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ADL: Accounts on net blaming Israel, Jews for Columbia's downing proliferating
The Jerusalem Post ^ | 19 February 2003 | MELISSA RADLER

Posted on 02/19/2003 2:15:15 PM PST by anotherview

Feb. 19, 2003
ADL: Accounts on net blaming Israel, Jews for Columbia's downing proliferating
By MELISSA RADLER

NEW YORK - Conspiracy theories blaming Jews and Israel for the disintegration of NASA space shuttle Columbia last month are circulating the Internet at an alarming rate, the Anti-Defamation League said Wednesday.

The online hate speech, tracked by the ADL on Web sites, chat rooms, bulletin boards and e-mails, includes allegations the US and Israel destroyed the Columbia to divert attention from the Iraq conflict, that Israeli astronaut Ilan Ramon was a spy, and that Jews and Israelis were complicit in the shuttle's downing in order to gain sympathy for Israel.

"Even in times of tragedy for the American people, the anti-Semites and hatemongers never let up," said ADL national director Abraham Foxman.

The ADL's sources include a February 4 posting by author Gordon Thomas accusing Ramon of conducting secret military experiments in space, a February 17 article by Hong Kong journalist Yoichi Clark Shimatsu that accused the US and Israel of sabotaging the shuttle to ensure the crew's status as martyrs, and a message from radical British sheikh, Abu Hamza Al-Masri: "This is a divine message to the Israelis, saying that they are not welcome in space." Al-Masri made this comment to London-based daily Al Sharq Al-Awsat on February 4.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adl; antisemetism; arabs; columbia; ilanramon; israel; jews; spaceshuttle

1 posted on 02/19/2003 2:15:15 PM PST by anotherview
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To: anotherview
includes allegations the US and Israel destroyed the Columbia to divert attention from the Iraq conflict, that Israeli astronaut Ilan Ramon was a spy, and that Jews and Israelis were complicit in the shuttle's downing in order to gain sympathy for Israel.

Lol. They must have been reading "LibertyForum", John Deere's, Texoma's and The_Skunk's little Zundelsite-subsidiary :)).

2 posted on 02/19/2003 2:21:40 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: anotherview
The online hate speech, tracked by the ADL on Web sites, chat rooms, bulletin boards and e-mails, includes allegations the US and Israel destroyed the Columbia to divert attention from the Iraq conflict, that Israeli astronaut Ilan Ramon was a spy, and that Jews and Israelis were complicit in the shuttle's downing in order to gain sympathy for Israel.

While I consider these ideas nutty, I did have one slightly outlandish thought myself...although not anti-Semitic like thopse above. That thought was regarding the possibility of Ilan Ramon being on the flight as a "payload specialist" in order to release an Israeli surveillance satellite into geostationary orbit above the Middle East.

I think my idea is not quite so nutty as the ones listed above, but still a long shot. Does the DOD have to reveal military missions that are performed by the shuttle?

3 posted on 02/19/2003 2:27:54 PM PST by ez (WHERE'S THE POLLING DATA ON THE ESTRADA FILIBUSTER???)
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To: Cachelot
"Tom Daschle and Nancy Pelosi have issued a joint statement that Bush shot Columbia down from Crawford, Texas. He actually was aiming and a flock of Geese, but missed."
4 posted on 02/19/2003 2:29:48 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: Cachelot
I hear zee Zundle biggie may be deported.
5 posted on 02/19/2003 2:33:21 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: anotherview
The day after the Columbia, broke up, my wife was standing in line at an ATM, talking with another woman about the space shuttle, when some a--hole came by and said, "At least we got rid of one more of those Israelis."

When my wife stared him down, he said. "Well, they blew up the World Trade Center. What's your problem?"

"My problem," my wife said, "Is that I'm looking at a piece of sh-t." Things deteriorated from there -- my wife almost cold-cocked the guy and says she regrets not doing. She went back to her car to cool down and, when she looked back at the ATM, the guy was long gone.

Comments like that about Israel make her hear bagpipes.
6 posted on 02/19/2003 2:35:12 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Haiku and "Unintended Consquences" just don't mix.)
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To: ez
While I consider these ideas nutty

Extremely nutty :).

the possibility of Ilan Ramon being on the flight as a "payload specialist" in order to release an Israeli surveillance satellite into geostationary orbit above the Middle East.

Nah. Not necessary, Israel has the capability to do that all by itself. The payloads in the shuttle were harmless experiments, with the possible exception of one.

That one experiment was a "Palestinian student experiment" sponsored by the high-school where this Palestinian is a guest student. I don't know, at the moment what was in it. If I remember it was supposed to se some kind of chem experiment, but I'd have to go and have another look.

However, there are at least a couple of things pointing to a possible explosion: persistent rumours that the last word to be transmitted from the shuttle was a partial word that might be "bomb", and recently released data that nasa thought their sensors detected an explosion aboard.

Other really, really strange factoids include the animals (two deer and three cows) that are being quarantined under the control of a nasa veterinary with strange symptoms after "possibly having come near shuttle debris". That one is on public record on ProMed, as is the fact that Texas is now having the strangest flu season in recorded history with five different flu strains running simultaneously.

7 posted on 02/19/2003 2:49:48 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: dennisw
I hear zee Zundle biggie may be deported.

Oh yes. They tried to foist him off on Canada, and Canada has now declared he's unwanted, I believe. He's now trying to obtain refugee status there. He may have a problem, since when he ran off to the US he was screaming about not wanting anything more to do with Canada, ever :)).

With any luck, he goes back to Germany where he's wanted for desertion as well as his zundel-cr*p, hopefully to die extremely nastily in jail. Texoma and her team on "LibertyForum" think he'll be executed by the ZOG govt, of course ;).

8 posted on 02/19/2003 2:55:19 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
Mass psychosis over there. Is Liberty Forum really a Mossad operation?
9 posted on 02/19/2003 3:01:37 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: dennisw
Mass psychosis over there

Well, that's what you get where you have psychos massing :)).

10 posted on 02/19/2003 3:05:02 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
The überpsycho-->
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=issues_misc&Number=452294&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1&t=0#Post452294
11 posted on 02/19/2003 3:23:03 PM PST by dennisw ( http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php)
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To: anotherview
Yes, we have to watch those Jews.

Next thing you know they'll be turning desert land into truck farms.

We couldn't have that, y'know. Yassir might not like it.

America's Fifth Column ... watch Steve Emerson/PBS documentary JIHAD! In America
New Link: Download 8 Mb zip file here (60 minute video)

Who is Steve Emerson?

12 posted on 02/19/2003 4:55:07 PM PST by JCG
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To: Cachelot; dennisw
a February 17 article by Hong Kong journalist Yoichi Clark Shimatsu that accused the US and Israel of sabotaging the shuttle to ensure the crew's status as martyrs

Wrong religions! Sheeeeeesh. "Journalist", no surprise there.

13 posted on 02/19/2003 5:02:59 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: anotherview
...includes allegations the US and Israel destroyed the Columbia to divert attention from the Iraq conflict...

Well, if true, it certainly worked like a charm.

NOT!

15 posted on 02/19/2003 5:05:54 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: FlaLawyer
How is the ADL tracing E-mails? I can see chat rooms, but I hope no one sees my e-mails.

Spam.

16 posted on 02/19/2003 11:54:47 PM PST by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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