Well that's that then. The French are obviously crazy.
Regards, Ivan
1 posted on
02/16/2003 4:32:38 PM PST by
MadIvan
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2 posted on
02/16/2003 4:32:52 PM PST by
MadIvan
To: MadIvan
Yup..that's it. If they think that they can treat us that way for 6 more years and we're just suppose to smile they have another thing coming. This isn't going to go away. And they are going to be even more angry when we start moving our military bases!
To: MadIvan
So, the author goes to great lengths to explain the long history and tradition of anti-Americanism in France....and then dumps it all on the current US President? Ivan....it makes me wonder a bit about the Brits too. (And that's coming from one who is only 2nd generation American from that side of the pond.)
To: MadIvan
I don't care why the French "defy" us. They are of no consequence, and if the UN follows their lead, it will be of no consequence, also.
9 posted on
02/16/2003 4:50:08 PM PST by
djpg
To: MadIvan
How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris?
NONE. It's never been tried before.
Funny how the French dare to call the USA "cowards" when if it weren't for us, the stupid ignorant smelly bastards would be eating sauerkrayt & sausage for dinner every night and speaking German!
When we're done with Iraq, I hope we level France and teach the stupid ingrates a lesson....
13 posted on
02/16/2003 4:54:14 PM PST by
usconservative
(IRAQ + FRANCE + GERMANY + RUSSIA: THE AXIS OF EVIL! http://www.ropma.net)
To: MadIvan
La mort au Francais.
To: MadIvan
I'm glad to see the French think they are logical.
15 posted on
02/16/2003 4:55:11 PM PST by
Cicero
To: MadIvan
I think the real crisis in US/France relations is that we have finally had enough of their sh**. They don't seem to understand this yet, and they may think they are soooo sophisticated, but many people I know have had it with them. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
To: MadIvan
Ever since, the French have seen the US as a potential Utopia, he says, and have reacted to its failure to conform with their desires with an exasperation that has often shaded into something like hatred.Think how you would feel if on a couple of occasions, you were about to get beat up by the schoolyard bully, and the quarterback of the football team rescues you. After a couple of times, you may begin to feel quite "impotent"--and may grow to resent your "hero" for rescuing you. You might become like France--an ungrateful, self-loathing, jealous, angry little twerp. That's how I always viewed France as acting like.
21 posted on
02/16/2003 5:02:17 PM PST by
Captainpaintball
(Tweaking the nipples of liberals worldwide...)
To: MadIvan
I just watched 60 Minutes's Andy Rooney tear Fance a new one. Holy Cow!
22 posted on
02/16/2003 5:02:37 PM PST by
StACase
To: MadIvan
The french smell like their cheese and they have spines like their relatives, the jellyfish.
23 posted on
02/16/2003 5:03:32 PM PST by
smith288
(Fromage mangeant des singes d'abdication)
To: MadIvan
"It carries a whiff of fanaticism, dividing the world between those who are good and those who are evil. These are not categories that we feel at ease with." And that is why you are irrelevant...
24 posted on
02/16/2003 5:06:18 PM PST by
Charles H. (The_r0nin)
(How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris? No one knows; it's never been tried...)
To: MadIvan
> "I think, in France, if you're at all smart or sophisticated, you're expected to be slightly anti-American. It's part of being a thoughtful French person.
IOW, hollow pride.
> "The top cliché is that all America's problems stem from its Puritan origins."
And there is the root of their problems. From their miserable excuse of a relativistic Revolution until now, the French have shown not the slightest ability to grasp the solid Biblical foundations we embraced. They remain lost in their empty romantic notions of life, which have made them victims of liberal-think. The fact that Bowling for Columbine was a smash hit is telling, and condemning. And at the root of the whole thing is their hollow pride, their willful living in the national egocentric dreamworld.
26 posted on
02/16/2003 5:07:43 PM PST by
Paul_B
To: MadIvan
I am not anti-french; I just plain hate them.
27 posted on
02/16/2003 5:07:48 PM PST by
Diana Rose
(I hate all things french)
To: MadIvan
"It's true that the French sometimes appear not to have come to terms with the fact that they are no longer a major power - but we are not the pygmies the Americans say we are, either. If I were a pygmy I'd sue for slander. One can respect pygmies.
To: MadIvan
Reports of White House Bible study sessions baffle and alarm a people for whom religion is purely a private matter. "This really doesn't play well, . . ."On the other hand, fellatio in the Oval Office is tres chic, so . . . je ne sais quoi!
To: MadIvan
Reports of White House Bible study sessions baffle and alarm a people for whom religion is purely a private matter. "This really doesn't play well," said Pierre Buhler, the former French cultural counsellor in New York, who is now a visiting professor specialising in transatlantic relations at Sciences Po in Paris. "It carries a whiff of fanaticism, dividing the world between those who are good and those who are evil. These are not categories that we feel at ease with." Well of course. For France, a country that has produced just about every decadent thing that ails society, good and evil are categories that make them feel "ill at ease." The French have no redeeming value. They are a deadweight that America and Great Britian have had to lug around for too long.
I would love to see this country withdraw from any organization (UN/NATO/WTO)that allows France to remain a member. I think we are going to find out that France has been an actual ally of Saddam Hussein. If so, France should be placed on the list of countries that support terrorism. It would not bother me one bit to bomb Paris.
Barbara Walters did a piece on Saddam's son Uday on 20/20 Friday night. Again the links to France from Iraq were very interesting:
A double of Uday who wore the same French suits and aftershave as his boss to fool potential attackers.
In Paris a former French official told 20/20 of an equally bizarre, more recent account allegedly involving Odai and a delegation of French college students in 2000.
Two of the students, a man and a woman, told French authorities that Odai invited them to a party in their honor at a Baghdad hotel. But when they got to Odai's room, they say three of his bodyguards forced them at gunpoint to have sex with each other while being taped on video.
According to Alexis Debat, who was a desk officer at the French Ministry of Defense at the time, the French government concluded there was little they could do about it. "I mean, after all, this is Saddam Hussein's son," said Debat, who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS.
Full story: 20/20 Profile of Uday Hussein
What the heck are the French doing sending exchange students to Iraq?!
And then the NATO decision that I loved today:
NATO broke a monthlong impasse Sunday over preparations in case of war in Iraq, reaffirming alliance solidarity while supporting U.N. efforts for a peaceful solution.
"Alliance solidarity has prevailed," NATO Secretary-General Lord Robertson said. "We have been able collectively to overcome the impasse."
After France was shut out of the room, two other holdouts Germany and Belgium dropped their objections to starting the planning for Turkey's defense immediately, NATO officials said.
link: NATO Breaks Month-Long Impasse on Iraq
Way to go Mr. Robertson! May the rest of the world follow your lead and shut out the French. I feel the time has come to call an enemy an enemy. France is in my opinion an enemy and a backer of world terrorism.
To: MadIvan
Bitchy, petulant children, these sophisticates.
If only we cared.
"There was an incredible outpouring after 9/11, the like of which I have never seen among French people," she says. "But the Bush administration never took advantage of it
I've been struck by their total inability to do anything about anti-Americanism, to the point where I wonder whether they really want to."
Yup, we never took advantage of it. Meanwhile it was not too long after this 'incredible outpouring' the the Frogs made a best seller out of a book where the author claimed the Pentagon was never hit by a plane and the terrorist attacks were carried out by right wingers within our government.
To: MadIvan
Screw the French, this story just showed how arrogant and pigheaded they are. I hope they use the veto so we never have to rely on the SOBs again. They make me sick that the like good Americans like comrade Nader and Moore. The contemptuous little toads; no longer frogs toads because toads aint as cute as frogs; theyre ugly little warty things that piss on you when you try to hold them. I bought too bottles of wine today
both from Sonoma county CA.
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