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American beauty: fat is the new thin
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | February 9, 2003 | Charles Laurence

Posted on 02/08/2003 5:34:33 PM PST by MadIvan

From the age of nine, Jessica Roberts hid inside baggy T-shirts which became her sanctuary. A large girl, for years she went to extraordinary lengths to prevent anyone glimpsing the flesh that she had come to loathe.

Now 21, she smiles ruefully at the terror that the thought of a school swimming gala could once induce: Jessica is no longer ashamed of her size and is one of a growing number of young American women who are proud to flaunt their ample flesh in public.

"I've had a string of boys. I'm happy," says Jessica, who is studying for a degree in anthropology. "I would like to think that I am a nice shape," she adds with a flutter of her eyelashes and a giggle.

Even Manhattan, home to the "social X-rays" as they were described by Tom Wolfe in his best-selling novel Bonfire of the Vanities, has joined the "fat backlash" that is sweeping America.

Last week, Kelly Osbourne, one of the stars of the popular fly-on-the-wall television series The Osbournes, appeared on a catwalk with a host of other full-figured models, including Mia Tyler, the sister of actress Liv, who displayed more than the usual amount of bosom and backside.

In the show for Lane Bryant, the fashion house for what the industry considers "plus-size" women, Roseanne Barr, wearing a black bustier, pedal-pushers and a top hat, summed up the mood as she shouted to the audience: "Any fat people here? I'm the queen of all the fat people."

The changing attitude hit the newstands this month in the February issue of American Vogue, which featured Sophie Dahl, the British model, on its cover. Its younger sister Teen Vogue had the cover headline: "Making It Big: how curvy girls are changing Hollywood's stick-thin standards".

Inside the youth magazine is the story of the actress Marissa Jaret Winokur, who has graduated from a teenage television series to a role in the Broadway hit Hairspray. Under the headline "Well rounded" are photographs of Ms Winokur and other well-padded stars, ranging from Kate Winslet, the British actress, and Jennifer Lopez, the singer, to Miss Osbourne. The magazines were published after a film season in which two unexpected box-office hits and Oscar contenders - Real Women Have Curves and My Big Fat Greek Wedding - became national talking points. Andrea Marks, a specialist in child and adolescent medicine, said: "These are messages that are a backlash to years of other unhealthy messages."

Dr Marks has recently published a self-help book for parents and teenagers called Healthy Teens, Body and Soul which includes chapters on the crisis of puberty, healthy nutrition and, under the heading "Panic at the Mirror", the issue of body image. She said: "We all want to look attractive and there are always social standards for attractiveness. But we are saying don't fight it so much and think about other things than body size. We are seeing a sense of pride emerging among a new generation."

The most striking evidence of a teenage rebellion has emerged in the marketplace. Torrid, a national chain of fashion stores based in suburban shopping malls, has defied economic recession with growth so rapid that it has been featured in Fortune magazine. Torrid sells extreme fashion for teenagers - stomach-baring tops, low-riding trousers, punk styles and daring black vinyl outfits - but all in sizes from a US 14 upwards (UK 16). Last week Jessica, a US size 14, was selecting the latest "flaunt-it" styles before returning to college. "I know now that I've never been overweight and ugly," she said. "I was just judging myself too harshly. If you don't care, it doesn't matter if anyone else does."

The first Torrid was opened in 2001 in California by the boutique entrepreneur Betsy McLaughlin. Last year the chain expanded by 21 branches, with plans for another 25 this year. Miss McLaughlin hit the jackpot by listening to customers of her original teenage boutique, Hot Topic, a version of London's punk boutiques sanitised for the American shopping centre. Teenage girls already up to a plus size, making them too big for her clothes, would buy clothes designed for boys. "The paradigm that the larger girl does not want to show skin does not hold," she said. While there is, as yet, no shop in Manhattan, the outlet across the bay in New Jersey's largest shopping centre, the Garden State Mall, has produced record revenues for the chain since it opened eight months ago.

Its manager, Yolanda Rivera, said: "We listen to our customers. We keep up with the styles they want, but the point is that we sell them in the sizes that the girls are in real life. And nearly all my customers are happy with the way they are."

On a weekday afternoon, Jane Gregorits had driven to the Garden State Mall with her daughter, Kate, 15, who is tall and big-boned like her mother. Kate, who is shy and dressed in jeans and an oversized sweater, spent more than an hour trying on the clothes. "We are a tall, big family and you would not believe how hard it is to find clothes a girl like Kate needs to feel good. There is a huge market for these clothes. We do not want our daughter to change, it is fashion that will change." said Mrs Gregorits.

Fashion watchers say that the phenomenon may be related to America's struggle with obesity, which affects half the population, even the increasing multi-ethnic youth. Black and Hispanic Americans, who have never been influenced by the images of fashion waifs, appreciate the "fuller" female figure such as that of the Latin pop star Jennifer Lopez.

But Atoosa Rubenstein, the editor of Cosmo Girl, says that her readers are simply "less obsessed" with dieting and exercise to attain the model-thin ideal. "My generation was self-hating - we really thought we had to look like supermodels," said the 30-year-old.

Dr Marks agreed, saying that feminism may have been responsible for the growing obsession with the body beautiful. "Eating disorders increased alarmingly at the time of the rise in feminism and sexual liberation," she said. "Feminism increased pressure on women to be perfect and in control."

Now, she says, teenagers, particularly those familiar with computers, realise that the magazine images of their favourite models and movie stars are often lies: they have been air-brushed and digitally modified, such as the February GQ cover of Kate Winslet.

Ruth and Debbie Bronstein, 21 and 19, have grown up in Manhattan's Greenwich Village, but never doubted the allure of their own Rubenesque bodies.

Two years ago Ruth had liposuction treatment on her thighs - "balloons," she calls them - to her family's fury, and now, as they resume their natural shape, she admits that she regrets the operation.

Both young women cheerfully agree that they have always been "boy magnets", and they open their thick winter coats with glee to reveal deep cleavages. "The thing is," explains Debbie, "that our Mom is just like us, and believe me, she has kept Dad hot and devoted for a long long time."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; US: California; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bodyshape; fashion; pieterpaulreubens; style
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Having dated both thin and heavy women, I cannot state I really have a preference from a build standpoint. My preferences run more towards someone who can construct a complete sentence, has self control, showers daily, and understands that Hillary is one step away from being the Anti Christ. (okay, the last bit was somewhat gratuitous..it is still a key point, but gratuitous none the less.)
81 posted on 02/08/2003 8:46:26 PM PST by stylin_geek (Clinton, somewhere between Nero and Caligula with none of the redeeming qualities)
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To: MadIvan
when fashion models are overly plump, and million dollar actresses are overly plump, I will believe this.

High fashion is whatever is rare, and hard to achieve. Being fat is quite easy for almost anyone.

82 posted on 02/08/2003 9:00:00 PM PST by Future Useless Eater
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To: All

These women are NOT fat, yet this article implies that women who look like this are fat and women who look like

Are desireable. You choose.

83 posted on 02/08/2003 9:04:58 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Happygal
Did you dare to think WHY she was overweight? Or the depression that may have induced it? Or if he had a thyroid issue? I doubt you were in love with a glutton?

Perhaps a thyroid issue; quite likely hyperinsulism. Her autopsy revealed that her heart was in decent shape, and she didn't have any hardening of the arteries. I don't know about insulin levels, and by how it's far too late to test anything like that.

84 posted on 02/08/2003 9:07:30 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: eno_
...it clear to me that the public-health dogma is ass-backward.

What's the best way of encouraging a shift in the readily-available foodstuffs? At many restaurants it seems like I have to subject the waiter to the Spanish Inquisition to be sure I'm not getting any added sugars, and then it seems like I end up paying for a lot of food I don't eat (when possible, I ask things like bread, potatoes, etc. be omitted, but I pay for them nonetheless).

I suspect one problem of course is that many carbohydrates are pretty darned cheap. On the other hand, natural fats, fiber, and protein aren't exactly expensive.

85 posted on 02/08/2003 9:12:47 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: Happygal; All
Men with big bone structures will never be Ben Affleck

As someone with fairly big bone structure....good!!! I don't want to look like Affleck(Why are trying to make him an action hero, anyway?). I'd rather look like someone that can last a few rounds in a barfight.

Other that the Affleck part, I agree with you.
It's 40% genetics, 60% in the head. There's no way I'd be an 6'4 250lb NFL linebacker with 7% bodyfat.(damnit!). That's genetics.

However, I can control if I'm in good shape, the gut, the muscles, and the confidence factor of the hard work that comes with it. If I hit the gym, run, and watch how much and what I eat and drink, I won't look like Arnold Schwarzenager, but I can look damn good, and all of that is in my control. I remember the shape I was in at 19. That was due to Self-Discipline and hard work. I can sit on my ass 24/7 and look like Ted Kennedy(Thank God I don't) as well. That would be due to a lack of self-discipline.

BTW - Ironically, my problem was the opposite. I used to be skin and bones until I was 16.

86 posted on 02/08/2003 9:14:02 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Quit Jammin' me!")
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To: supercat
I'm sorry. I didn't want to dig up a hurt of losing someone you obviously loved.

I'm so, so, so, sorry.

YOU seem like an ideal, and loving individual.
87 posted on 02/08/2003 9:14:38 PM PST by Happygal
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To: Dan from Michigan
If you swam like Ted Kennedy every day, you'd probably look good too.
88 posted on 02/08/2003 9:19:59 PM PST by cyborg
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To: FreedomCalls
Clearly why sugar water will always be a great investment.
89 posted on 02/08/2003 9:20:31 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Happygal
I'm sorry. I didn't want to dig up a hurt of losing someone you obviously loved.

Don't worry about it. I still see her charming face in the mirror every morning (literally; a large photograph hangs over my bed, and there's a mirror on the far wall). I've just started Atkins myself (almost two weeks ago) after her uncle strongly recommended it to me at a memorial service for her father. I'm really wishing I knew then what I know now, but it's useless to play 'what if' games in the past.

YOU seem like an ideal, and loving individual.

Thanks. Hopefully I'll find me a suitable someone. Preferably someone who has or wants to take up the Atkins lifestyle, and who can cook decently (or at minimum doesn't mind the questionable results of my cooking). I know from experience that a large woman can give a whole lot of loving; I just wish being large didn't contradict being healthy.

90 posted on 02/08/2003 9:27:29 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: cyborg
I have to perfect the "Bridge Dive" first, and after a fifth of Jameson.
91 posted on 02/08/2003 9:38:20 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Quit Jammin' me!")
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To: Happygal
I never tipped the scales past 100 then had my thyroid removed and in one year tipped them at 200.

That was twenty years ago. I take the second highest thyroid daily dose made and am an active person.

With the thyroid disease I had I am lucky to be alive.

My doctors never tell me to do more dieting or excercise they know it is out of a physical nature.

They do treat my illness and sports injuries.

I stopped wearing the full length dresses and now wear jeans and nice tops that cover the lower stomach. People thinK I have lost allot of weight it is not so. Just dressing differently.

While I am not a pretty picture I fix my hair and use a little make up. Men have confessed that I have a very sensual attraction. Nice I am just an ole' boney girl stuck in a fat suit.

I tried the starvation diets and ended up in the Hospital. Now I eat all the veggies and fruit I want. My big down fall is Coca Cola which I limit two a day.

It is not fun being fat but I relize my alternative would be death if I did not have my thyroid removed all those years ago.

Thanks for bringing up the thyriod aspect. I am sure if I did not excercise and watch what I ate I would be another 100 lbs. heavier.
92 posted on 02/08/2003 10:07:40 PM PST by oceanperch
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To: and the horse you rode in on
I dunno, Marilyn Monroe just never appealed to me.

But I don't like the emaciated look either. Athletic women--and are a turn on with me. If they're fit, size is very secondary, as far as I'm concerned.
93 posted on 02/08/2003 10:10:47 PM PST by kms61
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To: Happygal
Preach it, Sister!
94 posted on 02/08/2003 10:15:57 PM PST by SwinneySwitch (PASS THE BAN!!)
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To: French Whore Surrender Monkey
This was the the only Bong girl for me, and she has enough curves for 3 women.

Oh, did you stare at her while you smoked?

Nothing wrong with Pussy Galore, though I personally liked Honey Ryder (Ursula Andres) and Octopussy (Maude Adams).

96 posted on 02/08/2003 10:23:27 PM PST by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: MadIvan

97 posted on 02/08/2003 10:38:31 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Porterville
Fat is never in, it is inefficient, unhealthy, and gross.

The "heroin chic look", 5'9" and 120 lbs is gross and unhealthy as well.

98 posted on 02/08/2003 10:43:07 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: Mr. Silverback
Kate Winslet was torn to pieces by the media, after Titanic, for being, "fat". She was not fat. She was curvy and classically gorgeous. I'll never understand what some people see in the "starvin' marvin" look. I don't know too many men that like bones sticking them.
99 posted on 02/08/2003 10:47:14 PM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: GOP_Lady
Size 0?!?!?! ok, it's official - I found someone to hate on FR....

(crawling into my corner feeling HUGE in a size 6)
100 posted on 02/08/2003 10:50:15 PM PST by Brytani (What Freepers will go through for a good cause!!!)
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