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French astronaut says Columbia should no longer have been used (Gad!)
SpaceDaily.Com ^ | 1-2-2003 | Agence France-Presse

Posted on 02/01/2003 3:16:20 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2

French astronaut says Columbia should no longer have been used

PARIS (AFP) Feb 01, 2003
A French astronaut who took part in an earlier US shuttle mission and has criticised current space programmes said Saturday the shuttle Columbia which disintegrated should have been out of use long ago. Patrick Baudry said on French television he was "up in arms" over the disaster.

"I think the shuttle should have been taken out of use long ago," Baudry said: "It's a magnificent machine that the Americans developed. But extremely dangerous."

The Frenchman charged that the Columbia was limited in its capacity, and yet had to serve the International Space Station (ISS) "about which nobody knows exactly what it's for and which I personally don't think really serves much purpose."

Baudry, a former fighter pilot, was a cosmonaut with a Soviet team aboard a Soviet spacecraft in the first French venture into space in 1982.

He later undertook a mission aboard the American space shuttle Discovery

There should have a long time ago been "higher-performance spacecraft in operation for more ambitious missions, with a more constructive scientific aim....and above all bearers of human dreams," Baudry suggested.

In a book published in 2001 called "The Incomplete Space Dream," Baudry complained that 40 years after pioneer Russian cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin first ventured into space, no real prospect had yet opened up for the further development of man's programme in space.

Another French astronaut Michel Tognini, veteran of an earlier flight by the Columbia space shuttle which disintegrated Saturday with loss of seven lives, said the latest tragedy was perhaps greater even than that of the Challenger shuttle 17 years ago.

The Challenger disaster occurred on January 28, 1986, 74 seconds after takeoff with six crew and one passenger-observer, all of whom perished.

"It's perhaps an even greater tragedy than Challenger, especially for me, it affects me particularly because three of those aboard were in my training class of 1995," Tognini said on French television.

"And it was Columbia I was aboard for my space flight in 1999," he added.

"Today we can only sympathise, whether we are American, European, Russian, or an international partner, everybody is truly saddened by this accident."

French astronaut Philippe Perrin, who took part in a mission aboard the American shuttle Endeavour last year, paid tribute to what he called "the extraordinary team" that died Saturday.

"I had the great pleasure of meeting them, especially pilot Rick Husband," said Perrin, who works at the French space agency CNES at Toulouse.

"For me it's a personal drama," he said of Saturday's catastrophe: "But for the United States it's a national drama," he said.

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Re: A French astronaut who took part in an earlier US shuttle mission and has criticised current space programmes said Saturday the shuttle Columbia which disintegrated should have been out of use long ago. Patrick Baudry said on French television he was "up in arms" over the disaster.

"I think the shuttle should have been taken out of use long ago," Baudry said: "It's a magnificent machine that the Americans developed. But extremely dangerous."

The Frenchman charged that the Columbia was limited in its capacity, and yet had to serve the International Space Station (ISS) "about which nobody knows exactly what it's for and which I personally don't think really serves much purpose." A French astronaut who took part in an earlier US shuttle mission and has criticised current space programmes said Saturday the shuttle Columbia which disintegrated should have been out of use long ago. Patrick Baudry said on French television he was "up in arms" over the disaster.

"I think the shuttle should have been taken out of use long ago," Baudry said: "It's a magnificent machine that the Americans developed. But extremely dangerous."

The Frenchman charged that the Columbia was limited in its capacity, and yet had to serve the International Space Station (ISS) "about which nobody knows exactly what it's for and which I personally don't think really serves much purpose."

"I think the shuttle should have been taken out of use long ago," Baudry said: "It's a magnificent machine that the Americans developed. But extremely dangerous."

The Frenchman charged that the Columbia was limited in its capacity, and yet had to serve the International Space Station (ISS) "about which nobody knows exactly what it's for and which I personally don't think really serves much purpose."

The French! Sorry, but this just set me off!

1 posted on 02/01/2003 3:16:20 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Thats wierd, the French also same the same thing about deoderant and honor".
2 posted on 02/01/2003 3:18:19 PM PST by DCBryan1
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To: sonofatpatcher2
We have the shuttle. They have the Concorde. Both are pushing their safety envelopes. Today was not the right day to bring it up.
3 posted on 02/01/2003 3:18:52 PM PST by July 4th
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Is there any circumstance these cowards won't opt to surrender under?
4 posted on 02/01/2003 3:19:27 PM PST by DaBroasta (All the good democrats are dead)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
This amount of bad taste is hard fo fathom. Monsieur, you are entitled to your opinion, but really, you should have examined the evidence more carefully, and waited till a more appropriate time, to express it.

Regards, Ivan

5 posted on 02/01/2003 3:21:47 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: sonofatpatcher2
"French astronaut says...."

This here is enough for me to stop reading.

6 posted on 02/01/2003 3:23:31 PM PST by HighWheeler
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To: sonofatpatcher2
The Frenchman charged that the Columbia was limited in its capacity, and yet had to serve the International Space Station (ISS)

Other reports I have seen said Columbia did not, in fact, service the ISS, only the other three shuttles go that high.

7 posted on 02/01/2003 3:24:06 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: sonofatpatcher2
The French! Sorry, but this just set me off!

No reason to get upset.
It's obvious that he's simply an advocate of newer, more sophisticated designs and more exotic missions.

8 posted on 02/01/2003 3:25:55 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
The Frenchman charged that the Columbia was limited in its capacity...

Yes we can use the French Shuttle "Marshall Petain" powered by insipid wine and made of cheese.

Axis of Weasels is appropriate.

9 posted on 02/01/2003 3:25:55 PM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: DCBryan1
They don't need deodorant, they developed powerful perfumes that allows them to cope easily with their hydrophobia.
10 posted on 02/01/2003 3:26:22 PM PST by HighWheeler
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To: sonofatpatcher2
And what exactly is the safety record of the French space shuttle?
11 posted on 02/01/2003 3:28:08 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: DaBroasta
He's not engaging in his national sport of surrendering. He's just expressing the widespread frustration by so many in the space community that no one is pushing hard to get man in space. Even the leader, the US, is still using very old equipment and technology. I suspect that we'll hear many others like him from both the US, from Russia, from Europe and from Asia as this week unfolds.

No matter. If the Chinese succeed with their plans to put people in space and perhaps the moon again, we'll see real quickly a massive reinvestment in space technology by the US. We always need a little competition to get our interest.

12 posted on 02/01/2003 3:28:12 PM PST by LenS
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To: MadIvan
I agree, it´s not the right time to express concerns. This is the time for mourning and sorrow.
13 posted on 02/01/2003 3:30:28 PM PST by Michael81Dus (Proud to be German, but not to be represented by Gerhard Schröder)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
He's right about the uselessness of the International Space Station aka the Glorified Mir.
14 posted on 02/01/2003 3:30:38 PM PST by Guillermo (Sic 'Em)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Sorry, einstein, but when the French Space Program catches up to where we were 30 years ago, you can start giving advice.
Until then, better to be silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt!
15 posted on 02/01/2003 3:31:46 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: sonofatpatcher2
La rétrospection est 20/20, monsieur.
16 posted on 02/01/2003 3:32:10 PM PST by martin_fierro
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To: sonofatpatcher2
France will probably attempt to send this to the International World Court. Not that it would do them any good, but......sigh....
17 posted on 02/01/2003 3:35:55 PM PST by justshe (Eliminate Freepathons! Become a monthly donor. Only YOU can prevent Freepathons!)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
I had not known that Euroweenie astronauts existed. French wimps-- bah!
18 posted on 02/01/2003 3:36:09 PM PST by Clara Lou (The Axis of Weasels will soon begin weaseling again.)
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To: Guillermo
Re: He's right about the uselessness of the International Space Station aka the Glorified Mir.

I am all for space exploration. I say spend 100 Billion a year on it. Get back to the Moon. Get to Mars. The asteriods. Colonize the Moon and Mars, mine the riches of the astroids. And, YES, build more of those Glorified Mirs

19 posted on 02/01/2003 3:39:58 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (God Speed Columbia Seven)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
These cheese eating surrentder monkeys can´t even get an aircraft carrier to float.
20 posted on 02/01/2003 3:42:03 PM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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