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Three mystery ships are tracked over suspected 'weapons' cargo
independent.co.uk ^ | 2/19/03

Posted on 02/18/2003 4:47:00 PM PST by knak

Three giant cargo ships are being tracked by US and British intelligence on suspicion that they might be carrying Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

Each with a deadweight of 35,000 to 40,000 tonnes, the ships have been sailing around the world's oceans for the past three months while maintaining radio silence in clear violation of international maritime law, say authoritative shipping industry sources.

The vessels left port in late November, just a few days after UN weapons inspectors led by Hans Blix began their search for the alleged Iraqi arsenal on their return to the country.

Uncovering such a deadly cargo on board would give George Bush and Tony Blair the much sought-after "smoking gun" needed to justify an attack on Saddam Hussein's regime, in the face of massive public opposition to war.

The ships were chartered by a shipping agent based in Egypt and are flying under the flags of three different countries. The continued radio silence since they left port, in addition to the captains' failure to provide information on their cargoes or their destinations, is a clear breach of international maritime laws.

The vessels are thought to have spent much of their time in the deep waters of the Indian Ocean, berthing at sea when they need to collect supplies of fuel and food. They have berthed in a handful of Arab countries, including Yemen.

American and British military forces are believed to be reluctant to stop and search the vessels for fear that any intervention might result in them being scuttled. If they were carrying chemical and biological weapons, or fissile nuclear material, and they were to be sunk at sea, the environmental damage could be catastrophic.

Washington and London might also want to orchestrate any raids so that they can present the ships as "evidence" that President Saddam is engaged in "material breach" of UN resolutions. This could provide the trigger for military strikes. While security sources in London last night were unable to provide information on any surveillance operation, the movement of the three ships is the source of growing concern among maritime and intelligence experts.

A shipping industry source told The Independent: "If Iraq does have weapons of mass destruction, then a very large part of its capability could be afloat on the high seas right now. These ships have maintained radio silence for long periods and, for a considerable time, they have been steaming around in ever-decreasing circles."

The ships are thought to have set sail from a country other than Iraq to avoid running the gauntlet of Western naval vessels patrolling the Gulf. Defence experts believe that, if they are carrying weapons of mass destruction, these could have been smuggled out through Syria or Jordan.

Despite hundreds of searches by UN inspectors, no evidence has yet been found of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programmes. A succession of "dossiers" presented by Downing Street has been criticised for providing inaccurate information, with the most recent one subject to ridicule because a student's 11-year-old doctoral thesis was being passed off as current intelligence. There was a further setback for Washington and London when the accuracy of satellite photographs shown to the United Nations by Colin Powell, the Secretary of State, purporting to show Iraqi officials moving incriminating evidence from a suspected site, was questioned by Hans Blix.

Mr Blix said: "The reported movement of munitions at the site could just as easily have been a routine activity as a movement of proscribed munitions in anticipation of an imminent inspection."

Attempts to link the Iraqi regime to al-Qa'ida and other Islamist groups have also been met with scepticism. The UN says, though, that Iraq has failed to account for 1,000 tonnes of chemical agents from the war against Iran; to reveal the whereabouts of 6,500 missing chemical rockets; to produce evidence it has destroyed 8,500 litres of anthrax; and to account for 380 rocket engines smuggled into Iraq with chemicals used for missile propellants and control systems.

Intelligence reports, and some Iraqi defectors, have maintained that incriminating material and documents relating to weapons of mass destruction have been buried in remote parts of the country and have also been hidden in a variety of locations including homes of officials and scientists, as well as mosques. There have also been claims that chemical and biological products have been smuggled into Syria.


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To: Fabozz
Yep. Too obvious. A likely distraction or feint while the real threats are more circumspect, pretending to be legitimate cargo carriers.
121 posted on 02/18/2003 7:06:22 PM PST by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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To: mountaineer
Liberia or some other African country?

flying under the flags of three different countries

France, Germany and Russia?

122 posted on 02/18/2003 7:07:04 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: mountaineer
Liberia or some other African country?

flying under the flags of three different countries

France, Germany and Russia?

123 posted on 02/18/2003 7:07:05 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: CyberAnt
DPRK = Democratic People's Republic of Korea = North Korea
124 posted on 02/18/2003 7:07:18 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: knak
If true, why in the hell is this in the news?
125 posted on 02/18/2003 7:07:36 PM PST by Godfollow
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To: GOPJ
Tonga
126 posted on 02/18/2003 7:08:26 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: knak
So,......just what 'locations' are these 3 ships at.....NOW?
127 posted on 02/18/2003 7:10:59 PM PST by maestro
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To: guitfiddlist; harpseal
Why risk SEALs? 688 boats. MK-48's.
128 posted on 02/18/2003 7:11:08 PM PST by FreedomPoster (This Space Intentionally Blank)
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To: FairOpinion
And as the article said, if we sank them, they may contaminate the oceans, killing all life, and spreading disease, which may spread to humans.

There is nothing more cleansing and diluting than trillions of gallons of water.

129 posted on 02/18/2003 7:13:37 PM PST by Tennessean4Bush
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To: FreedomPoster
I know its not very far, but how far out is it to international waters?
130 posted on 02/18/2003 7:15:56 PM PST by TBall
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To: VaBthang4
"You're setting yourself up for international ridicule if they dont have any weapons aboard"

Hmmmm? That's a good point. Maybe that's the Independant's plan ...?? A way to embarrass Blair; undermine his credibility.
131 posted on 02/18/2003 7:16:58 PM PST by CyberAnt ( Yo! Syracuse)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Right. Capt Blix will nab him.

He's the guy with the patch over both eyes, right??

132 posted on 02/18/2003 7:17:28 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: knak
Scuttle-Bump
133 posted on 02/18/2003 7:17:34 PM PST by Constitutional Patriot (The left will always fail in a competitive marketplace of ideas...especially talk radio.)
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To: Tennessean4Bush; lizma
I am willing to accept the notion, that I may be a bit paranoid, but it sure sounds to me, like I am not the only one, either that, or maybe it's not just paranoia, but they may know more than we do.

"American and British military forces are believed to be reluctant to stop and search the vessels for fear that any intervention might result in them being scuttled. If they were carrying chemical and biological weapons, or fissile nuclear material, and they were to be sunk at sea, the environmental damage could be catastrophic."

134 posted on 02/18/2003 7:19:19 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: timestax
ping
135 posted on 02/18/2003 7:20:37 PM PST by muggs
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To: GOPJ; Lion's Cub; Cindy; Alamo-Girl; Squantos; Travis McGee; Miss Marple; All
Searching on the ship's names produces some interesting results:

- "Croatia searchs ship carrying explosives allegedly bound for Iraq," AFP via spacedaily.com, http://www.spacedaily.com/news/021025170021.cs4byrg4.html. Oct 25, 2002

ZAGREB (AFP) Croatian police continued to search Friday a cargo ship on which they had seized smuggled military explosives, which according to local media reports were allegedly bound for Iraq. The twelve crew members of the Boka Star, who are Yugoslav citizens, are still being held at the ship, the interior ministry said in a statement. The search of the Boka Star, sailing under the Tonga island flag, started immediately after it sailed into the northern Adriatic port of Rijeka on Tuesday after police acted upon a tip. So far, police have searched eight of a total of 14 containers on the ship and found military explosive devices. Police said that their investigation will seek to determine all the circumstances relating to the Boka Star and its cargo, including the ship's exact route, final destination and owners of the cargo.

Croatian media reported that the explosives found on the Boka Star, allegedly owned by a Montenegrin citizen, Marko Balic, were bound for Iraq. Croatian media also speculated that the search of the ship might be linked with recent discoveries of sales of fighter aircraft spare parts made by a Bosnian Serb company to Iraq in violation of a United Nations arms embargo.

The reports said that the shipments of aircaft parts to Iraq were routed through the Montenegrin port of Bar, from which the Boka Star had sailed out before entering Croatia's territorial waters. Croatia's interior ministry said that the search of the Boka Star could be concluded as soon as on Saturday.

136 posted on 02/18/2003 7:21:00 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa
I just read this thread. I will do some research myself, but may not get back to you until tomorrow.
137 posted on 02/18/2003 7:22:35 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: knak
OCTOBER 31, 2002 : (CRAOTIA INVESTIGATION OF THE SHIP 'BOKA STAR' UNCOVERS EXPLOSIVES) CROATIAN authorities, aided by investigators from Interpol, are continuing to examine the Boka Star, detained in the port of Rijeka under suspicion of transporting an illicit military cargo for Iraq. Croatia's interior ministry said on Tuesday it was trying to identify the explosives, earlier described as "multipurpose", which were seized during the search of 240 tonnes of cargo on board the Tonga-flagged ship. The explosive materials found on the vessel have been removed and stored in a secure warehouse outside Rijeka. - http://www.bicc.de/milex/homepg/tracker.php3?action=show&input%5Bid%5D=4101, reported in Bonn International Center for Conversion, November 5, 2002
138 posted on 02/18/2003 7:25:22 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa
...the captain said they knew nothing about seafaring.

This is sorta their mark. Learning to fly planes without learning how to take off or land, saying they are sailors without having a clue how to work a ship.

This "I'm a clueless Middle Easterner, teach me" stuff has outlived it's usefullness. At least I hope.

139 posted on 02/18/2003 7:26:01 PM PST by lizma
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To: lizma
If you're right, when the war starts, we should take them out...

I don't know. We've got three ships sailing around, violating of international maritime law. They had to figure they would be noticed. How much enviro damage can they do? I think smallpox and the chemicals would be toast. I know anthrax spores to be a tad hearty, but months in salt water, so diluted, I don't see how blowing them to smithereens would be a big deal.

140 posted on 02/18/2003 7:26:47 PM PST by GOPJ
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