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Posted on 02/25/2003 6:10:50 AM PST by Gopher Broke
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To: Grand Old Partisan
history books for the past 100 years or so have been written by Democrats This may be, but why is it, then, that when I was growing up through our infamous public edjerkashun system, it was always inferred that the North was right and Lincoln (patron saint of the Republican Party) should be celebrated? Yeah, I attended schools in northern states, but this just seems very odd if the "Orwellian" 'Rats truly controlled the textbooks.
Southern edjerkated FReepers chime in here.
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posted on
02/25/2003 6:43:21 AM PST
by
Xthe17th
(FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
To: stainlessbanner
Suport this movie and then help Ted Turner fund the UN.
Do you see Alec Baldwin flicks Also? He is small potatoes to the king of anti-America...Ted Turner is the anti-Christ
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posted on
02/25/2003 6:43:28 AM PST
by
Afronaut
To: stainlessbanner
I'll see the movie, but not until it comes out in video. In fact, it would be better to see such a long movie that way. The pro-Confederate/anti-USA stance of the movie is not a deal-breaker for me. What is troublesome is -- according to the reviews -- the endless speech-making, faulty editing, and other cinematic blunders.
My father, a WWII combat veteran, laughed at the notion that soldiers of any era quoted the classics or made erudite speeches before and during battles.
To: Xthe17th
It is too simplistics to think of the Civil War as between North v. South. Plenty of Democrats in the North, known as Copperheads, supported the Confederacy -- the New York City draft rioters, the Democrat candidates for governors of Illinois and Ohio who were paid Confederate agents, etc. In the South, the blacks (don't they count?) were pro-Union as were the "Billy Yanks in the Hills". For decades after the war, these hillbillies of Apallachia and the Ozarks remained staunch Republicans, as did the blacks.
And without Abraham Lincoln, we would not be living in the UNITED States of America, so all patriots should indeed celebrate him.
See
http://www.republicanbasics.com/
To: Gopher Broke
Ted Turner - Christian values ? Are you BLIND? Please take time and look outside your thoughts on this one. If Satan made a RARE good film with Christian values would you support it?
Not much difference.
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posted on
02/25/2003 6:49:30 AM PST
by
Afronaut
To: Afronaut
Did you see the movie?
To: Afronaut
What do Ted Turner, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Tom Daschle, Nancy Pelosi, and Ted Kennedy have in common with the Confederates? All Democrats!
To: Gopher Broke
I want to see the movie. However, it is a Ted Turner production. I'll wait for it to be on the sat dish.
To: Radioactive; kristinn; Angelwood; tgslTakoma; GunsareOK; BufordP; Congressman Billybob; ...
film is as accurate as possible to history. Yep. And a lot of this film was shot in my backyard - Winchester VA, Martinsburg WV, Sharpsburg PA, etc. The scene where Johhny Reb and Billy Yank exchanged tobbackie and coffee in the middle of the Rappohannock sure looked like the Shenandoah river by Harpers Ferry WV - low and lots of rocks.
It's interesting how there's so much history and historic old homes around here that camera shots could be mixed and matched - the background scenes (exterior AND interior) are in many cases authentic!
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posted on
02/25/2003 6:57:49 AM PST
by
Xthe17th
(FREE THE STATES. Repudiate the 17th amendment!)
To: mict42
I totally agree . All was done superbly well. I do believe that Stephen Lang's portrayal of General Jackson was of award winning calibre. Oh, I forgot, the people who give out such things probably never read a book and think this was "made up stuff" to make the South look good.
Lang WAS General T J Jackson.
To: Grand Old Partisan
Every Confederate soldier was a Democrat. The hatred within the Democratic Party for the UNITED States of America, the Constitution, ands the flag goes back to the 1860s and beyond. See http://www.republicanbasics.com/ to read about a history book from the Republican point of view.Do check your facts. A lot of Confederate soldiers were not Democrats but supported the Constitutional Union Party, which was another party that put up a candidate (Bell) in 1860. The terms Democratic and Republican have swapped meanings in the intervening 143 years, and during the War it was the Democrats who supported the positions most Republicans embrace now.
Why are you are so consumed with hatred for Confederates and the South now, 140 years later? What is the source of your abiding bitterness toward all these people who are dead and have done you no harm? You sound like a lot of black people who can't get over the fact that their great-great-great-grandparents were slaves.
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posted on
02/25/2003 6:59:26 AM PST
by
Capriole
(Foi vainquera)
To: azhenfud
Was planning to see it over the weekend, but hurt my back & was laid up all Sat. night & Sunday.
Mrs. CD and I will see it on Sat. night, hopefully... I'm excited.
CD
PS - I saw your name in the CV magazine last night... I'm glad you joined!
To: PJ-Comix
I might support this movie but ONLY if the director edits out Mrs. Chamberlain's farewell talk to her hubby. That went on and on and on and on and ate up valuable screen time for no useful purpose.You're right. And Mira Sorvino's casting as Mrs. Chamberlain was atrocious.
Happily, Kali Rocha's casting as Mary Anna Morrison Jackson was just about perfect.
To: let us cross over the river
Nice screen name.
Recently, I had the opportunity to see the house at Guinea Station where the General died... extremely moving.
To: Xthe17th; Corin Stormhands; sultan88; iceskater; Administrative Simplification; yankhater; ...
I KNEW I was gonna
LOVE THIS MOVIE the minute I saw that Daniel Neman of the Lib'ral RAG Richmond Times-DISGRACE said it sucked and gave it a one-star outta four!!
Neman's a LeftWing LOONIE...MUD
BTW...Sultan, you gotta git AdminSimp to shorten his screen name.
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posted on
02/25/2003 7:03:15 AM PST
by
Mudboy Slim
(The A.N.S.W.E.R., AshBOTS..."RE-Open the Gary Winnick Investigation...NOW!!")
To: stainlessbanner
Turner Calls Catholics Jesus Freaks Ted Turner, who in the past has managed to insult Christians, Poles, blacks and women, among others, called Catholic employees at a CNN gathering "Jesus freaks," according to Fox News and the New York Post, which is owned by the network. The occasion was a meeting in the Washington newsroom prior to a party for departing broadcaster Bernard Shaw, which took place on Ash Wednesday. Turner, who is co-founder of the news network, took notice of a few foreheads smudged with ash, according to the report. I was looking at this woman and I was trying to figure out what was on her forehead, he reportedly said. At first I thought you were in the [Seattle] earthquake. I realized youre just Jesus freaks. As Dumb As John Rocker Why would you support Ted Turner? Why would I see this Movie? Because it is good? |
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posted on
02/25/2003 7:03:23 AM PST
by
Afronaut
To: Afronaut
Back to Ted Turner Files Contact / Stats / Search
Clinton Praises Turner
Monday September 22, 1997 12:36 PM EDT
Clinton praises Turner
NEW YORK, Sept. 22 (UPI) _ President Clinton (Monday) praised CNN founder Ted Turner as a ``truly visionary American for his remarkable donation'' of $1 billion to strengthen U.N. humanitarian institutions. He also told the U.N. General Assembly he hoped others would follow Turner's gesture.
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posted on
02/25/2003 7:05:12 AM PST
by
Afronaut
To: WhiskeyPapa
Saying that Lincoln was basically evil, or had evil motives in what he did, is as crazy as saying that X42 was basically good. That doesn't mean people won't do it.
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posted on
02/25/2003 7:07:05 AM PST
by
185JHP
( Brisance. Puissance. Resolve.)
To: Capriole
The election of 1860 took place before the Confederacy was created. During the war, the Confederates shifted completely over to the Democratic Party. The eleven rebel states sent Representatives and Senators to the U.S. Congress in late 1865 -- everyone one of them, such as former Whig Alexander Stephens, was a Democrat.
I don't hate the South, not even the killers of 400,000 U.S. troops in the 1860s. The 200,000 southern blacks and 100,000 southern whites were southerners too.
To: Afronaut
Christianity is portrayed heavily (and accurately) in this film. All the men pray and look to our Lord for salvation throughout the movie.
I found it refreshing that a mainstream movie embraced strong leadership founded in Christian faith.
It was good to see strong Christian men protrayed favorably. If Turner is anti-Christian, atheist, etc....he didn't show that in the movie.
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