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Shuttle breakup occurred in mysterious part of atmosphere
SJ Mercury News ^ | 2/7/03 | Matthew Fordahl - AP

Posted on 02/07/2003 5:12:19 PM PST by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:48:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SAN JOSE, Calif.(AP) - The space shuttle Columbia broke up in a mysterious area of the upper atmosphere once so little understood and difficult to study that scientists dubbed it the "ignorosphere."

On Friday, NASA said it has asked outside atmospheric scientists for their opinion on whether some sort of electrical discharge could have occurred as the shuttle screamed toward touchdown at Kennedy Space Center in Florida.


(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: actofgod; atmosphere; bluejets; cosmicrays; elves; exoticlightning; ignorosphere; ionosphere; lightning; noctilucent; shuttle; spark; sprites
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To: Husker24

21 posted on 02/07/2003 5:50:10 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Coincidentally, yes. I remember that a small rainstorm or showers had gone thru the south bay early that morning. I live in North San Jose. About 10 miles north as a crow flies from the Lick Observatory where one of the video was taken. The "strike/encounter" with atmospherically active contact was probably just as shuttle came over the coast and over the land mass.
22 posted on 02/07/2003 5:52:38 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: Eala
The word "Ignoro" translates to "I do not know."

Sounds like it was invented by Algore.
Does it have anything to do with ozone?

23 posted on 02/07/2003 5:52:43 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
"Get the ionosphere the hell off the air."

LOL

"....the games on!"

Kelly's Heroes, great movie.

24 posted on 02/07/2003 5:53:36 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo
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To: Dog Gone
This is the first I've heard of a shooting trumpet, although terrorists may be getting more creative.

A "shooting trumpet", also known as a "strumpet"?

Naw, those terrorists are looking for their 72 virgins, not 72 strumpets.

25 posted on 02/07/2003 5:54:52 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
It sure would change it as it would then of been an act of God that brought the shuttle down....
26 posted on 02/07/2003 5:54:58 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: NormsRevenge
Any old theory will do.
27 posted on 02/07/2003 5:57:45 PM PST by latrans (Live Free or Die)
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To: TLBSHOW
One thing to remember that as reported, the temperature increase was slow but steady over bried period of time.. to me , this implies that a "pinhole" penetration or more could have occurred in the wing structure itself, apparently, near the left wing wheel well . as heat built up, it ate away at the wing until structural failure occurred.. who knows? acts of god are hard reminders of how we are a slave to our environment and nothing in the winds of time.
28 posted on 02/07/2003 6:02:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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bried=brief
29 posted on 02/07/2003 6:05:47 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge; TLBSHOW
From the link in # 20 above:

Cosmic bolt probed in shuttle disaster Scientists poring over 'infrasonic' sound waves Sabin Russell, Chronicle Staff Writer Friday, February 7, 2003

Federal scientists are looking for evidence that a bolt of electricity in the upper atmosphere might have doomed the space shuttle Columbia as it streaked over California, The Chronicle has learned. Investigators are combing records from a network of ultra-sensitive instruments that might have detected a faint thunderclap in the upper atmosphere at the same time a photograph taken by a San Francisco astronomer appears to show a purplish bolt of lightning striking the shuttle.

Thanks for the infoGentlemen. Spites/Jets as a possible cause was raised yesterday at FR.

30 posted on 02/07/2003 6:09:06 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: NormsRevenge
My thoughts as to what happened is this..

looks to me to of started way before Texas. Like it was on fire as it came in.



31 posted on 02/07/2003 6:15:24 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: Finny
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32 posted on 02/07/2003 6:16:02 PM PST by Finny (God Bless G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, good timing, success, and victory.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Thanks. Link from yesterday NASA probing whether upper atmosphere electricity doomed shuttle renamed from "Cosmic bolt probed in shuttle disaster Scientists poring over 'infrasonic' sound waves"
33 posted on 02/07/2003 6:17:55 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
BTTT
34 posted on 02/07/2003 6:18:51 PM PST by TLBSHOW (God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
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To: TLBSHOW
I just saw a better quality shot of the latest released photo. agreed, there is a contrail of dark nature visible. it's not plasma. Damn.<p. the dice are rolled everytime we launch.
35 posted on 02/07/2003 6:23:12 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge; TLBSHOW
See this link for pictures of a lightning strike on an airplane

http://lightning.pwr.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp/lrg/temp/plane.html


36 posted on 02/07/2003 6:23:39 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: deport
It is obviously a ZOT from the Admin Moderator in the sky.
37 posted on 02/07/2003 6:58:17 PM PST by sd-joe
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To: TLBSHOW
Thanks for the pic, but I was referring to the one with the Shuttle.
38 posted on 02/07/2003 10:27:59 PM PST by Husker24
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To: NormsRevenge
Citing internal NASA studies, the 2002 report for the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics said the risk of a shuttle encountering sprites, elves or blue jets when flying over a thunderstorm is 1 in 100 or less.

And there have been, I think, 113 shuttle flights to date?

39 posted on 02/07/2003 10:53:12 PM PST by dark_lord
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To: dark_lord
Yes, 113.

5 different shuttles have flown and we have lost 2 of those. 6 were built, 1 was used as a trainer and never flew.

40 posted on 02/08/2003 8:36:39 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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