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Poll finds voter support for [NJ Gov] McGreevey waning
Newark (red)Star Ledger ^ | 2/4/03 | Jeff Whelan

Posted on 02/04/2003 5:33:49 AM PST by Incorrigible

Poll finds voter support for McGreevey waning

In face of a $5 billion budget gap, electorate disagrees on cutting services or raising taxes

Tuesday, February 04, 2003
BY JEFF WHELAN
Star-Ledger Staff

[Trenton, NJ] -- Gov. James E. McGreevey's popularity has plummeted to an all-time low, with only one-third of New Jersey residents approving of his job performance while 46 percent disapprove, according to a new Star-Ledger/Eagleton-Rutgers poll.

The survey also finds overwhelming support for a tax increase on families earning more than $500,000. But residents are becoming increasingly divided over whether McGreevey should cut state services or raise broad-based taxes to address the state's budget crisis.

McGreevey's goal in his first year was to avoid the mistakes of the last Democratic governor, Jim Florio, who raised taxes by $2.8 billion in the face of an earlier budget crisis and then was booted out of office. The state budget plan McGreevey is scheduled to unveil today is packed with painful spending cuts but free of the increases in the sales and income taxes that were Florio's undoing.

But Cliff Zukin, director of the poll, said that approach has not been enough to insulate the governor from several missteps and the fallout over the budget problems he inherited from the Republicans, who controlled Trenton for eight years until his swearing-in last January.

McGreevey coasted to an easy election victory in 2001, and voters approved of his job performance by a 2-to-1 margin as recently as last June. Zukin called the drop in those numbers "precipitous."

"I think he's in a dangerous situation," he said. "He didn't make the mistakes of Jim Florio. But the question is, is that enough? The budget problem is sufficiently large enough that even without raising taxes, he may lose public support. I think we learned from this poll that there is also a downside to not taking action."

Micah Rasmussen, McGreevey's spokesman, said the governor is paying the price for some tough decisions to close an estimated $5 billion budget gap in the fiscal year that begins July 1. Over the past week, the administration has announced substantial cuts in higher education, senior citizen programs, economic development grants and property tax relief.

"I think it's a reflection of the fact that the governor has some extremely difficult problems on his plate and he is tackling them," Rasmussen said of the poll results. "As the governor demonstrates that he can fill a $5 billion budget hole and curb the state's rampant overdevelopment, I think people will come around on his policies."

The poll results are based on telephone interviews with 401 adults statewide from Jan. 30 and Feb. 2. The margin of error was 5 percentage points.

Harvey Hauptman, a 72-year-old North Brunswick retiree, said yesterday he understands McGreevey faces serious budget problems. But he said the governor lost his support through a series of missteps that include his expensive trade mission to Ireland and his controversial appointment of Joseph Santiago as State Police superintendent.

"I expected a little bit of a stronger start," said Hauptman, a life-long Democrat who says he has never voted for a Republican for governor. "I don't know if he's focused on the really important things."

McGreevey's relentless mantra about the scope of the budget crisis has sunk in, the poll shows. For the first time, a majority (55 percent) say the problem is "very serious," up 14 points since September.

But the state's residents have become more deeply divided over how to address the crisis, with 49 percent supporting service cuts and 34 percent supporting higher taxes. Last March, residents favored service cuts by a nearly 3-to-1 margin. Zukin said McGreevey's recent cuts may be souring the public, making his choices more difficult politically.

"On the one hand, support is building if he wants to raise taxes. On the other hand, he's going to alienate a substantial bloc of people whether he chooses to raise taxes or cut services. It's becoming less of a clear choice," Zukin said.

Charles Bibbins, a 70-year-old retired cosmetic executive from Maplewood, said he would rather see McGreevey raise state taxes.

"There is a limit to how much you can really cut state services because one of the major state services is property tax relief," he said. "Property taxes are the most out-of-line thing in New Jersey, not state taxes."

But Paul Thompson, a 44-year-old plumber from Budd Lake, disagreed. "I don't think raising taxes is the answer. I think we are already paying too many taxes. Giving the politicians more money to spend won't solve a thing." [Nomination for honorary FReeper]

The poll showed broad support for a proposal to raise the state income tax rate on families that earn more than $500,000 annually. Seventy-four percent backed the plan while 23 percent opposed it, with 3 percent undecided.

Assembly Speaker Albio Sires (D-Hudson) has pushed for the tax increase, saying it would provide $600 million that could be used for state aid to municipalities and schools. He said yesterday that support for taxing the wealthy may be building because many people see President Bush's tax cuts as a boon for the rich.

"I still think it's the way to go," Sires said. "And who knows -- this budget is so bad, it may be something we have to consider at the end of the process. There is just no money. This may be the least painful way of dealing with this budget deficit."

But Rasmussen, McGreevey's spokesman, said: "This is a recession-fighting budget and if you start raising sales, income and corporate taxes, that will only cost jobs."

Jeff Whelan covers politics. He can be reached at jwhelan@starledger.com or (609) 989-0379.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: albiosires; approvalrating; jamesemcgreevey; jimflorio; mcgreevey; newjersey; nj; rich; sprint; taxes
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Oye!  This would be funnier if I didn't live here!
1 posted on 02/04/2003 5:33:49 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: William Creel; Alberta's Child; Coleus; ELS
Jersey Bump
2 posted on 02/04/2003 5:34:58 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible; Exit148
Exit 148 ping.

...The poll showed broad support for a proposal to raise the state income tax rate on families that earn more than $500,000 annually. Seventy-four percent backed the plan...

Seems like there's always broad support for looting someone else who's better off.

4 posted on 02/04/2003 5:50:45 AM PST by GunsareOK
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To: Incorrigible
Time for Jim to start thinking about his future...

He has to work on cutting things that can easily afford to be cut (e.g. non-essential programs and positions). The first things politicians willalways do is say "OK, we have to cut school funding, police funding, elder care funding, etc. There are plenty of items that can be cut or simply removed that have nothing to do with essential services, etc.
5 posted on 02/04/2003 5:53:47 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (hillary is a marxist who wants to destroy our constitution.)
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To: Incorrigible
Agreed. Have you heard that the NJSP are missing 20 Dodge Durango's? It seems as though when Santiago was the Commander, he had ordered 20 of them for "special circumstances". Had them all spiffed up with the latest electronics and even gave one to his wife to use with the justification that she could be needed in an emergency. Well - they are gone, all 20 of them, even the one his wife had!! So far they are not holding him accountable because his hiring was payback to Sharpe James. Sharpy wanted Santiago out of Newark so when Sharpy backed Mcgreedy he worked out a deal that the gay one would take Santiago out of Newark and make him State Trooper Commander.As a result,Mcgreedy inherited Santiago's lack of integrity and character. All in a day's work in Jersey politics.
6 posted on 02/04/2003 6:01:01 AM PST by capydick (The triumph of evil is short.)
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To: Incorrigible
He said yesterday that support for taxing the wealthy may be building because many people see President Bush's tax cuts as a boon for the rich.

Even as Bush is maneuvering for tax cuts to all Americans, INCLUDING the rich, Democrat-controlled States like NJ are moving in to slurp it up.

7 posted on 02/04/2003 6:06:30 AM PST by ez ("If this is not evil, then evil has no meaning." - GWB)
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To: GunsareOK
Seems like there's always broad support for looting someone else who's better off.

Yes, democracy, as defined by democrats: two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for dinner. Majority rules.

I have a very liberal acquaintance with whom I get into long email arguments. I wrote, sarcastically, "Bill Gates has about 50 billion dollars. I'm sure he could live comfortably on one billion. Why don't we just take the rest and give it to the poor?" He thought that was an excellent plan.

8 posted on 02/04/2003 6:07:56 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: Incorrigible
One term Jim bump.
9 posted on 02/04/2003 6:37:19 AM PST by MattinNJ
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To: Incorrigible
Having worked for the NJ State government, trust me, there is plenty they can cut. Plenty. I got laid off when they cut the sales tax back by a penny (the true horror of Florio's loss of popularity was that the Democrats also wound up handing veto-proof majorities to the Republicans in both houses of the legislature) and I doubt anyone missed me. There is a lot of dead wood in Trenton.

If you really want to help the state, move the capital to Newark, New Brunswick or, better yet, someplace like Asbury Park so that half the state workers can't take their New Jersey taxpayer-funded salaries over the border into Pennsylvania, where they live.

10 posted on 02/04/2003 7:19:14 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: GunsareOK
What all the people who want to tax people who make more than $500,000 per year need to think about is how much money the state will get from a rich person who leaves the state for another state with more friendly tax policies. Instead of getting more money, you get nothing. What a deal!
11 posted on 02/04/2003 7:21:45 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Incorrigible
And what really annoys me about all this is listening to people on NJ 101.5 complaining about all of the special interests and how badly McGreevey is doing when we could have had a real outsider and reformer as governor but, golly gee, Democrats without a brain just needed to vote for an abortion extremist and gun control advocate instead. Look in the mirror, people of New Jersey who voted for McGreevey and Lautenberg. YOU are the problem.
12 posted on 02/04/2003 7:25:55 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: GunsareOK; Incorrigible; Exit148; **New_Jersey
And sadly to say, it was three REPUBLICANS who introduced the bill.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/825221/posts
13 posted on 02/04/2003 9:30:37 AM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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To: All
The three lawmakers are the first REPUBLICANS to publicly entertain the possibility of an income tax increase to help ease the state's budget crunch. >>>>>>

Is Paul Mulshine Ever so right!!http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/822757/posts And I bet these guys didn't support Schundler either. What's a true, conscientious, voting republican to do in 2003?

Paul Mulshine.
>>>>If you're looking for the reason the Republicans are doing so well nationally and so poorly in New Jersey, look no further. Our Republicans govern exactly like Democrats. So why not vote Democratic?>>>>

Why not?
14 posted on 02/04/2003 9:35:10 AM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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To: Incorrigible
Folks, I've been saying for months now, I personally guarantee Schundler WILL run again in '05, and this time defeat McSkeevy. Count on it.
15 posted on 02/04/2003 10:31:01 AM PST by jmc813 (Do tigers sleep in lily patches? Do rhinos run from thunder?)
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To: jmc813
From what I heard it's going to be a crowded primary.

Go Bret Go

I just hope he runs a better campaign this time around and Keep the RINO's out of his inner circle.

http://www.schundler.org
16 posted on 02/04/2003 6:11:55 PM PST by Coleus (RU 486 Kills Babies)
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To: Constitutional Patriot
He has to work on cutting things that can easily afford to be cut (e.g. non-essential programs and positions).

That would be the smartest thing to do, but much of the non-essential gov't spending are political hobby horses. McGreevy could make some powerful enemenies by cutting boondoggle programs. Me thinks he doesn't have the spine.

17 posted on 02/05/2003 9:57:54 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: Coleus
I read that. Great article. I actually thought about voting Democratic just to spite the leftist GOP in this state. However, it really doesn't matter. The political corruption in this state is legendary and most of the voters are morons.

Think: Ray Lesniak.
18 posted on 02/05/2003 10:04:42 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: GunsareOK
HOW MANY JERSEY RESIDENTS MAKE OVER $500,000 PER YEAR???

HOW MUCH MONEY DO THE DEMOCRAPS REALLY THINK THEY COULD SQUEEZE OUT OF THESE PEOPLE??

Not only are the Democraps Bolsheviks - thay can't even do simple math. They remind me of some character sout of Gulliver Swift's Travels.
19 posted on 02/05/2003 10:09:54 AM PST by ZULU
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To: Incorrigible
"But Cliff Zukin, director of the poll,......"

Any relative of that Bolshevik Eleanor Zukin who appears on a Sunday morning political talk show??
20 posted on 02/05/2003 10:11:22 AM PST by ZULU
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