[hobbes1]

"Declare" not Wage.

[finnman69]

The representatives joining the suit, all Democrats, are John Conyers of Michigan, Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, James McDermott of Washington, Jose Serrano of New York, Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas and Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois.

The Axis of Anti-Americans!

[conservativecorner]

We need to file a suit questioning their sanity!

[mhking]

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[ItsTheMediaStupid]

Thought that the courts rulled many years ago that a law didn't have to be a formal declaration of war for congress to give the president war powers? If so they gave Bush that power in the Anti Terrorism bill.

[Redcloak]

John Conyers of Michigan, Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, James McDermott of Washington, Jose Serrano of New York, Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas and Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois.

If memory serves, all six of these chuckleheads were present the day Congress voted to authorize the use of force against Iraq. Perhaps they should all strive to pay more attention.

[Spruce]

H.J.RES.114 Text, PDF
Sponsor: Rep Hastert, J. Dennis [IL-14] (introduced 10/2/2002)
Related Bills: H.RES.574, H.J.RES.110, S.J.RES.45, S.J.RES.46
Latest Major Action: 10/16/2002 Became Public Law No: 107-243.
Title: To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq.

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All Bill Summary & Status Info

[techdawg2k]

Isn't this the same "Richardson" that appeared on the talk shows with his Marine son that had attended all private schools before joining the military? If so, his enlistment caused his alma mater to form internal councils as to why this should happen... At the time the Dad was saying how proud he was of his son despite the flak he was taking from his rich friends and neighbors. I could have sworn that was the same Richardson that's now questioning our President's authority.

[Carry_Okie]

This is a war specifically against Iraq, not a military action against terrorism in general. I think that distinction points to a legal requirement to declare war. It would be the first time since the founding of the UN, and in that sense would be peculiarly appropriate.

Any Congress unwilling to make that formal declaration deserves what it gets. Besides, it would be a wonderful opportunity to see little tommy squirm and bring out the Hildabeast to show her for what she is. They would also have to publicly drop that filibuster. :-)

[Conspiracy Guy]

Somebody call a Wambulance.

[PISANO]

Where were these clowns during Kosovo? Haiti? Oh...never mind, their MONARCH was in the WH then.

[Chi-townChief]

Quite frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing a declaration of war vote.

[Teacher317]

He doesn't need Congress. Iraq has violated the terms of the 1991 cease-fire, and we are simply resuming that action.

(We promised to stop kicking his butt if he did X, Y, and Z. He didn't do X, Y, and Z. Therefore, we are not bound to stop kicking his butt.)

[RAT Patrol]

"The Founding Fathers did not establish an imperial presidency with war-making power," Conyers said. "The Constitution clearly reserves that for Congress." "The president is not a king," said Charles Richardson

Shame on them for turning this into a political battle. Note the new RAT talking points: "imperial presidency" and "The president is not a king."

Congress should not be a dirty tricks scumbag trial lawyer game either.

[Texas_Jarhead]

too bad the dolts don't actually respect and follow the Constitution in the first place

[Doc_Riley]

That Elvis left the building long ago.

[Dog Gone]

There is nothing magical about a Declaration of War. The Constitution clearly gives Congress the power to decide when to engage our armed forces.

They have done so. They have authorized the President to use force against Iraq if he deems it necessary.

That is all that is constitutionally required, and this suit is without merit.

[Enterprise]

"Suit questions Bush's war powers"

So who filed the suit - Saddam Hussein and Sean Penn?

[Alberta's Child]

A bunch of Republicans filed a similar suit against the Clinton administration over Kosovo back in 1999, and my guess is that the ruling here would be the same.

In that suit, the Federal judge pointed out that Congress had passed such a muddy, lame, half-@ssed declaration "in support of the troops" that he couldn't even figure out whether it was a legitimate declaration of war or not.

[billbears]

"The Founding Fathers did not establish an imperial presidency with war-making power," Conyers said. "The Constitution clearly reserves that for Congress."

Too late for that Conyers. Where were you in '61 when this happened the first time? Get out of the way. We don't need a Constitution anymore. It's not like anyone in Washington knows what it says!!