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Reservists Backpedaling As War Looks More Likely
The Tampa Tribune | Feb 9. 2003 | Marilyn Rauber

Posted on 02/11/2003 2:05:09 PM PST by FloridaGeezer

Panic phone calls coming, lawyers say.

Washington-South Carolina freshman Gov. Mark Sanford-an Air Force reservist-sparked an outcry when he suggested his job would keep him from joining a war against Iraq.

Sanford, a Republican, was commissioned as a first lieutenant in the reserves in January 2002 and was elected governor in November. He said recently that he wouldn't deploy, then changed his course and said he would go if called.

But he's not the only military reservist with doubts about heading for the Persian Gulf.

Lawyers say they're being flooded with pamic calls from reservists who either don't believe the United States should attack Iraq or are worried about their safety, their jobs, their finances, their health or leaving their loved ones. The reservists are afraid to talk on record, their attorneys say.

"We have everybody from doctors to seaman apprentices wanting to get out," said David Sheldon, a former Navy lawyer now in private practice in Washington.

Virginia Beach lawyer Greg McCormack said a lot more reservists are calling him than in 1991 when the United States drove Iraq out of Kuwait,

This time around, with no overt aggression by Iraq, "a lot of people are questioning what are we doing, moms and dads saying, 'Why should my son go?,'" said McCormack, a former Army prosecutor.

No one disputes that most reservists are cooperating with the Pentagon call-up, the largest since the 1991 Persian Gulf War.

"Most people in the military are there to do their job and do it well," said Pentagon Spokesperson Maj. Sandy Troeber.

No Pentagon statistics on AWOLs and deserters were available beyond 2001.

But the G.I. Rights Hotline, which was set up by antiwar activists to help those who have either fled or are thinking about it, say their calls have more than tripled in the past few months.

"Sometimes they say, 'I just got back, I can't go again,' or 'I was just in it for the college money,' or 'I'm willing to defend my country but I'm not willing to invade Iraq,'" said J.E. McNeil, a lawyer for the G.I. Rights Hotline.

Last week, Defense Sectretary Donald Rumsfeld acknowledged some of the nation's reserves have been "jerked around" since the rolling call-ups began after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Reservists have been doing everything from guarding local airports to cleaning up after the war in Afghanistan. Now, they'r heading for the gulf. Rumsfeld is considering easing the future burden on the reserves by delegating more support jobs to permanent troops.

About 95,000 reservists and National Guardsmen are on active duty. More than 260,000 were mobilized during the Persian Gulf War.

Jay Farrar, a military analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said that after Bush declared a long term war on terrorism 16 months ago, many of his reservist friends began resigning or retiring to avoid being called up again and again.

Some of the services, including the Marine Corps, have frozen retirements and are keeping overseas units in place to ensure troops can't retire even if they want to.

But, Farrar predicted, despite a reluctance to go to war, the number of AWOLs will be about as low as during the Persian Gulf War.

Most of the people , while it's painful to go, believe in their commitment and will honor their commitment," Farrar said.

Reservist or full-time servicemen who dodge their orders can receive a dishonorable discharge or even jail time. The military usually waits 30 days before considering them deserters.

The Pentagon says not even governors are exempt from deployment,

Air Force Reserves spokesman Lt. Col. Audrey Bahler said only members of Congress or those holding "key" federal jobs are automatically exempted. Other requests are handled "case by case."

Reserveists sign up for a six year stint and are paid only when they are on duty. They also can get college tuition and other G.I. Bill benefits. While on active duty, they receive the saame benefits as military enlisties, such as health care, They can be activated for as much as 12 months at a time.

They also get added help from Uncle Sam and private industry.

Employers are required to save a reservist's job, and some companies continue to provide benefits and salary supplements to absent workers. A 60-year old federal law also tries to alleviate mortgage and credit card worries by capping the interest rates that banks may charge active-duty reservists.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: deployment; reserved; reservists; warlist
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To: CWOJackson
. . . .

3) Do their time in Leavenworth for disobeying a lawful order.
21 posted on 02/11/2003 2:24:18 PM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: Mrs.Liberty
Oh wait..they won't take him..he is too old at age 41.

Actually, I don't think he is. Although if he's a retiree, they can't join the reserves, at least not without giving up their retired pay. However they can be recalled to active duty. Since he probably hasn't been out more than years or so, that is a distinct possibility. They recalled a few retirees in critical skill areas during Gulf War I, IIRC.

22 posted on 02/11/2003 2:24:46 PM PST by El Gato
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To: FloridaGeezer
Being governor of a state doesn't exempt a guy from being called up for military service? If it doesn't, it should.
23 posted on 02/11/2003 2:25:33 PM PST by MEGoody
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To: ladtx
Can't do that cause:

A: Omar don't surf.

B: Too hard to raise burkas up to flash bead throwers.

C: Baghdad Beer doesn't come in kegs, just goat skin bladders.

D: Darn fools already spilled their 'white powder' in Ft. Lauderdale. Place is crawling with HazMat clad narcs.
24 posted on 02/11/2003 2:26:42 PM PST by anymouse
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To: FloridaGeezer
These are probably the same jerks who will brag about being 'war heroes' in the years to come.
25 posted on 02/11/2003 2:26:49 PM PST by Skwidd (Fire Controlman First Class Extraordinaire)
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To: FloridaGeezer
Im glad to report that my hubby's Guard Unit was gung-ho and ready to do their duty....only had a few not deployed because of legit medical reasons......maybe they need a new 1sgt, like my hubby, to *help them understand what it means to serve their country*.....HOOAH
26 posted on 02/11/2003 2:26:49 PM PST by mystery-ak (Look out Saddam, my hubby's pi$$ed and he's coming to get you!<br>)
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To: FloridaGeezer
No, it's not deja vu all over again. It's lying media whores again.

"But the G.I. Rights Hotline, which was set up by antiwar activists to help those who have either fled or are thinking about it, say their calls have more than tripled in the past few months."

These are the same people who claim that Saddam Hussein has no weapons of mass destruction. They have as much credibility as Clinton does.

27 posted on 02/11/2003 2:27:46 PM PST by dandelion
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To: FloridaGeezer
I have a friend who's a surgeon at the local university hospital. He was regular army, then has been in reserves. Has 19 1/2 years in. Four children (ages 7 - 17), a lovely wife, takes care of his mother-in-law (with alzheimers) who lives with them.

He got called up two weeks ago and had about 5 days notice for reporting. We had a get together to lay hands on him and pray for him. He will miss his oldest daughter's high school graduation.

He was kinda sad, but said he's been very lucky over the years and has not had too many significant deployments. Took it like a man, and is looking forward to witnessing to others in "some sandy place." Pray for him and those like him, who we depend on for their integrity and sense of duty.

The majority are like him, and not those disgraceful cowards described in this article.

29 posted on 02/11/2003 2:31:02 PM PST by Timmy
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To: FloridaGeezer
Doctors not wanting to go???? Must be a mistake.
30 posted on 02/11/2003 2:31:06 PM PST by cynicom
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To: freedomworks
Sanford may have joined the Reserves thinking it was a good political ploy in a military state like South Carolina. Now that he has to make good on the deal, it's not so hot, eh?
31 posted on 02/11/2003 2:33:11 PM PST by laconic
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To: FloridaGeezer
For some reason, an image of hundreds of young G.I.'s dying on Normandy beach come to mind while reading this article. Hitler never did anything to America, yet American sons invaded Europe and gave their life's blood for Freedom. The debt that is owed to these young men cannot be paid in full. And here we have reservists, who willingly signed up, showing just how cowardly they are. Makes me ill.
32 posted on 02/11/2003 2:33:34 PM PST by Luna (Freedom Forever!)
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To: tracer
Richard Crenna had a line in the movie The Sandpebbles, "Any man who thinks this is a job like any other for which he draws a salery is a thief of the food he eats and a tresspasser in his bed".
33 posted on 02/11/2003 2:34:50 PM PST by Hugin
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To: CWOJackson
Every last one of these reprehensible cowards should be given a choice.

1) Do their duty.

2) Pay back every penny they have received in pay, benefits, comphensation and cost of training, then receive a Dishonorable Discharge.

I totally agree...my 23 y/o daughter went to the Army recruiter today to check into enlisting and although I can't say I won't be worried about her safety...you know how mothers are, LOL...I am so proud of her for taking the initiative.

34 posted on 02/11/2003 2:35:36 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: anymouse
There are a few of these people in the reserves at my center and we have had one or two use to the option to get out before all of this. That means they never come back, which is good. Overall, we have had alot of people get called and everybody has gone, ready to kick ass.
35 posted on 02/11/2003 2:36:08 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: FloridaGeezer
Note to Canada:

Get ready for a large influx of chickens.

36 posted on 02/11/2003 2:36:12 PM PST by A2J (What in the hell is Rice-A-Roni?)
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To: Timmy; FloridaGeezer
Oh look, here's the webpage - http://girights.objector.org

Note the use of the word OBJECTOR in the URL. This is a crock of $hit publicity stunt and a probably a lie to boot. I'd like to see the phone logs proving that reservists (and NOT hippies) are actually phoning in for "help".

37 posted on 02/11/2003 2:36:34 PM PST by dandelion
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To: FloridaGeezer
While being state governor should certainly be grounds for a deferral, I have to say it would be so cool if he would step forward, without resigning the governorship, and deploy with the others. It would do a tremendous amount for the morale of, maybe not so much the troops, but for the folks at home, to know that he was willing to do his duty.

He could be home in 60 days, his lieutenant governor could handle it that long. Its a lot to ask, but it would mean a lot if he would do this.
38 posted on 02/11/2003 2:37:40 PM PST by marron
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To: laconic
Sanford may have joined the Reserves thinking it was a good political ploy in a military state like South Carolina. Now that he has to make good on the deal, it's not so hot, eh?

It's not like his political connections will prevent him from securing some cushy desk job well behind the front lines where the real soldiers are.

39 posted on 02/11/2003 2:38:21 PM PST by A2J (What in the hell is Rice-A-Roni?)
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To: Mrs.Liberty
Only if he has his "30" in and has been transferred to the retired list. I got out with 24 but had to wait the 6 years until I was officially transferred to the "Retired List"
40 posted on 02/11/2003 2:39:29 PM PST by DeathfromBelow
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