FREEPERS...Need to support movie GODS AND GENERALS

[Jael]

Bump.

[Jael]

Only if they can sit still for four hours. They may not be old enough to understand what is happening on screen. It has several loud battle scenes. I suspect 5 and 7 might be too young just yet.

[Jael]

I have to agree. I did go to this movie totally prepared to love it. But it could of easliy been edited down quite a lot and made better for it.

I did enjoy it though.

[Jael]

That speech was pretty campy. Jeff looked uncomfortable in his role. So did Duvall. I was surprised at that. But I did like the movie and would see it again.

[Jael]

Many of the things said during the movie were lifted verbatim from letters and reports written at the time. That having been said, the editing could have been better. :-)

[FBD]

"quitters"?

Mud, my kids are 27, 23, and 19...ya gotta quit havin kids sometime, and I've got 4 grandkids, 2 each from my oldest 2 kids.
My 19 year old better finish college, before she even thinks about marriage. :^(

And all at the ripe old age of 44...and I don't look a day older than 39...heh,heh..

I know the math don't add up...I adopted the oldest two.


FRegards,
FBD

[Jael]

About Lang, I thought he did a great job. But I suspect that Stonewall Jackson was probably less bombastic than played by Mr. Lang.

He did however do an excellent job with the material he was given.

He was also excellent in the role of George Pickett, in Gettysburg. He made Pickett come to life for me.

[Jael]

What? You are kidding? Chancellorsville paved over?

[Jael]

Ted Turner, for all his faults, has done a good thing with this movie.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

We tried to see it, but it was sold out. I won't get there this weekend, but will do so next week. The thread I read yesterday had such different opinions on the movie. Some people actually said it was boring, and others really liked it.

Sitting in a theater for 4 hrs doesn't bother me. Go early and find a good seat.

[BlackbirdSST]

I heard they have brought back the time honored traditon of the "intermission" back for this movie.

That would be a necessity for maintaining a dry seat, gaining in year's, and nothing works quite like it used to! I just hate missing parts of a movie. Someone in an earlier post say's the home video version is going to be around 6 hour's. Blackbird.

[weegee]

I'll save my money. Ted Turner bank rolled the entire production.

Ted is a godless man and anti-Christian.

Also I've heard that the DVD/video release will be significantly longer.

[WhiskeyPapa]

There were many slaves and freed blacks that fought. That you deny it means nothing to the fact.

No, there were not.

There is no creditible evidence of any number of black CSA soldiers:

"It's pure fantasy,' contends James McPherson, a Princeton historian and one of the nation's leading Civil War scholars. Adds Edwin Bearss, historian emeritus at the National Park Service: 'It's b.s., wishful thinking.' Robert Krick, author of 10 books on the Confederacy, has studied the records of 150,000 Southern soldiers and found fewer than a dozen were black. 'Of course, if I documented 12, someone would start adding zeros,' he says.

"These and other scholars say claims about black rebels derive from unreliable anecdotes, a blurring of soldiers and laborers, and the rapid spread on the Internet of what Mr. McPherson calls 'pseudohistory.' Thousands of blacks did accompany rebel troops -- as servants, cooks, teamsters and musicians. Most were slaves who served involuntarily; until the final days of the war, the Confederacy staunchly refused to enlist black soldiers.

"Some blacks carried guns for their masters and wore spare or cast-off uniforms, which may help explain eyewitness accounts of blacks units. But any blacks who actually fought did so unofficially, either out of personal loyalty or self-defense, many historians say.

"They also bristle at what they see as the disingenuous twist on political correctness fueling the black Confederate fad. 'It's a search for a multicultural Confederacy, a desperate desire to feel better about your ancestors,' says Leslie Rowland, a University of Maryland historian. 'If you suggest that some blacks supported the South, then you can deny that the Confederacy was about slavery and white supremacy.'

"David Blight, an Amherst College historian, likens the trend to bygone notions about happy plantation darkies.' Confederate groups invited devoted ex-slaves to reunions and even won Senate approval in 1923 for a "mammy" monument in Washington (it was never built). Black Confederates, Mr. Blight says, are a new and more palatable way to 'legitimize the Confederacy.'"

-- Wall Street Journal, May 8, 1997

"Mr. Wickham said that our brave soldiers, who have fought so long and nobly, would not stand to be thus placed side by side with negro soldiers. He was opposed to such a measure. The day that such a bill passed Congress sounds the death knell of this Confederacy. The very moment an order goes forth from the War Department authorizing the arming and organizing of negro soldiers there was an eternal end to this struggle.-(Voice-That's so.)

Gen. Howell Cobb, an unbeliever in this expedient, wrote from Macon, Ga., January 8, 1865: "I think that the proposition is the most pernicious idea that has been suggested since the war began. You cannot make soldiers of slaves or slaves of soldiers. The moment you resort to this your white soldiers are lost to you, and one reason why this proposition is received with favor by some portions of the army is because they hope that when the negro comes in they can retire. You cannot keep white and black troops together, and you cannot trust negroes alone. They won't make soldiers, as they are wanting in every qualification necessary to make one."

-- from the debate on arming the blacks in the rebel congress, February, 1865

Walt

[AdSimp]

"Yes, Administrative Simplification is much too long and hard to type in. If you want more pings, adsimp, you need a shorter name, ala Formerly Brainwashed Democrat becoming FBD."

OK I give! First let me at least check out what AdminSimp means in French or other surrender terms.

I still like Complexification. HIPAA has kept food on my table for 2 years now. Although I cringe whenever I visit my doctor, who is clueless about the federal mandate.

And yes, Richmond FReepers, lunch soon!

[Pagey]

"The production of Gods and Generals was fully funded by Ted Turner. My family will not see it for that reason alone".

A "Anti-American Ted Turner will receive none of my hard-earned money and can go to hell" BUMP

[Mudboy Slim]

Good to hear, AdSimp, we need to run up to the Patrick Henry Inn fer lunch soon...MUD

[GOPcapitalist]

Every Confederate soldier was a Democrat.

Actually that too is not true. Some were Constitutional Unionists from 1860 and old southern Whigs, including some in my own family.

[GOPcapitalist]

It is a neo-Confederate myth that any blacks at all fought for the Confederacy. In fact, such was specifically prohibited by CSA law until March 1865

Speeding is prohibited by law. Does that mean that it never happens as well?

[GOPcapitalist]

"Like the Bible, Lincoln can be quoted to prove about anything." - Walt

...and he claims he doesn't worship the guy.

[JFC]

they said 4 hours long and has a intermission. But very very good.