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1 posted on 02/01/2003 10:57:22 AM PST by vannrox
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The inmates are running the asylum
2 posted on 02/01/2003 11:00:07 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tag Line Service Center: Get your Tag Lines Here! Wholesale! (Cheaper by the Dozen!) Inquire Within)
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3 posted on 02/01/2003 11:02:59 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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This is why I'm a life member of the NRA and also a member of JPFO.

If ATF comes for my guns, I'll take a few of them out! I was about to say that I don't think it will come to that point in this nation, then I remembered NYC and Shitcago... it already has in some areas.

I guess in England, the jails are overcrouded with decent citizens who have defended themselves. First burglary is free? Sweet; for the criminals! Plus they know the odds of being confronted by an armed citizen is remote; and the cops are far away in many cases....

Could one make a better society for a criminal to live in?

MARK A SITY
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4 posted on 02/01/2003 11:06:28 AM PST by logic101.net
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The chief of police seems perplexed by the public outcry. "We will still," he explained patiently, "take a note of any burglaries reported for statistical purposes." They just won’t investigate them.

Surely I'm not understanding this correctly. This means that police won't pay any attention if you're robbed unless you fight back against the robber? It's open season on British homes and they're forbidden to defend themselves?

5 posted on 02/01/2003 11:06:36 AM PST by xJones
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I am not 100% sure of this, but I believe there's a Congressman who is or was sponsoring a bill just for Tony Martin. It would waive the 'no entry for convicted felons' requirement for immigrating to the US , so he could live out the rest of his life here. I believe he has family (a son and DIL?) somewhere here. But it's been ages and I didn't save the thread, so I may be misremembering.
6 posted on 02/01/2003 11:11:02 AM PST by kaylar
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TITLE:"British Man Denied Parole, Ruled "A Threat to Burglars"


RESPONSE:"There comes a time in the history of every people when they become so pathologically soft and tender that they actually side with those elements of their society which harms them; i.e. criminals." A great historian 1888
7 posted on 02/01/2003 11:12:21 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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Tony Martin website
8 posted on 02/01/2003 11:12:58 AM PST by jodorowsky
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Does this make Tony Martin a political prisoner in the formal sense of that phrase?

Can any UK FReepers shed any light on when the Queen may step in and restore some sanity?

9 posted on 02/01/2003 11:17:15 AM PST by NonValueAdded
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Britain is messed up when it comes to citizens' rights.

In Texas we would have told him "good shootin' Martin".

11 posted on 02/01/2003 11:20:04 AM PST by LibKill (ColdWarrior. I stood the watch.)
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They're right about one thing. First time burglars shouldn't be sent to jail. They should be sent to Tony Martin. He seems to be one of the few Brits who knows how to deal with them.
12 posted on 02/01/2003 11:22:24 AM PST by muir_redwoods
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he poses a "threat to burglars."

I'm speechless.
13 posted on 02/01/2003 11:22:26 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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Birds of a feather flock together. Could it be that the British government is acknowledging that there is no difference in taking another's property by theft and taking another's property by taxation?
15 posted on 02/01/2003 11:27:41 AM PST by monocle
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The ultimate end in socialism is the absence of individual right.
17 posted on 02/01/2003 11:51:47 AM PST by thinktwice
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He should have just made sure the second guy was "otherwise handled" and then put the gun in his hands. Then he could just say he heard the shooting and when he went downstairs there they both were. Oh wait, he's probably the type that tells the truth...
18 posted on 02/01/2003 11:55:47 AM PST by Bernard
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This is from the Onion, right?

A_R

19 posted on 02/01/2003 12:08:39 PM PST by arkady_renko
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This defies the logic of a six year old. Even children know the difference between right and wrong. This guy defended his home. If someone enters the door of my home to rob, rape or kill, they're in for a rude surprise. Danger to burglers indeed. You bet your mo fo ass! You can take that to the bank.
21 posted on 02/01/2003 12:15:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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FYI
23 posted on 02/01/2003 12:19:38 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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It was announced that the Metropolitan police will henceforth be saving their manpower for the three most important offences in the country: Murder, rape and hate crimes.

Not to be picky, but hate crimes is now one of the three most important crimes in Britian??

One, who defines hate crimes? The British people or the EU?

Two, What about little things like armed robbery, assault, kidnapping, bank robbery, treason and terrorist activities?

Oh, I forgot. The police are too busy sniffing the exhaust fumes of autos to see if the owners are guilty of tax evasion by using used cooking oil instead of state approved motor oils.

What a crock. Bring Tony over here, with pleasure. GB no longer deserves him, eccentric or not.

24 posted on 02/01/2003 12:20:44 PM PST by texas booster
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It was announced that the Metropolitan police will henceforth be saving their manpower for the three most important offences in the country: Murder, rape and hate crimes.

How long before even rape is no longer considered worth a police investigation? We are rapidly heading in the direction of South Africa.

Note the extreme importance that the above statement puts on "hate crimes": in other words, thought crimes. The police are in fact, nothing more now than political police, enforcing unpopular laws against a hostile and helpless population, at the behest of distant and unresponsive elites, who care more for illegal immigrants and criminals than they do for their law abiding (but poorer) fellow countrymen.

This "hate crime" lunacy has gotten so bad, that British police actually are now sending undercover cops into restaurants to listen for people making racial remarks and other "hate speech" - by which, of course, they mean white people. Black, asian, or muslim hate speech is just fine and dandy. But if you are white and let slip a racial remark in Britain, it's off to jail for you (or, at any rate, off to court).

People who deny that we are headed towards a police state need to read stuff like this, and wake up and smell the coffee.

26 posted on 02/01/2003 12:30:14 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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British Man Denied Parole, Ruled "A Threat to Burglars"

Hey, burglars gotta eat too ya know!

29 posted on 02/01/2003 12:43:39 PM PST by TightSqueeze (From the Department of Homeland Security, sponsors of Liberty-Lite, Less Freedom! / Red Tape!)
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