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Israel joining the 'War on terror': Staging targeted killings in US, other friendly countries
Jewish World Review ^ | 1-15-03 | Richard Sale

Posted on 01/16/2003 5:13:54 AM PST by SJackson

The Jewish state will shortly begin aggressively using its vast intelligence network in an effort to end "global jihad" and eradicate terror and terrorists from the democratic, Western world. Until now, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has forbidden the practice.

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(UPI) Israel is embarking upon a more aggressive approach to the war on terror that will include staging targeted killings in the United States and other friendly countries, former Israeli intelligence officials told United Press International.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has forbidden the practice until now, these sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Israeli statements were confirmed by more than a half dozen U.S. foreign policy and intelligence officials in interviews with UPI.

With the appointment of Meir Dagan, the new director Israel's Mossad secret intelligence service, Sharon is also preparing "a huge budget" increase for the spy agency as part of "a tougher stance in fighting global jihad (or holy war)," one Israeli official said.

Since Sharon became Israeli prime minister, Tel Aviv has mainly limited its practice of targeted killings to the West Bank and Gaza because "no one wanted such operations on their territory," a former Israeli intelligence official said.

Another former Israeli government official said that under Sharon, "diplomatic constraints have prevented the Mossad from carrying out 'preventive operations' (targeted killings) on the soil of friendly countries until now."

He said Sharon is "reversing that policy, even if it risks complications to Israel's bilateral relations."

A former Israeli military intelligence source agreed: "What Sharon wants is a much more extensive and tough approach to global terrorism, and this includes greater operational maneuverability."

Does this mean assassinations on the soil of allies?

"It does," he said.

"Mossad is definitely being beefed up," a U.S. government official said of the Israeli agency's budget increase. He declined to comment on the Tel Aviv's geographic expansion of targeted killings.

An FBI spokesman also declined to comment, saying: "This is a policy matter. We only enforce federal laws."

A congressional staff member with deep knowledge of intelligence matters said, "I don't know on what basis we would be able to protest Israel's actions." He referred to the recent killing of Qaed Salim Sinan al Harethi, a top al Qaida leader, in Yemen by a remotely controlled CIA drone.

"That was done on the soil of a friendly ally," the staffer said.

Gerald Bull, an Ontario-born U.S. citizen and designer of the Iraqi supergun -- a massive artillery system capable of launching satellites into orbit, and of delivering nuclear chemical or biological payloads from Baghdad to Israel -- was killed in Belgium in March 1990. The killing is still unsolved, but former CIA officials said a Mossad hit team is the most likely suspect.

Bull worked on the supergun design -- codenamed Project Babylon -- for 10 years, and helped the Iraqis develop many smaller artillery systems. He was found with five bullets in his head outside his Brussels apartment.

Israeli hit teams, which consist of units or squadrons of the Kidon, a sub-unit for Mossad's highly secret Metsada department, would stage the operations, former Israeli intelligence sources said. Kidon is a Hebrew word meaning "bayonet," one former Israeli intelligence source said.

This Israeli government source explained that in the past Israel has not staged targeted killings in friendly countries because "no one wanted such operations on their territory."

This has become irrelevant, he said.

Dagan, the new hard-driving director of Mossad, will implement the new changes, former Israeli government officials said.

Dagan, nicknamed "the gun," was Sharon's adviser on counter-terrorism during the government of Netanyahu in 1996, former Israeli government officials say. A former military man, Dagan has also undertaken extremely sensitive diplomatic missions for several of Israel's prime ministers, former Israeli government sources said.

Former Israel Defense Forces Lt. Col. Gal Luft, who served under Dagan, described him as an "extremely creative individual -- creative to the point of recklessness."

A former CIA official who knows Dagan said the new Mossad director knows "his foreign affairs inside and out," and has a "real killer instinct."

Dagan is also "an intelligence natural" who has "a superb analyst not afraid to act on gut instinct," the former CIA official said.

Dagan has already removed Mossad officials whom he regards as "being too conservative or too cautious" and is building up "a constituency of senior people of the same mentality," one former long-time Israeli operative said.

Dagan is also urging that Mossad operatives rely less on secret sources and rely more on open information that is so plentifully provided on the Internet and newspapers.

"It's a cultural thing," one former Israeli intelligence operative explained. "Mossad in the past has put its emphasis on Humint (human intelligence) and secret operations and has neglected the whole field of open media, which has become extremely important."

Regarding Mossad's new policy and budget increase, Kim Farber an Israeli Embassy official said, "There is so little information available on this, there is nothing I can add."


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To: American in Israel
HEY!! I think this is a great idea....wish I wasn't such an old lady...I'd help!! Think I could make the Mossad some cookies?

I support Israel all the way!!

Do have the information about how to send Pizzas, ice cream, sodas and burgers to an IDF squad...I did that in the Fall. it felt good to be able to do SOMETHING for the guys.

21 posted on 01/16/2003 10:00:51 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: usurper
I also will not allow our own government to use foreign government agents as a proxy to violate constitution safe guards within the US.

Personally I don't think what you will "allow" makes a whole lot of difference. Of course if they do this it must be absolutely secret and with no mistakes. If they get caught, they will be subject to prosecution.

I also think (hope) we will do the same kind of black ops. The next time a shipload of missiles leaves North Korea we should slip a sub next to it in the middle of the night and put SEALs onboard, disable their communications, and sink it. Funny how that ship just disappeared. Just like that ship full of uranium in the 60s that left France for an Arab country and vanished. It's widely believed in intelligence circles that the Mossad hijacked it and the uranium was used to build Israel's nuclear arsenal.

22 posted on 01/16/2003 10:04:33 AM PST by Hugin
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To: usurper
Imagine Clinton with power like that.

Clinton did and does have power like that, it's called "Arkancide". And that's just what Mossad should use in their efforts on U.S. soil.

Who is to say that an islamofascist found with five bullets in his head didn't commit suicide? The lamestream press would report such incidents as evidence some radical muslims are finally developing a conscience, and can no longer implement their unauthorized perversion of the religion of peace.

The Clintoons expected us to believe such suicides were common to many others who just happened to have some dirt on the Slickmeister.

23 posted on 01/16/2003 10:05:22 AM PST by Auntie Dem (Yes officer, it's clear he shot himself 5 times in the back of his head with a derringer.)
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To: Coop
...The fact that our government was willing to publicize the CIA Predator hit leads me to believe we probably are involved in activities similar to these hit squads.

some mumbling last year on this site 'bout the FBI runnin 'black ops' squads-they're not publicizin it....and i'll make no further elaboration, as at the time on this site i said: "we shouldn't be discussin it".

24 posted on 01/16/2003 10:25:38 AM PST by 1234
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To: SJackson
(Pssst... Sarandon, Robbins ...'nuff said)
25 posted on 01/16/2003 10:28:31 AM PST by Stultis
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To: SJackson; American in Israel; Yehuda; dennisw
The winners of the holy lands in the eyes of G_d will be those who will fear G_d and not men. Israel is set to win that prize on this one article. But that means the rest will turn against it, if that is true. One shall not know whether to forgive, for Jews are not psychics, but that is a matter of interesting Biblical quetion. The antithesis is the start of thought. There are of course some idolatrous iconoclasms, since real icons are those of fear, are those icons we cannot destroy in our minds and hearts, the very icon Jews failed to destroy in and about 70AD, but instead failed to prevent the tragic crucifiction of a man. That said, when Jews as a nation of men are pitted against other nations of men, it comes to a no contest nowadays, that Jews will resist more effectively, if not ultimately, miraculously, despite being confusing the conversion through strength with the one through fear.

Only nations of spirit could better them, but where is the nation of spirits and hearts nowadays?

Also the competition between the icon of fear and the icon of a man is no contest... or could it be? After all, spiritual resistance against a fearing people is not much of an accomplishment than spiritual resistance against the Romans themselves, the real threat and icon of fear. Of course, resistance comes on a first come first "served" basis, and not necessarily on a most fearsome first "served" basis, still, the weight is there.

Is it though a time for settlement of accounts, when the true fear of terrorism is known and widespreadly effective ever since the non-collapse of the Soviets and Chinese? Of course not...

Yes, there is no substitute to thinking but thinking, however, there is to be one tenet to make the thinking rational in basis: fear must be erased, this carpe diem fear, this narcissistic fear. Preparing for the future is what is needed, the ground of fearlessness for future generations. Israel has had not choice in the end, the final solution scripting things so clearly about the inevitability of crippling highly risky regimes of fear.

A lull will sound, a silence, for the souls to chose, to have a chance at ridding of fear. Art of course is a way to cope, the sort of irrationality, expressed, the sort of harlotry, the last hint of a soul not resisting fear but rising to its occasion. The psychics, the superstitious, the anticipatory superstitious wishful thinking social engineers, the communists, psychologists, the islamists and all these thrive so deeply when the regime of fear wins, when the regime of fear rules.

It is not the psychology, it is not the hopes, it is the psychologists and the false prophets!!!

All have to go back to kinder garten thinking methods, because all have lost thinking abilities because of fear, because of that primitive feeling that started in school and that kept living in them forever, always neurotic ... of course, a few have been blessed with a unique opportunity to observe and conclude thus.

Beat up, a man becomes a cripple on a wheel chair no better at running than a new born. Beat up by fear, the most intelligent being on Earth is incoherent, stupid, vain, irrational, more so than a newborn who cries against an abusive parent no matter what. Yes, newborns are better than us, they do not shut up, we do, when faced with fear. On this point Jesus had a point of course, that God's spirit would be known to them better than to us.

So we have to go back to basics in the arguments against thugs who fear life and against superstitious fear mongering and mongered liberals who hope appeasement and peace will bring peace. We have to go back: "shhh, now, honey, thesis, antithesis, thesis, antithesis. You hurt, you cry. You're hit, you hit back. You're told to believe someone, you must doubt that person."

Then next to fear and depression management: "shhhh! yes, fighting back, killing people, is a hard choice. Fear not the present, but fear the future, fear G_d. Fear is indeed the little death, it specualtes about life after death. Woe if you do the same and forget science and thinking for sake of speculation. The lusts, the temptations, the social engineering, the fears, let us go back to basics and learn how to erase those superstitious anticipations."

The process, we must not be afraid of the process, we must not try to anticipate, after all, the enemy makes it so clear that it is all doomed with it. Our promises of course we cannot even keep to our most loved ones who are about to turn against us in the blink of an eye when all falls appart.

What fear? We must fear the statute violations, we must fear G_d, we must fear the loss of status of man, and the gain as a cowardly "all too human" "being". Animals, all are, and maybe even worse, for our projecting brains and intelligence is a double edged sword. The more we know, the more unbearable it is, the more stupid we are.

What fear? What gift of fear? Is this a tool we now embody? The abused now abusing it?

The important is that the hearts will be proselytised ultimately, asking for forgiveness to indulge in children, using them for the hopes of the future, instead of protecting them from fear, ushering them into it. The icons won't even matter then, not even the icons of fear, for the important will be to see the fear right into our enemy's heart and believe and understand how always close we were to defeating it. Yes, the fear users fear most, because that is only that they know.

People rise up, say no and fight back, look at the bravery of your children, and try at least to be half as that brave, and maybe, maybe, but the process must go through, and we cannot anticipate results, we are not psychics, we cannot fear and cope with it, we can only have faith, not the faith of personal belief of how it will happen, but faith that we have to go through the process, that we must at least be there to see our enemy fear, even if we are to lose, we must make sure of this.
26 posted on 01/16/2003 10:31:17 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: SauronOfMordor
Sauron,

Reality is, hit teams exist, assassinations happen, always have always will. You are completely naive if you think this doesn't happen.

If it takes a hit team to take out some guy like UBL, because he is being protected by say Russia, and is a direct threat to the US, you better believe he's as good as dead, no matter what Russia may think or say. Just as if some major threat to russia may be hiding out here in the US, you don't think the same thing would happen? You bet your behind it would.

Its part of the way the world works, whether we like it or not. We are not talking about indiscriminant killings of political pests, at best. Rush nor Jim Rob, as much as we may find what they do inspiring, rate to a level of assassination, and if our government wanted them dead, they could do it without needing any foreign power involved. You don't need plausible deniability for your own assassins, if they do it, there won't be enough evidence to tie them to the scene anyway. Look at how hard our law enforcement had with an angry wacko and a kid!

Certainly it is legitimate to be concerned, but it is completely naive to think that this doesn't happen, or that even the US, herself does not or has not done such things. We live in a land with such freedom, because just such things do happen. Saddam never got his big bertha gun because the Massad assassinated the idiot scientist who was going to build it for him (thank goodness), and they gave him every oportunity to not go forward with his plans before killing him... IRAQ doesn't have a nuclear reactor because Isreal bombed it to rubble, thank God! Sure these are actions that are considered acts of war, but was the world safer because they happened? You bet it was!

If anything the west has been far too restrained in eliminating world wide threats, IMHO. Israel, as much as anyone has shown restraint far beyond ANY other nation on the planet when dealing with its own terrorism problems. I have no issue with them officially putting terrorists on alert, you plot against us, we will kill you, no matter where you are. Just as I think this is exactly the stand the US should have on the matter.


27 posted on 01/16/2003 11:04:21 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
US does it as well I am certain... you don't train assassins to just sit and wait for war... there isn't a government yet who doesn't or wouldn't do it. You are being naive.

I have no problem with the US using assassins, they simply can't do it here. If you think that our government can be entrusted to "preemptively" kill people on American soil then I think you have a unhealthy perception of the competence of government employees.

28 posted on 01/16/2003 12:58:23 PM PST by usurper
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To: Hugin
Of course if they do this it must be absolutely secret and with no mistakes. If they get caught, they will be subject to prosecution.

That's the point, they always get caught, their incompetent and can't be trusted. That's just one reason why we limit their power. In a country where the President can't get a hummer in the White House without the whole world knowing about it and high ranking FBI and CIA employees on the KGB parole, just how long would this secret last.

Again I see no legal problems with doing it overseas.

29 posted on 01/16/2003 1:09:43 PM PST by usurper
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To: Stultis
heh heh...give every new Israeli-looking guy you see at the office detailed directions to Berkeley, Ithaca, Seattle, Madison, etc...
30 posted on 01/16/2003 3:21:12 PM PST by jiggyboy
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To: usurper
That's the point, they always get caught, their incompetent and can't be trusted.

The Israelis have never been caught, although they did screw up and kill the wrong guy once. After the operation was cancelled it did get leaked though. But they did manage to hunt down and kill every PLO terrorist responsible for the Munich massacre.

BTW, it's "they're" not "their".

31 posted on 01/16/2003 4:53:57 PM PST by Hugin
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To: SJackson
What a paradox. A death squad in US soil, with most Americans cheering it on. I'm tempted to cheer it on, myself. But there is danger in this. I'll oppose this, but I think I'll wait a year or two. FReegards....
33 posted on 01/17/2003 2:50:00 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: usurper
"I have no problem with the US using assassins, they simply can't do it here."

I agree. GW should put Hans Blix in charge of investigating the matter and ferretting out these anti-alqaeda assassins. Then, in a couple of years, or maybe three, Condi Rice tells Hans Blix we aren't interested in his next report... "Don't bother." Then Hans Blix puts on his Superman suit, with an S&M collar around his neck, and captures them. The President upholds his sworn duty to uphold the Constitution. He simply makes a bad decision regarding who investigates. If Lincoln could get away with having McClellan as his general for so many years without being impeached, I suppose Bush could make this 'mistake'.
34 posted on 01/17/2003 2:58:03 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I'd agree it's a lousy idea too.

Personally I doubt it's happening. I wouldn't be surprised if targeting is picking up in the third world, both Israeli and the US, but I'd bet UPI got the story wrong.

35 posted on 01/17/2003 5:39:09 AM PST by SJackson
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To: usurper
Who is talking about our government assassinating people in america? This discussion is about Israel sending their assassins into other countries to kill terrorist.
36 posted on 01/17/2003 7:53:30 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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