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LIBERAL LIES AND A WILLING PRESS; A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY
THE LOGICAL VIEW ^ | 1/26/03 | MARK A SITY

Posted on 01/26/2003 12:58:58 PM PST by logic101.net

LIBERAL LIES AND A WILLING PRESS; A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY 1/26/02 MARK A SITY

In today's Milwaukee Urnal/Sentinel, on the front of the editorial section an op/ed appears by a woman named Barbara Minner. It starts out basically comparing the US role in the future Iraq war to Hitler's genocide program. Had the paper any respect for the truth, this posting would have been struck. Instead it was featured in a prominent spot.

Let's look at the facts.

Iraq has practiced genocide; the US has fought those who practice genocide. Iraq has used poison gas against the Kurds, including women and children, and killed thousands of them in a very horrible way. Hitler used gas to kill off Jews. Hitler used gas chambers so that the killing was confined. Iraq just lets a gas bomb go off in a village populated by Kurds to kill them all off at once. Gas attacks are not pretty or pleasant, nor are they good for targeting a specific group of militants. This is why they are listed as "weapons of mass destruction" (WMD) and have been banned from the battle field since the end of WWI.

Hitler wanted to kill off all the Jews. Gee, most of the Muslim nations want to do the same. Iraq is a Muslim nation and has send missiles against Israel during the Gulf War, even though Israel was a non-combatant. He just wanted to kill some Jews; there aren't any left in his country.

Iraq lost the Gulf War and surrendered. One of the terms of surrender, which they agreed to, was the destruction of all WMD. Another was free access of inspectors to ensure that these weapons, and systems to deploy them, were to be destroyed. Iraq never gave this access and continued to harass the inspectors and kicked them out. President Clinton did nothing of substance, allowing Iraq to continue its weapons programs, including a desperate search for nuclear materials. One interesting point here is that Iraq kicked out the inspectors saying they were spies. Well duh! What did they think the inspectors were when they signed the surrender agreement?

Iraq also agreed to 2 "no fly zones" which would be patrolled by US and other aircraft. Implied in the agreement is that they not try to shoot down our planes. They have not done so.

Finally, does any rational person think that we plan to execute all Iraq citizens? Of course not, so how could removal of the current regime be genocide? Never mind, it's a liberal lie, so goes unchallenged in the paper. Our goal in Iraq is to put in a government that is responsible to the people, that answers to the people. A government that the people of Iraq can change if they desire. Things like elections will be held in Iraq after we leave, elections that have competing candidates.

This nit wit goes on with some bullet points:

1) "…not exhausted diplomatic means…." Say what? For 12 years there has been little more than diplomatic measures, they haven't worked. With some people you need to step on their toes until they apologize. This is one of those regimes. Any attempt at diplomacy is seen as a sign of weakness by such people.

2) "Iraq does not pose any immediate danger…." Really? How about their support of terrorists? How about the fact that they could supply terrorists with WMD? How about the fact that it is looking like the anthrax used in mail attacks seem to have come from Iraq labs? How about his frantic search for weapons grade nuclear material? Should we wait until he gets and A bomb?

3) "The Bush administration is overly willing to act unilaterally." Really? What was the UN resolution he sought, scrap paper? If the UN is not willing to enforce its own resolutions, or even to allow us to enforce them, does that not make them irrelevant? The author continues with this, "…without support of…key allies." Excuse me, but of the 19 nations in NATO, 15 support us. The only NATO nations not on board are France, Germany, Luxemburg, and Belgium! This is not really a huge loss; all these nations have depended 95% on the US for their national defense since the end of WWII, how much help would they be?

4) "The war is being used as a test case for … (Bush's) policy of pre-emptive war." Gee, ok, let's just wait for Iraq to get and use a nuke before we worry about them. Let's loose 3 million people in the next attack.

5) "…desire to control oil supplies…" We could have had all the oil in Iraq the last time. We didn't take it. In fact, we required Iraq to limit sales of oil to that needed to support its population, thus driving up prices by limiting supply. Iraq has not only failed to use the money from legitimate sales to feed its people, but has smuggled oil out of the nation against the surrender agreement. Little of this money makes it to the population; most is diverted to WMD programs or to keep the leaders in a lavish lifestyle.

6) "The war will increase the appetite for revenge…" Oh no, we might make Osama mad! Well MS Minner, the extremists ARE mad, in the sense that a rabid dog is mad! These people are lower forms of life (the extremists); they have not developed higher forms of emotion like love and compassion. They respect only power and the ruthless application of power. They know only hate and fear. They need to fear us, for if they don't fear us, they will continue to attack us and kill innocent people all over the world.

7) "…diverts US attention from… countering terrorism…." Taking out the current Iraq regime IS countering terrorism. There is a hanger in Baghdad with a 727 used to train terrorists in the fine art of taking over jet liners. There is strong evidence that those terrorists that attacked us on 9/11 were trained in this hanger.

8) "…the Bush … "go it alone" mentality." See point #3.

9) The cost of the war will "…further undercut the faltering US economy and divert needed dollars from social programs…" The only thing holding back the stock market relating to the war is the wait. Note: this is why I'm holding much of my 401k in bonds; we should have a huge drop once we first go in, followed by a huge rally when we start to kick butt. Plus, one of the reasons our economy is slow is that there is too much money tied up into "social programs" and not in the private sector, which IS the economy. In addition, we were starting to come out of the Clinton Recession just before 9/11, the attack on our nation pushed us back. If we don't take out this evil regime that sponsors terrorism we will be inviting more of the same, by showing weakness.

Ms Minner closes with; "Twenty years from now, wouldn't you like to be able to tell your … grandchildren… I not only opposed the US war with Iraq, I did something about it." Let's finish this line with; "And that is why there are so many areas of this nation that are radioactive waste."

Liberal lies and the main-line press; the terrorists' best friend.

MARK A SITY

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I thought of sending this to the offending paper, but it's way too long for them to publish from someone not on their payroll, and it would probably black list me from ever getting published there again. Isn't it wonderful living in a town that only has one paper?

MARK A SITY

1 posted on 01/26/2003 12:58:58 PM PST by logic101.net
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To: logic101.net
Look up the term, Liberal in the dictionary, and the first definition is, " a liar."
2 posted on 01/26/2003 1:07:01 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: logic101.net
LIBERAL LIES AND A WILLING PRESS; A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY
Journalism is the business of grabbing attention. That is easiest done with lies and half-truth slander of the people and institutions upon whom the public depend. This makes journalism anticonservative in principle.

Political liberalism is simply demagogery and sailing down the propaganda wind from anticonservative journalism. It is more true that liberal politicians are "willing" to "go along and get along" with journalistic anticonservatism than that journalists are "willing" to go along with politicians who in fact are acting as reporters' toadies.


3 posted on 01/26/2003 1:42:36 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: logic101.net
BUMP for post-game read
4 posted on 01/26/2003 2:03:48 PM PST by Gun142
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To: logic101.net

I look at this Reuters photo and shake my head in amazement over the stupidity of some of these people. Let's see....Hitler hated the Jews, so Bush hates the Jews? Or would that perhaps be Saddam who hates Jews.....and wants to eliminate them? And sadly, this man is old enough to know the real history....

5 posted on 01/26/2003 2:14:55 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
That "protestor" needs a dose of reality:

6 posted on 01/26/2003 2:19:32 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is immoral.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
With liberals, it's the blind leading the blind!

No offense to blind people.
7 posted on 01/26/2003 4:31:28 PM PST by SwinneySwitch
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To: logic101.net
These people share in the same defect as Saddam....it is impossible for them to use much less understand logic. It would take a catastrophy larger than 9/11 to make them realize who the real threat is and I pray that day never comes. It's a hell of alot easier to ignore the liberals than it is to watch thousands of Americans die again.
8 posted on 01/26/2003 5:30:37 PM PST by Arpege92
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To: logic101.net
Twenty years from now, wouldn't you like to be able to tell your … grandchildren… I not only opposed the US war with Iraq, left wing libero-communists and islamofascists I did something about it.
9 posted on 01/26/2003 5:49:16 PM PST by johnb838 (deconstruct the left)
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To: Arpege92
Even that might not do it. They have tunnel vision, and in the case of the author of the post that inspired my post; well I think she did way too much acid in the '60's!

Plus, liberals only listen to what they want to hear; anything else is blocked out. It is pretty sad.

MARK A SITY
10 posted on 01/26/2003 7:15:03 PM PST by logic101.net
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To: johnb838
I like the way you think!

MARK A SITY
11 posted on 01/26/2003 7:15:45 PM PST by logic101.net
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To: anniegetyourgun
He should be old enough to know history, but like all liberals, he will only listen to what he wants to hear. Plus those 400 acid trips in the 60's might have had something to do with his world view....

MARK A SITY
12 posted on 01/26/2003 7:17:31 PM PST by logic101.net
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To: logic101.net
It is really frightening to see what is going on......I've not seen anything like it in my lifetime.
The clintoons and their minnions can say anything they want to and get a free pass from the media!
13 posted on 01/26/2003 7:21:13 PM PST by mickie
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
No, I think you are wrong here. The main-line press WORSHIPS liberal politicians. They seek them out because they will get the sound bites and quotes they are looking for to validate thier wierd views. Look at how much press time Dashole gets compared to the MAJORITY Leader.

The press can do nothing without liberals in some area of power, or percieved power. Nor can the press sponsor or pass unconstitutional legislation. They can only support it and praise it.

MARK A SITY
14 posted on 01/26/2003 7:21:34 PM PST by logic101.net
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Nope, just looked it up in Webster's New World, Second edition.

Generious, ample, abundant, not literal or strict, tolerant, etc.

Sorry to burst your bubble. Liar SHOULD be there, but it isn't. Nor are terms like childish, ignorant, or appeaser.

Although you did touch on a subject here. Last night we were watching TR, An American Lion on the History Chanel. Guess who kept popping up? The American Liar; Clinton! It sickened me; but then again he always does. At least his wife wasn't on.

MARK A SITY
15 posted on 01/26/2003 7:28:54 PM PST by logic101.net
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To: logic101.net
The Soviet Union-Tribune in San Diego is another paper with an amazing bias. We can all tell horror stories about out local rags but it's much more rewarding to get my news online and watch the major-media sputtering and wondering why thier readership is falling .
16 posted on 01/26/2003 7:31:27 PM PST by blastdad51
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To: SwinneySwitch
With liberals, it's the blind leading the blind!

Liberalism is also the lame leading the lame. No offense to lame people.

17 posted on 01/26/2003 7:39:02 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: logic101.net
Thanks for countering the lame arguments of Minner, that we've heard 1000 times before. Unfortunately, the Lamestream Press is walking in lock-step with people of her mentality. They will never challenge those ideas the way you have. Keep up the good work!
18 posted on 01/26/2003 7:47:35 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: logic101.net
My own personal take on this whole situation. With the Klintons becoming the unofficial heads of the Dim party and Pelosi becoming a major spokesperson for the Left, a bunch of morons running for the Democratic nomination, the liberals in complete disarray, well it's all good for us!

They almost succeeded but they failed to steal the Presidency in 2000, they went left. They got slammed by the populace in 2002. Their reaction? Pelosi and even more vitriolic, liberal diatribes. This is not something we should moan about -- this is a late Christmas gift and a big one at that!! We should discreetly egg them on as they run into the ditch - I'm loving it.
19 posted on 01/26/2003 8:50:26 PM PST by Chu Gary
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To: blastdad51
News media decay is tragic here in Chicago. The internet is often more credible than what passes for facts in print news these days. Our liberal tabloid Chicago Sun-Times is more conservative than the Chicago Tribune. But that doesn't stop the Trib from wrapping herself in her old past; repeatedly brow beating the reader she’s is a republican paper. Surely Robert McCormick and Joseph Medil do cartwheels in their graves today.
20 posted on 01/26/2003 9:00:44 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Convict pedophile wannabe traitor Ritter thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/829655/posts)
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