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French Get Taste of American Hostility at DC Rally
CNSNews.com | 2-14-03 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 02/17/2003 1:31:22 PM PST by Temple Owl

French Get Taste of American Hostility at DC Rally

By Robert B. Bluey

CNSNews.com Staff Writer

February 14, 2003

(CNSNews.com) - The French Embassy in Washington, D.C, was the site of protests Thursday, as dozens of American college students asked France to end its obstructionism at the U.N. Security Council regarding how to deal with Iraq and its dictator, Saddam Hussein.

The students, mostly from nearby American University and Georgetown University, waved flags, held signs, sang patriotic songs and led chats. Several people driving by honked their horns and yelled out their support, although the students were met with some disapproval.

The student's main contention was what they called France's "appeasement for terror" as well as its isolationist stance, according to Bob Nardo, president of the American University College Republicans, which organized the gathering and released an opinion piece chastising the French government.

"The French unilateralism is standing in the way of the majority of the Security Council and a large number of countries that want to stand up and get rid of the threat from Iraq," he said. "We're out here to show that there's a large grassroots segment of America that's standing with the president."

Several students said they supported a boycott of French goods, such as wine and cheese. Others criticized France's unwillingness to stand side-by-side with the United States, despite America's aid to Europe during First and Second World Wars.

"We're tired of Jacque Chirac's senseless rhetoric," Georgetown student Jimmy Ross said. "We've given 12 years of disarmament a try and it's been slapped back in our face with 9/11, the USS Cole bombing, numerous other terrorist attacks, and we're tired of it and we're not going to stand for it any more."

About a half-hour into the protest, anti-war demonstrators from Georgetown Peace Action showed up to begin a counter-protest. They called for a continuation of the U.N. weapons inspections.

Although anti-French protesters outnumbered anti-war demonstrators, France does have the support of some Americans, like Georgetown student Emil Totonchi, who braved the cold weather Thursday to defend France's actions.

"France has done a unbelievable job of opposing the United States urgent need to attack Iraq," he said. "I would like the inspections to work, and even if the inspections do work and they find weapons, that still doesn't mandate an invasion of Iraq. In fact, use the inspections to disarm Iraq."

The two groups had little interaction, but at one point, Secret Service agents and D.C. police officers had to separate the demonstrators, who were situated across the street from the embassy, located in a wooded residential area of northwest Washington.

Neither group elicited a response from the French Embassy, although at 5 p.m. EST, as workers begin leaving the compound, Nardo used a bullhorn to drum up students' chants. Most workers looked the other way as they drove off.

Emmanuel Gagniarre, a spokesman for the French Embassy, said he had not witnessed the rally, but he downplayed its importance.

"I don't think one should be worried about that kind of demonstration, which is perfectly normal in a democracy," Gagniarre said.

Franco-American Friction Grows

The negative feelings about France are not limited to protests in Washington, according to Chantal Glass, director of Chicago's French-American Chamber of Commerce, an organization that fosters business relationships between the two countries.

"I've never seen a reaction like this in my life in the United States," Glass said. "There is big resentment on the American side. I don't know what it will be a week from now, but right now I find the reaction pretty violent."

Glass said she has not heard from any of the chamber's members in the Chicago area, but she warned that a boycott of French goods would ultimately hurt small American businesses that cater to specialties like wine and cheese.

Anthony A. Smith, president of the French-American Foundation, located in New York City, said relations between the United States and Europe are quite bad at the moment. Smith, however, took issue with Americans who have targeted France. He said Germany has been even more reluctant to support the United States, yet encounters little criticism.

Smith blamed the universalistic characteristics of France and the United States partly for the resentment. He said both countries believe they are superior and want others to follow their lead. As a result, they sometimes find themselves at odds, brewing hostility.

"Most American people feel that a preemptive strike against potential menaces is a good thing," he said. "In Europe, they just don't perceive the threat the same way. They were not directly attacked. They have lived with a lingering undercurrent of terrorism in those countries for a long time. In France, it's an issue, but not the most important issue."

No matter what happens with Iraq, Smith predicted Americans would not continue to hold a grudge against the French.

Part of the problem, Gagniarre said, is a lack of information on both sides of Atlantic.

"We get all kinds of calls and all types of reaction," Gagniarre said. "It would be a pity to boycott French products, but what can we do?"

Gagniarre blamed his embassy for not clearly conveying France's position. The country's ambassador to the United States, Jean-David Levitte, tried to clarify that position in an opinion piece published in Friday's New York Times


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americanu; collegerepublicans; collegestudents; dcchapter; french; frenchembassy; georgetownu; hostility; protests; students
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These are college kids!!! Maybe there is hope afterall.

I did a search on this but came up with nothing. If it was posted before, I apologize.

1 posted on 02/17/2003 1:31:22 PM PST by Temple Owl
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To: Temple Owl
she warned that a boycott of French goods would ultimately hurt small American businesses that cater to specialties like wine and cheese.

Not even! They can sell good American wine from California, New York, Texas, Oregon, and Washington. If people want imported wine, Australian wines are excellent.

2 posted on 02/17/2003 1:35:49 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: Temple Owl
No matter what happens with Iraq, Smith predicted Americans would not continue to hold a grudge against the French

Wrong, I've held a grudge against France since I was old enough to read the history of WW II.

3 posted on 02/17/2003 1:37:07 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Inspectorette
give WAR a chance!
4 posted on 02/17/2003 1:37:51 PM PST by RolandBurnam
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To: Temple Owl

5 posted on 02/17/2003 1:38:20 PM PST by lormand
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To: Temple Owl
Boycotting wine and cheese may be appropriately symbolic, but frankly, if you want to get the attention of the people that count in France...we need to enforce an embargo against their Airbus industry. We could work a deal so that Britain is not damaged in the blowback. But there is little doubt that their little enterprise would collapse without U.S. airline orders.
6 posted on 02/17/2003 1:38:38 PM PST by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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To: Temple Owl
Gagniarre blamed his embassy for not clearly conveying France's position.

The Frenchies are sounding like Dems: Hearing that their message got rejected, they assume that the message didn't get out in the first place.

Note to Chirac: We got your message. Prepare for ours.

7 posted on 02/17/2003 1:38:40 PM PST by CanisMajor2002 (Annoy a liberal...judge them by the content of their character)
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To: Temple Owl
Glass said she has not heard from any of the chamber's members in the Chicago area, but she warned that a boycott of French goods would ultimately hurt small American businesses that cater to specialties like wine and cheese.

There are always substitutes.

You can get rid of French blue cheese and get English stilton, for example. And our Australian friends make extraordinary wines. I stopped buying French wine a while ago and haven't missed it a bit.

Regards, Ivan

8 posted on 02/17/2003 1:38:45 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: Inspectorette
If people want imported wine, Australian wines are excellent.

Indeed, but French whines are more soulful!

;^)

9 posted on 02/17/2003 1:39:13 PM PST by DrNo
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No matter what happens with Iraq, Smith predicted Americans would not continue to hold a grudge against the French.

Wanna bet? I won't forget the Vichy cheese-eating surender monkeys!

10 posted on 02/17/2003 1:39:48 PM PST by talleyman ("Political Science" - Randy Newman got it right!)
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To: Inspectorette
We have a new directive at my home (made by me!). "French Fries" will no longer be called as such. It is now just simply called "Fries".
11 posted on 02/17/2003 1:40:16 PM PST by lormand
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To: MadIvan
Right you are. Australians make the best merlot.
12 posted on 02/17/2003 1:40:29 PM PST by lavrenti
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To: Temple Owl
"right now I find the reaction pretty violent."

Looks like these Surrender Monkeys define "violent"as a peaceful boycott of the goods of a gutless nation of appeasers.

Hey, Miss Surrender Monkey if a boycott is "violent" to you just wait till you see what the 101st Airborne has in mind.

You gutless French wussy.
13 posted on 02/17/2003 1:40:53 PM PST by UncleSamUSA
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About a half-hour into the protest, anti-war demonstrators from Georgetown Peace Action showed up to begin a counter-protest.

Johnny-on-the-spot, those anti-Americans!

14 posted on 02/17/2003 1:41:45 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: Temple Owl
Anthony A. Smith, president of the French-American Foundation, located in New York City, said relations between the United States and Europe are quite bad at the moment. Smith, however, took issue with Americans who have targeted France. He said Germany has been even more reluctant to support the United States, yet encounters little criticism.

This guy Smith must be practicing to become a Frenchie. He doesn't deny that the French are deserving of criticism. Rather, he argues that the criticism is unfair because the Germans haven't come in for their fair share of abuse.

15 posted on 02/17/2003 1:43:22 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: UncleSamUSA
I learned everything I needed to know about France when I learned they eat slugs.

Let's Roll!
16 posted on 02/17/2003 1:44:26 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Temple Owl
Best quote I heard over the weekend:

"Going to war without the French on your side is like going hunting without an accordian."

17 posted on 02/17/2003 1:44:50 PM PST by PrivateIdaho
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To: Inspectorette
Indeed they are!
18 posted on 02/17/2003 1:45:09 PM PST by Laura Earl
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To: talleyman
I won't forget the Vichy cheese-eating surender monkeys!

Yep......They are forever after this.

19 posted on 02/17/2003 1:45:56 PM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Temple Owl
Don't buy Renaults or Peugeots!
20 posted on 02/17/2003 1:48:47 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Wait, I guess nobody buys them already 'cause they suck.)
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