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Schoolkids told to consider oral sex
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| 21/02/02
| Matthew Jones
Posted on 02/21/2003 8:18:01 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
School children are to be controversially asked to consider oral sex instead of intercourse as part of a drive to cut the country's high teenage pregnancy rate.
Sex education teachers are being trained to discuss with youngsters various "stopping points" on the road to full sex in a bid to reduce the number of gymslip mums, the government said on Friday.
The idea is to encourage pupils to discover "levels of intimacy", including oral sex, which stop short of full sexual intercourse.
But the plan has been criticised as unworkable by family groups.
"The courses for teachers are to enable them to discuss various sex and relationship issues with pupils. One of those issues is oral sex," said a Department of Health spokeswoman.
"Oral sex is one of the 'stopping points' on the road to intercourse," she said, denying the advice was encouraging sexual activity.
"Another 'stopping point' is to hold hands," she added.
Family groups argue that oral sex is likely to lead to penetrative sex.
"One thing leads to another," said Robert Whelan, director of the Family Education Trust. "It is hard enough for adults to hold back and is even more difficult for teenagers with their raging hormones."
One teacher, who recently attended one of the courses, told the Times newspaper the advice could be construed as a green light to teens.
"By following this course, I feel that teachers are implicitly supporting underage sexual activity," said Lynda Brine.
Whelan also said oral sex was no protection against most sexually transmitted diseases.
"Delaying the onset of teenage sexual activity is the only way to cut teenage pregnancy," he told Reuters.
With nearly 39,000 girls under 18 conceiving each year, Britain has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Western Europe. The government wants to halve it by 2010.
In line with that aim, students have already been offered condoms, oral contraceptives and easier access to counsellors in schools.
The Department of Education said on Friday sex education was determined by individual schools.
"We give guidelines but we don't dictate what material is used," a spokeswoman said. "We trust head teachers and teachers to make sensible decisions about sex education."
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: educationnews; homeschoollist; homosexualagenda; thissucks
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To: AppyPappy
You make teens sound like immoral animals. Not immoral, just horny to the point of being irrational. The point I was originally trying to make is that this person doesn't really give any workable solutions other than the knee-jerk "don't do it!" stuff. He could at least advocate masturbation (which is definitely preferable to oral sex), but then again we had a Surgeon General lose her job championing that!
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posted on
02/21/2003 11:46:57 AM PST
by
Sirloin
To: Jakarta ex-pat
In my opinion, oral sex is more intimate than the traditional bumping of uglies.
To: Sirloin
Teens commit suicide too. Should we throw in the towel and offer safe ways to do it?
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posted on
02/21/2003 11:50:34 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
To: GSWarrior
Ha Ha He He
To: Hemingway's Ghost
I agree with you. Much, much more intimate than casual boinking.
To: TontoKowalski
About 95% of the Freeper population falls into at least one of those categories. Oh, if only it involved pot somehow....
To: Jakarta ex-pat
"Oral sex is one of the 'stopping points' on the road to intercourse," she said, denying the advice was encouraging sexual activity. LOL! If oral sex isn't sex than why does it have "sex" in the title?
What morons!
To: Hemingway's Ghost
Well, now, people can fall into more than one category...Oral sex fans and pot smokers aren't necessarily mutually exclusive demographics...likewise potsmoking homeschooolers, WOD Bible-thumpers, etc.
To: Lunatic Fringe
Honestly... Has anyone here ever dated someone, had oral sex, and said "Ok, that's good enough, we can stop there." Yes.
To: Sirloin
But there are NO real "workable" solutions. The only way I can think of to really reduce the number of teens having sex is to change the culture so that teens are not alone together.
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posted on
02/21/2003 12:02:13 PM PST
by
Dianna
To: Jakarta ex-pat
To: realpatriot71
"I agree that adults can make this distinction, but teenagers? While, I think there may be some unusually mature teenagers out there, most are not going to be able to stop - I wasn't able to stop at that age."
I most definitely was not a very mature teenager, but I can remember three partners where we went just this far, stopped and never went any further. At least where I grew up (in a conservative Southern city), many girls thought this was OK but going "all the way" was not. And this was 20 years before I had even heard of Bill Clinton. The idea that oral sex isn't the same as sex has been around for quite a while.
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posted on
02/21/2003 12:06:05 PM PST
by
kegler4
To: Jakarta ex-pat
I thought this was about Miss Germany going to Iraq.
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posted on
02/21/2003 12:13:44 PM PST
by
husky ed
(FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
To: kegler4
I suppose on can make the argument that girls would be more likely to stop than boys, for the number one reason that girls get pregnant. I think you offer sex to most teenage boys who are brimming with hormones and having been brought to the point of oral sex, most will gladly take the next step no matter how mature. Biology is a bitch sometimes.
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posted on
02/21/2003 1:01:02 PM PST
by
realpatriot71
(legalize freedom!)
To: drunknsage
Taut is a good word except when you mean taught; promiscuous behavior sometimes occurs when certain tissue becomes taut.
To: AppyPappy
Teens commit suicide too. Should we throw in the towel and offer safe ways to do it? Apples and oranges. You equate masturbation with suicide?
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posted on
02/21/2003 2:43:12 PM PST
by
Sirloin
To: Jakarta ex-pat
Not quite what God had in mind when he created man, male and female!
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posted on
02/21/2003 2:45:06 PM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: Sirloin
I equate teen sexual behavior with suicide. It's just a slower method
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posted on
02/21/2003 2:49:06 PM PST
by
AppyPappy
(Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.)
To: Jakarta ex-pat
God created sex for marriage bonding and procreation. (Note the period at the end of that sentence.)
Libertine social engineers have succeeded to a great extent, in their century of focused effort to divorce sex from marriage and from child birth. Tens of millions of babies killed in the womb testify to it. So do the myriad victims of AIDS and other STD's. The Sexual Revolution is a revolution of mass murder and mayhem.
Teens (and adults) don't only do bodily damage to each other when they have sex unwed. They do damage of the heart and mind and not only to themselves, but to others who become aware of their peers' behavior as an "alternative lifestyle."
And like it or not, sin is deadly and death is hardly a lifestyle.
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posted on
02/21/2003 9:45:13 PM PST
by
unspun
(HOLLYWOOD DECLARE AND DISMANTLE YOUR WEAPONS OF MASS DYSFUNCTION)
To: Jakarta ex-pat
Another example of why liberalism is idiocy.
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posted on
02/21/2003 9:48:53 PM PST
by
Bullish
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