SUPER CRUD

NewsMax, Illinois Leader ^ | 1.27.2003 | Kevin McCullough

[KMC1]

KEVIN McCULLOUGH IS HEARD WEEKDAYS ON AM1160 WYLL - CHICAGO - Worldwide at www.wyll.com

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[gridlock]

That's what the remote is for, Kevin.

[newgeezer]

In some late-night editions of the commercial it ends with the two panty-clad mud wrestlers saying to each other, "Let's make out!"

Whoa. I haven't seen that one. I guess they don't show it on TVLand.

[PatriotGames]

While I agree that the networks are pushing the envelope with sexuality I disagree with his comments about the looks of disgust on the faces of the dates in the Miller Lite commercial. I would describe their looks as being absolutely dumbfounded and in total disbelief as to what they are hearing their dates say.

[Poohbah]

Yeah, and that's the greatest part of the commercial :o)

[Physicist]

What does it say to the nearly 5 million girls in America this year that will struggle with their body image to the degree that they will develop an eating disorder. What does it say to the millions of American boys who have been told to respect girls and control their sexual appetite only to have access to any type of imaginable pornography that says anything but "control"?

We wonder how sexual assaults happen. We wonder why we are to the breaking point when we here stories from the headlines almost daily of men and women doing perverse and criminal things to have an addict's high for their next sexual experience.

Codswallop. People aren't puppets. The notion that all human action can be reduced to "monkey see, monkey do" is an authoritarian lie concocted to justify someone's absolute control over what people see and hear. The same hobnailed sanctimony emanates from both right and left.

[freedumb2003]

>>Whoa. I haven't seen that one. <<

Cable only, but yes, they do say that.

[steve-b]

This means people are watching, commercials are selling, and no one is objecting.

Piffle. Raising a ruckus of objections (and attendant free publicity) was no doubt part of their strategery.

[aruanan]

The notion that all human action can be reduced to "monkey see, monkey do" is an authoritarian lie concocted to justify someone's absolute control over what people see and hear. The same hobnailed sanctimony emanates from both right and left.

It's a little too B.F. Skinnerish. We're all just the sum total of environmental pressures, so vote for (Republican, Democrat), and we'll make sure we'll create the right environment that will produce the best possible citizen.

[WriteOn]

hear, hear. 4 of us families got together and wretched over the advertising. it was awful.

[yendu bwam]

I was disgusted that my children had to see two nearly naked women mud-wrestling, and then to consider lesbianism - all in the same superbowl commercial. You can't watch football anymore without putrid filth coming into your living room.

[antaresequity]

Change the station...if there is a market they will make it...quit paying for it...thats all your entitled to do.

[PatriotGames]

I agree. That IS the best part of the commercial. I always wait with great anticipation for that moment. LOL

[HiTech RedNeck]

I preduct the show will be a flub.

[First Amendment]

People aren't puppets. The notion that all human action can be reduced to "monkey see, monkey do" is an authoritarian lie concocted to justify someone's absolute control over what people see and hear.

This is a straw man argument. You libertarians say that the only proper action to the degradation of culture is to turn one's own TV off. I have seen that argument before on feminazi's bumper stickers sneering -"If you are against abortion, don't have one!". The problem is not ME seeing all that crap, the problem is that our civilization is turning into a whorehouse and sodomy parlor. Children's innocence is being destroyed at younger and younger ages, and once it's debased and perverted, it can never be returned to them.

What people see and hear affects their minds and hearts and to pretend otherwise is to deny the obvious. Otherwise neither advertising nor education would have any effect. Sure, people still have free will, but that will is influenced by what is taken in through the senses.

For most of the existence of this country, we had censorship. Time to bring it back, one way or another.

[Askel5]

Madison Avenue and Larry "Free Speech" Flynt love your "monkey see monkey do" argument.

I guess the U.S. Supreme Court has yet to buy it else they not have sanctioned special protections for faked-cyber child porn intended solely for the sexual gratification of the apes punching out credit card numbers on the keyboard.

[Askel5]

I'd rather see the return of Common Sense than see censorship.

I made the mistake of sitting down with my grandfather ... as if the SuperBowl were "family entertainment".

I'll never watch another game again.

[MHGinTN]

Taboos are learned. When children grow up in a society given to splaying flesh over the visual sources in most neighborhoods and nearly all homes via TV, the children grow up with a decidedly different taboo system from their grandparents. What sort of taboo structure we want for our society is well within the purview of legislation, if the PC bilge spittle can be cleansed from our reasoning capacities.

Here's an exercise for your memory. When your were one-on-one with an adult during your childhood, can you recall if you adjusted your behavior (your manners, if you like) so as to increase your odds of pleasing that adult, if you 'looked up' to them? The deepest essence of that exercise in human relating is the key to why we ought to have clearer taboo structures agreed upon for the way we want our children to form their value system.

There is no doubt that I find the two females in the Miller commercial very attractive ... they're gorgeous broads! I wouldn't want my precious granddaughter exposed to that sort of 'condoned visual display' on a regular basis, because it would numb her taboo structures in a way that I would find negative preparation for adolescent and then adult life. Taking a more extreme example, exposing children to obvious sexual activity on a regular basis is likely to generate a too accepting norm in her taboo system for later life.

That's not a very scientific explanation for why I think the ad is in bad taste for general consumption, but perhaps you get the gist. Children learn what is acceptable. By condoning overt display, we imply there is NOTHING wrong with it.

Sex is a wonderful activity that I continue to believe is intended for private enjoyment with a loved partner. Too much exposure to sexualization in our society (in every direction one looks!) shapes a future society that offends my learned taboo structures. Shucks, it's already here! By erasing the parameters of the taboo structures, a society loses its way. Anthropologists have confirmed this with primitive societies studied as they 'adjust' following contact with our 'modern' world.

[LibertarianInExile]

Amen.

[LibertarianInExile]

I agree with what you say about what people read and see affecting their minds. For instance, just about everything else you had to say made me think, "What a pompous nanny-wanna-be! This dimbulb wants a government babysitting commission!"

You live in a fantasy world where there is just nothing but people out to despoil your innocent kids. Only in this century has American society, or for that matter ANY society, coddled kids so much and so long. Only in this century have we had such rampant censorship in the mainstream media. "What about the children?!?!" is the battle cry for self-appointed guardians of morality like you, and I'm tired of your self-righteousness.

If you would prefer children believe in Santa Claus right up to college, raise your own kids that way. Otherwise, you're imposing your kids' standards on MY tv, media, and magazines, and the result will be a populace that thinks like children...hey, sounds like the Democrat Party plan!

And who's going to do the censoring? Tightsphincters like you!? No, I'm sure you'll be 'fair,' our government and the Hays Commission part deux will take care of it, right, and everything will be okay! Good thinking, junior Brownshirt! You get the book-burning merit badge!

Make sure they don't start advertising something you do like, like the Bible, because I might have to complain to the commission and they'll ban it for me. And don't curse at me, because then I'll have to have them lock you up for being a hypocrite.

It's capitalism, and a free market, at work. It's a free society. Love it or leave it, statist.