PROTESTORS AREN'T ANTI-WAR, They are anti-Bush and anti-American

[1Old Pro]

Can we face the truth?

These peacenick protestors who can't explain why they are against a war saying:

• Give peace a chance
• Let the inspectors have more time
• Blix says he's making progress
• A war will make us more enemies
• It's all about oil

They don't have any serious arguments for opposition.

The fact is, they are ANTI-BUSH FIRST, ANTI-AMERICAN SECOND, and protesting the war just gives them a reason to publicaly oppose Bush.

I recently called in a local talk radio show where the host was debating to protestors. They had no arguments, just platitudes. I asked them if they weren't so much anti-war as they were anti-Bush. I asked them if they voted for Bush, of course they did not. They "bristeled" at the question because they were flushed out.

Bottom line, the "protestors" are mainly Gore voters and Nadar voters who want to protest Bush. The war gives them that vehivle to protest. If protestors were polled, 99% would have to admit they they did not vote for Bush. If the anti-war movement had any good reasons to oppose war they would be more like 50%-50% voting for Bush.

CONCLUSION: what we have here is anti-Bush, anti-American protestors. Ask them if they voted for Bush and find out for yourself.

[Alamo-Girl]

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[justshutupandtakeit]

Iraq is and has been the center of terror for the ME. It has been involved with all major terrorist networks including Al Quida. It harbors terrorists involved with the first WTC attacks. It was more than likely the source of the anthrax used to attack us fall of 2001. It allows Al Quida networks refuge and assistance in N. Iraq.

Some of the demonstrators Sat. were not anti-American such as the Buddhists. Others were just from the legion of Useful Idiots the Commies are so adept at collecting. More are ignorant kids. Some are, like the group carrying the picture of Paul Wellstone with Murdered by the Bushmob, screwballs.

Most, like you, are part of the Blame America first brigade, and also vehemently anti-Bush. Who that trusts Saddam more than Bush are NOT anti-American.

If you truly believe Saddam is no threat you obviously have not been paying attention for the last twenty years. Are you unaware of the FACT that he harbored OBL's right hand man after the action in Afganistan made it too hot there for him and he needed medical treatment? And that he now operates in N. Iraq?

Your status as a vet does not protect you from people willing and able to call you misinformed if not deluded. If you trust Saddam more than Bush then you are also anti-American.

[MJM59]

As much as I do not like the idea of war with Iraq, I am afraid that the die has been cast and it is only a matter of time. For one, to back down now would make the U.S. look like a lame paper tiger. All talk and no action.

My opposition to the war is simply that Iraq does not scare me that much. As a child of the Cold War, the idea of nuclear war with the Soviet Union scared the pants off of me. So forgive me if I do not get too upset with the likes of Iraq or North Korea. Just how afraid are we supposed to be of every country that is now nuclear capable? Heck, they don't even have to be capable, what if they just buy the technology.

Right now our own government has people scared enough to go out and buy duct tape and plastic by the gross. Last week, you had the CIA, the FBI and Tom Ridge come on TV and tell us that something terrible is going to happen, buy these items they will protect you. Then we learn that Iran is starting up a nuclear program. Welcome to The Fear Factor, the national game. The real terrorists have to be rolling on the floor laughing their collective a$$e$ off at us. They don't have to do a thing and we as a nation jump at every little shadow.

Saddam Hussein is a thirdrate dictator and we have him elevated to the likes of Ghengis Khan. Personally, I would tell him and Kim Jong Il to go ahead and build all the WMD they want. But don;'t even look at the U.S. sideway because we have more and we will use them to flatten your little p!$$ @$$ countries.

[GOP_1900AD]

You ought to rethink your actions. No matter what your rationale, by openly supporting a "peace movement" funded by the international Communist movement, you are getting a bit borderline yourself. If you feel so strongly about your views, then why don't you organize a separate protest movement not including the Communists? In fact, vehemently ban them from your protests! At least, do something to distinguish yourself!

[Air Assault]

I'm not a part of our Government Intelligence Community as you appear to be, so the following comments are merely my opinion.

#1. I believe Iraq is an immediate threat. A dictator of his sort, especially after having his ass whipped once/scorned bitch, in my opinion, supports terrorist organizations plotting against us. And thus, is trying to acquire WMD's.

#2. Bush is selling the war, as you call it, because a lot of people don't fully understand the threat Iraq poses. (clinton legacy) Bush isn't wasting time, it takes time to mobilize troops. The 101st is just now mobilizing. (Whoah?)

#3. Iraq has been in violation of it's surrender agreement for twelve (12) years.

#4. I don't believe you're an airborne_vet. because you left the fight at post #14.

#5. You voted for AL Gore and feel betrayed.

#6. You have the "Human Shield" option.

[GOP_1900AD]

If only Barb Olson were still around to comment on all of this! I guess the task is now on all of our shoulders. They have their martyrs, and we've got ours...

[1Old Pro]

RUSH is concluding the same. Protestors are anti-Bush & Anti-American

[cloud8]

Answer them back! These time-worn platitudes do not hold up!! Here are some suggestions:

Give peace a chance

Get real, Flower Child. This lunatic Saddam has had more than a decade to disarm peacefully. Now it's time to give war a chance. We need to rid the world of Saddam and his arsenal of anthrax, chemicals and nukes before he uses it.

Let the inspectors have more time

That's what people were saying when Saddam threw the inspectors out in 1997. The inspectors can have another 20 years, but they're not going to find anything as long as Saddam plays his shell game.

Blix says he's making progress

Hans Blix was hand-picked by Saddam.

A war will make us more enemies

A war will show the world that America means what it says.

It's all about oil

If we had wanted the oil, we easily could have taken it in the first Gulf War. It's France & Russia who have billions at stake over Iraq oil deals. Setting up a stable democracy in the mid-East is what it's about.

[Steve_Seattle]

"setting up a stable democracy in the Middle East is what it's all about"

I agree, I think that's the main motive, and hardly anyone has mentioned this angle. I think all the talk about WMD is basically an excuse (not to say that SH probably doesn't have some stashed away), and that our real goal is to try to help create a democratic Iraq as a model for the Arab world. Iraq has the best infrastructure to do this, plus it is already operating on a largely secular model.

[mabelkitty]

I always say that our current North Korean problems are a direct result of Bill Clinton's appeasement and containment plan.

Then I ask is somebody wants to do this again, but on a much worse scale, with Iraq.

They always seem to come around after that.

[1Old Pro]

Their reasons are easily debated and they love to debate them. They offer up more circular reasoning. I don't bother to argue because it's not about war. It's about their hatred for Bush so I cut to the chase and ask them why the hate Bush.

[knighthawk]

Mark Steyn: The curtain will come down on the peaceniks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/845920/posts

[TigersEye]

airborne_vet has been banned.

I can't imagine that it was due to his posts on this thread so he must have been disrupting a little more antagonistically elsewhere. It was fairly obvious that he was a troll but his arguments were dealt with calmly and rationally which is probably not what he expected. Or wanted. ; )

[flamefront]

The best analysis I have see was Ben Stein who said these people are predominatly depressed and express their psychological state while having little awareness of the geopolitical issues involved.

That aside, the leaders appear to just be leftover socialists and communists, see:

• FrontPageMag: The Next "Peace" Protest Will Be Brought to You By a Castro Groupie, really!
• Attention FReepsearchers: What do we know about "United for Peace & Justice"?
• The march to save Saddam
• Insight: Marching for Saddam.

[TPartyType]

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[TPartyType]

John, Intelligent post. Pretty good for your first one. But, what if you're wrong. What if Saddam is close to nukes. You presume he has no interest in using them. This administration argues he's a megalomaniacal butcher who has both us and Israel in his crosshairs. I agree with you that the allusion to Hitler is exaggerated, but, Saddam is certainly inclined to use WMD against the US. Answer me this:

If given the chance, and he knew he could get away with it, do you think Saddam would detonate a suitcase nuke in Washington, DC or New York City?

I rest my case. We need to disarm him before he has the chance.

[eleni121]

Indeed, they were very happy when Clinton was bombing the Yogoslavs without permission from the UN.

If you remember (I do) there were the hard core left that was opposed to any NATO incursions in Yugoslavia - after all Slobo was a brother in thought to these guys. They were also talking about no war for oil in that terrible episode.

And let's not forget there were Christian conservatives opposed to that war as well. It was quite an interesting bunch. I actually organized a teach in against Clinton's bombing of Yugoslavia (even though Slobo is a bastard).