework" for $500.

266 posted on 02/25/2003 5:47:35 PM PST by FreedomFarmer (Contains approx. 30,000 servings per farm.)
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To: pabianice
The Star Trek franchise needs a break. The audience is too Trekked out. I never bothered to watch Enterprise until I saw a FR thread a few weeks ago about Enterprise's AIDS episode. This made me want to watch the episode. In Chicago, Enterprise is broadcasted on Wednesdays and re-run on Sundays. After viewing the AIDS episode, I couldn't believe how PC Star Trek has become. Few Vulcans can mind-meld in Archer's era, yet every Vulcan can mind-meld in Captian Kirk's time? Talk about revisonist history! Also, I suppose the Vuclan character in Enterprise is soon going to come out as a lesbian mind-melder. The Star Trek series is more interested in promoting political correctness than writing good sci-fi tales. This is why I don't watch Star Trek anymore.
267 posted on 02/25/2003 5:50:39 PM PST by Kuksool
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To: Jonah Hex
The best Star Trek movie was "The Wrath of Kahn". A great villain, great writing and a great plot.

The current series, Enterprise, has no edge. It's PC and boring.

But I do agree, Topol definately has her good points(not the ears).
268 posted on 02/25/2003 5:51:48 PM PST by behicks
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To: pabianice
"Can Star Trek Be Saved?"

There was a great show on Fox the begining of the season called Firefly!

I watched the first show of Firefly and I was hoping it would be something different...

Well it was confusing at first 9 people on a spaceship in sort of Western Gear and they were of a diverse background and sometimes spoke slang chineese to cuss.

The first episode was called Train Job the premise was the crew of the Firefly are mercenaries (kinda) who fly from place to place looking for Jobs. They are hired to steal a cargo off of a train (kind of a high speed hover train) they are hired by some bad ass who takes betrayal seriously (He likes to cut off pieces of your body... like your head)

Any how there is alot of witty reparte like:

Simon: (as he stares down from the cargo bay at the hover train as Jayne is lowered down on a winch to steal the cargo) "What are we doing?"

Kaylee: (As she operates the winch to lower Jayne) "Oh, Crime."

Simon: "Crime? Oh how nice."

BTW no Laugh track. Anyhow After they succesfully steal the cargo and get back the captain and the first mate who get rounded up (they were on the train to help with the heist) in a general arrest of everybody on the train, they come to find out the Cargo is medicine that is for some folks are suffering from a very bad plague and they will die without it.

So the Crew of the Firefly decide to give back the cargo and give back the Bad guy his cash.

Of course the badguy's main muscle man KROLL is downright angry when the Captain of the Firefly gives him the money back and tells him the deal is off.

A fight ensues and the Crew of the Firefly subdue Muscle man and his henchmen and the Captain then explains it again:

KROLL is on his knees, hands tied behind his back

(Captain) MAL
Now this is all the money Niska gave us in advance. You bring it back to him, tell him the job didn't work out. (KROLL spits) We're not thieves--but we are thieves. Point is we're not takin' what's his. Now we'll stay out of his way the best we can from here on in. You explain that that's best for everyone, okay?

KROLL stands.

KROLL
Keep the money. Use it to buy a funeral. It doesn't matter where you go, or how far you fly. I will hunt you down, and the last thing you see will be my blade.

>>>OK Let me break in here for a sec. At this point I am goin Nooooo not the cliche no no no not again. But look what happens Next:<<<

(Captain)MAL
Darn.

(Captain) MAL kicks KROLL into the engine intakes. Horrible crunching sounds happen. A second one of NISKA's men is brought bound before him.

(Captain)MAL
Now this is all the money Niska gave us in advance.

NISKA'S MAN
Oh, I'm good. I speak for everyone. I'm right there with you.

Yeeeeeeesssss! Finally someone gets it. Someone threatens you with death you don't let him get away you snuff his nasty butt on the spot! In other words what would reallly happen!

I was hooked on the show from that point on and it only got better!

But of course it was on Fox's friday night time slot of death and got cancelled.

So if Trek wants to get their audience back they need to GET REAL!

269 posted on 02/25/2003 5:52:50 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: strela
Speaking of Trek cannon; after seeing First Contact, where Zefrem Cochrane was an Earthman on post-apocalyptic Earth that needed the Vulcans to save us from ourselves, I pretty much gave up on TNG. I'm just not terribly interested in the latest attempts by Brennan and Braga to mangle Trek.
270 posted on 02/25/2003 5:53:42 PM PST by Brett66
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To: discostu
The Lurker's Guide has been around a *long* time. I am suprised that it's still being update with announcements of DVD releases and such. I am thinking of buying the first four seasons. I taped a bunch of them (for my own personal use, of course) but the quality is not so good.

I didn't have cable when the 5th season was running on the Scf-Fi channel. Since I've caught a few re-runs, but I don't think they were up to the quality of the broadcast episodes. My theory is this was because most of the main plot points were wrapped up in season four, since UPN was going to cancel.

I was a rabid B5 fan for a while, and I got booted from at least one BBS for relentlessly ragging on Deep Space 9 and SeaQuest DSV. The only science fiction show that has caught my interest since has been Firefly.
271 posted on 02/25/2003 6:12:09 PM PST by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Tolik
I have In The Beginning in paperback, but I don't really read paperback spin-off series books like those that have been written about Star Wars and Star Trek. I'm not sure what it is I don't like about them. Maybe it is that the writers can't really make significant or permanent changes to the characters.
272 posted on 02/25/2003 6:17:11 PM PST by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Liberal Classic
since UPN was going to cancel.

Correction, Warner Brothers, not United Paramount.

273 posted on 02/25/2003 6:18:12 PM PST by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
There was a great show on Fox the begining of the season called Firefly!

I was hoping someone would mention Firefly. This was a very un-PC show, that was a funny mix of sci-fi and western. The main characters were war veterans who had fought an opressive government and lost, with firearms no less, and they even had a preacher shown in a respectable light played by Ron Glass (played Ron Harris from Barney Miller). Okay, he had a questionable past, but what they showed was a devout man trying to make sense of a corrupt world. He gave a sense of honor to a tough frontier preacher.

I wish Sci-Fi would pick it up and run it after Farscape and Stargate.

275 posted on 02/25/2003 6:23:35 PM PST by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Liberal Classic
I'd assumed Lurker's would have been gone a long time ago. 5th season (which was orginally on TNT... one of the Turner's) did have some issues because it's very existence was up in the air for so long that a lot of it's plot elements were moved forward. But it still had some good episodes (A View From the Gallery jumps immediately to mind, brilliant ep) and there were still some plot ends to tie up (the whole Centauri thing), plus Sleepinng in Light the series finale. Overall I'd say the biggest problem with 5th season was that it came after the amazing run that was 2nd, 3rd and 4th seasons, still 22 episodes that any other SF show would be proud to call theirs. Worth getting IMHO, at least rent it so you can see it, there are some definite jems.

Oh man SeaQuest, now that was a crappy show. Made Space Above and Beyond look well scripted and filled with interesting characters. DS9 was good near the end, it took them a while but that show really did blossom in the last 3 seasons. I kept meaning to catch Firefly but I didn't and now it's gone. SF on TV is real sketchy, I don't think SF really lends itself to the TV format. The Tremors series is supposed to start in March, that should at least be funny.
276 posted on 02/25/2003 6:34:20 PM PST by discostu (This tag intentionally left blank)
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To: discostu
I only caught a couple of the 5th season episodes, so I didn't get a feeling for the plot. I do think that 1 - 4 was a hard act to follow. Maybe I'll rent them...

Not having seen Space Above and Beyond, I can't comment except to say nothing could be worse that Wesley Crusher rip-off and a squeaking talking dolphin. Ack ack! ZAP!
277 posted on 02/25/2003 6:41:56 PM PST by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Liberal Classic
Pretty much the only ongoing plot left for season 5 was the end of the Centauri-Narn war and the destruction of Centauri. There were a few episodes dealing with a so-so telepath plot, plus some work on the post shadow war world. Basically it was like season 1, mostly stand alone eps and not tightly tied to the arc.

I barely made it through the premier of SeaQuest, I couldn't believe how little work they put into those characters. Most of them weren't even 1 dimensional, they were commercial characters, I kept looking for the boxes of soap. Then after that belly flopped Speilberg tried again with Earth 2, written by people who were proud that they'd never watched or read scifi before and felt they would be able to bring a "fresh perspective" to the genre, instead they rehashed generic plot that were old and tired when Asimov was in high school.
278 posted on 02/25/2003 6:59:54 PM PST by discostu (This tag intentionally left blank)
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To: pabianice
Beam the Vulcan babe down to a nudist planet. She's about the only reason I watch the show any more, and as it is, I put "That 70s Show" first in priority and catch Enterprise as a repeat showing on Saturday.
279 posted on 02/25/2003 7:03:14 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: pabianice
Wasn't there an episode about crew of the most recent cast going back in time to 1997 where they found the President had a heat seeking missile in his pants and wasn't afraid to use it.
Made for terrifying scenes.
280 posted on 02/25/2003 7:05:01 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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