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White House promises 'smoking gun intelligence'
The Daily Telegraph ^ | January 16, 2003 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 01/15/2003 6:10:18 PM PST by MadIvan

White House officials have reassured Republicans by signalling that America and Britain are prepared to release powerful intelligence evidence to cement the case for war against Iraq.

Andy Card, the White House chief of staff, and Karl Rove, President George W Bush's chief political strategist, have each indicated privately that the administration has proof that Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction.

Mr Card received blunt warnings from conservative Republican senators last week that Mr Bush had to produce a much more concrete case for war if he hoped to keep public support.

Senator Kit Bond of Missouri said more information should be released and asked: "What is the connection between Iraq and al-Qa'eda?" According to sources at the private meeting, Mr Card is understood to have urged him: "Don't worry."

Mr Rove is believed to have used similar language during private briefings to politicians in Washington.

He strongly suggested that the Bush administration already possesses a piece of intelligence from the CIA or MI6 that would amount to the "smoking gun" critics are calling for.


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To: Samurai_Jack
Yep, thats right... Mr Bush needs to pull an Adelai Stevenson move here with Mr Negroponte.

Yes, Bush has both patience and good timing.
141 posted on 01/15/2003 9:32:55 PM PST by unspun (DO NOT REMOVE THIS LINE -- UNDER PENALTY of LAW)
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To: piasa
Gotcha. Here's all the dead Russian micro-biologists:

Who’s Killing the World’s Microbiologists?.

A string of microbiologists appears to have died under strange circumstances since the anthrax scare surfaced last fall. From Nov. 12 through Feb. 11, seven world-class microbiologists in different parts of the world were re ported to have died of “unnatural” causes, .

142 posted on 01/15/2003 9:34:07 PM PST by txhurl
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To: MadIvan
Hey cousin! How come the most pertinent press these days comes from the UK? On second thought, you don't have to answer. Cheers.
143 posted on 01/15/2003 9:42:43 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: MadIvan
There can't be a smoking gun, Scott Ritter said Iraq has no weapons of mass destruction & Islam is a religion of peace. sarcasm off/
144 posted on 01/15/2003 9:46:52 PM PST by rolling_stone
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To: Sabertooth; MadIvan; Alamo-Girl; onyx; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; Fred Mertz; ...
White House promises 'smoking gun intelligence'



Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.

145 posted on 01/15/2003 9:54:33 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Just for grins: http://muffin.eggheads.org/images/funny/dogsmile.jpg)
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To: txflake
"A string of microbiologists appears to have died under strange circumstances since the anthrax scare surfaced last fall."

Are they killing all the people who can pin down the source of a bio weapons attack, or all the people who can produce an antidote to a new strain?

146 posted on 01/15/2003 10:00:59 PM PST by ABrit
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To: Miss Marple
That would just be toooo perfect. YeSSSSSSSSS
147 posted on 01/15/2003 10:04:02 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Samurai_Jack
Forget the poll ratings, the economy needs to peak right at September 2004.

And the Assault Weapons ban needs to sunset or there will be hell for the Republican Party come November.

148 posted on 01/15/2003 10:06:33 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Darth Crackerhead)
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To: Howlin
Just for fun....

MARCH 2002 : (VENEZUELAN BERNAL IS CAUGHT SMUGGLING ARMS INTO SAUDI ARABIA FROM IRAQ) An MRV politician and close President Hugo Chavez aide closely tied to the Circulos Bolivarianos, Freddy Bernal, was in Iraq (in) March. He got caught trying to move arms into Saudi Arabia by U.N. peacekeeping forces policing the border- "Terror Threat from Venezuela: Al Queda Involved," by| Martin Arostegui, Militares Democraticos, December 27, 2002

MARCH 8, 2002 9:29 PM: (VENEZUELA, FATTAH, HANJOUR, 911 HIJACKERS) At 9:29 p.m. on March 8, 2002, Hakim Mamad Ali Diab Fattah landed at Venezuela's Simón Bolívar International Airport on board Delta Flight 397. The Venezuelan-born Arab had been the subject of international surveillance because he had taken lessons at two New Jersey flight schools attended by Hani Hanjour, who crashed American Airlines Flight 77 into the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001. The FBI had arrested Fattah in the US after discovering that he also had talked about blowing up an airliner and had used forged identity documents. Information about him was requested from Venezuela's internal security service, Direccion de Inteligencia Seguridad y Prevencion (DISIP). But little was forthcoming other than psychiatric records showing that he was a diagnosed schizophrenic who had failed to attend therapy for more than a year. Top-level members of Venezuela's security services now are shedding some light on the mystery. General Marcos Ferreira, who recently resigned as director of the Venezuelan national guard's border control, Departamento de Extranjeria (DIEX), says that DISIP picked up Fattah directly from the plane and escorted him into a waiting car parked on the runway. - "Terror Threat from Venezuela: Al Queda Involved," by| Martin Arostegui, Militares Democraticos, December 27, 2002 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/813031/posts?page=21

MAY 8, 2002 : (JOSE PADILLA) Arrest of American citizen Jose Padilla AKA Abdulla al Mujahair (sp?) with a US passport coming into Chicago O'Hare from Pakistan. They are quiet about it and it doesn't make the news immediately. Target may have been Washington DC. It was determined to consider him an enemy combatant.

MAY 2002 : (IRAN, DRONE CRASHES) Iranian television aired pictures purporting to show a pilot-less US spy plane crash-landing in Iran's western Kurdestan province. Spies in Iranian skies: America does its own thing - again

JUNE 2002 (mid-month) : (IRAN, SECOND DRONE CRASHES) More unconfirmed reports in Tehran of the discovery of wreckage from another US drone. Speaking in Doha this week, Pentagon boss Donald Rumsfeld said he had information that Iran was "sheltering al-Qaida fighters who fled Afghanistan". Spies in Iranian skies: America does its own thing - again http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/699785/posts

JUNE 6, 2002 (CLINTON, IRA, SEIN FEIN) A BIZARRE veil of secrecy and iron-clad security last night shrouded an "achievement summit" in Dublin attended by former US president Bill Clinton and Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams. Scores of gardai, backed up by a Secret Service-type personnel equipped with earpieces, sleeve microphones and polite smiles, ringed the Four Seasons Hotel in Ballsbridge, where the summit was being held. The event, organised by the US-backed Academy of Achievement, was hosted by Taoiseach Bertie Ahern and attended by "200 of the world's most outstanding graduate students".

JUNE 18, 2002 : (SYRIA, MOHAMMED HAYDAR ZAMMAR) The Washington Post reports that according to Arab intelligence sources, the Syrian debriefing of German citizen Mohammed Haydar Zammar, 41, is providing the United States with critical information on the genesis of the plot to attack New York and Washington as well al Qaeda's structure and possible plans. It is unclear if U.S. officials have direct access to Zammar or whether the Syrians put questions from the United States to the prisoner and then report back. But an Arab source said Zammar has become another check on information the United States gleans from the interrogation of al Qaeda prisoners worldwide, including the captured senior bin Laden Lieutenant Abu Zubaida. German intelligence sources said today that they were only informed by U.S. officials Thursday of Zammar's imprisonment in Syria after an article in The Washington Post raised questions about his whereabouts. Zammar is being held by the Syrian authorities on long-standing charges that he was involved in a bombing plot in the country, Arab officials said. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/701938/posts http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3955-2002Jun18.html

JUNE 22, 2002 : (IRANIANS, UN, CAMERAS, BROOKLYN BRIDGE, TUNNELS, STATUE OF LIBERTY) Middle Easterners spotted videotaping the Brooklyn Bridge, entrance tunnels, and the Statue of Liberty. they were stopped and questioned but not arrested because they were employees of the Iranian mission to the UN and had diplomatic immunity. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/707456/posts?page=1

JUNE 27, 2002 : (IRANIANS, UN, CAMERAS, BROOKLYN BRIDGE, TUNNELS, STATUE OF LIBERTY) Two men who work in NY for Iran's mission to the UN are being expelled from the US, ABCNEWS has learned. Sources told ABCNEWS that the two Iranians were seen five days ago videotaping the Brooklyn Bridge, the entrance to the tunnels into Manhattan and the Statue of Liberty. The men, who have been in the US only four months and are described as security workers for the mission, were stopped and questioned by NY police, sources said, but were not arrested because of their diplomatic immunity. U.S. officials plan to expel the men for suspicious activities, some of which are related to irregularities in their identification documents, sources said. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/707456/posts?page=1

JUNE 29, 2002 : (NORTH & SOUTH KOREA SEA BATTLE) One South Korean vessel was sunk in the exchange in the Yellow Sea, off the west coast of the divided peninsula http://asia.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/east/06/29/korea.navy.timeline.reut/

JULY 2002 : (mid-month) (BUSH STATEMENT TO IRANIAN PEOPLE) IN A STATEMENT BROADCAST into Iran in mid-July, Bush promised unspecified U.S. “support” to “Iran’s people” as they “move toward a future defined by greater freedom.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/731188/posts?page=1

JULY 31, 2002 : (WASHINGTON POST REPORTS CIA FOUND IRAQI BIOWEAPONS LAB) The Washington Post runs a detailed report (“Reality is uncertainty,” by Joby Warrick, Washington Post, 31 July 2002) suggesting that the CIA has found a laboratory called Tahhaddy, or “Challenge”, on the west bank of the Tigris river, employing a team of 85 scientists working on a viral strain code-named Blue Nile. - Iraq - Scotsman says Saddam has weapons to wipe out world's population, nuclear bomb within 3 years "The Scotsman dossier - SPECIAL REPORT ON IRAQ" by Fraser Nelson, Westminster Editor

AUGUST 2002 : (US SATELLITES DETECT ACTIVITY AT IRAQI BIOWEAPONS FACILITY) US satellites detect a convoy of 60 trucks at a one of main suspected biological weapons factories, called the Taji Cell Protection Plant.- Iraq - Scotsman says Saddam has weapons to wipe out world's population, nuclear bomb within 3 years "The Scotsman dossier - SPECIAL REPORT ON IRAQ" by Fraser Nelson, Westminster Editor

SEPTEMBER 2002 : (IRAN & AL QAEDA) Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Thursday confirmed that the White House believes Iran has strong links with al-Qaida. “There are al-Qaida in Iran. There are a lot of al-Qaida in Iran," Rumsfeld said. "They are providing haven.... They don’t like it when we say that, but they are.” - "Suspected al-Qaida camp seen in Iran." Sources: U.S. images show site near Afghan border By Jim Miklaszewski and Robert Windrem , NBC NEWS, Sept. 26, 2002

SEPTEMBER 26, 2002 Thursday : (IRAQ, AL-QAEDA) WASHINGTON, (Reuters) - Senior al Qaeda leaders have been in Baghdad "in recent periods," U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said on Thursday, as the Bush administration pushed its case for possible military action against Iraq. Rumsfeld was not more specific about the timing, but his comments at a Pentagon briefing appeared designed to allay doubts among opposition Democrats and foreign allies that Iraq was a legitimate target in the U.S. war on terrorism. However, none of the evidence has been made public. "We certainly have evidence of senior al Qaeda who have been in Baghdad in recent periods. Whether they're currently there or not one never knows, because they're moving targets," he said, of the movement blamed by Washington for the Sept. 11 attacks on America that killed around 3,000 people. "If you're asking if it (intelligence) is current -- in the last period of days or weeks -- the answer is yes," the secretary said. ((Charles Aldinger, Washington newsroom, charles.aldinger@reuters.com)

(I'd love to be fly on this interrogation room wall:)

SEPTEMBER-OCTOBER 2002 : (SALEM, IRAQ, WEST BANK) Saddam Hussein's pro-Iraqi "terror banker" on the West Bank, Rakad Salem, 58 - who personally met with Saddam in Baghdad - is captured along with incriminating documents in a raid on his office in Ramallah. - "TERROR BANKER" by URI DAN, New York Post , October 9, 2002

OCTOBER 2002 : (IRAQ) Iraqi scientists know how to make chemical weapons that can penetrate military protective clothing, and Iraq imported up to 25 metric tons this month of a powder that is a crucial ingredient to such "dusty" weapons. Iraq told the UN the powder was destined for a pharmaceutical company. A former weapons inspector says that company was ordered by President Saddam Hussein before the 1991 Persian Gulf war to work on chemical and biological weapons. The powder, sold under the brand name Aerosil, has particles so small that, when coated with deadly poisons, they can pass through the tiniest gaps in protective suits. Researchers inside and outside the U.S. government say they are not certain Iraq has dusty chemical weapons. Declassified U.S. intelligence documents say Iraq produced a dusty form of the blister agent mustard gas in the 1980s and used it during its eight-year war with Iran. - "Iraq takes delivery of powder used in chemical arms, " AP via Washington Times, 11/18/02

OCTOBER 2002 : (IMMIGRATION, ASSADI, IRAQ) A Washington, D.C. jury convicted Mohammed Hussein Assadi of smuggling Iraqis into the United States through Cali, Colombia, Ecuador, and other locations in South America. Assadi supplied illegal alien Iraqis with stolen and altered European passports and round-trip airline tickets to the U.S. in exchange for up to $8,000 per person. These Iraqi smugglees purchased documents at a commercial vendor in Northern Iraq called the "Market of Passports," which they used to travel through Turkey and Ecuador into Colombia. According to a statement from the U.S. attorney's office, Assadi instructed the aliens to destroy the fraudulent passports and tickets while en route to America and to surrender to U.S. immigration authorities without disclosing their true place of origin. The scheme relied on smug knowledge of our government's "catch and release" policy for illegal aliens who are freed pending deportation proceedings -- a policy that remains in place today. - "The Iraqi Infiltration," by Michelle Malkin, townhall.com, November 20, 2002

OCTOBER 2, 2002 : (SALIM ARRESTED BY ISRAELIS: HE IS LINKED TO IRAQ) Rakahd Salim, the General Secretary of the Front for National Liberation in the West Bank and Arafat advisor , was arrested on October 2, 2002 after documents seized by the IDF during operation "Defensive Shield" indicated that he was responsible on behalf of Saddam Hussein for the distribution of money to the families of Palestinian terrorists and suicide bombers. Salim was directly responsible for the transfer of Iraqi aid funds to the families of suicide bombers and Palestinian terrorists.

OCTOBER 8, 2002 : (SALEM or SALIM, IRAQ, WEST BANK, ARAB LIBERATION FRONT, FATAH, PLO, PLF) Saddam Hussein's pro-Iraqi "terror banker" on the West Bank, Rakad Salem (Rakahd Salim) , 58 - who personally met with Saddam in Baghdad - confesses to funneling $15 million to Palestinian terrorists. Investigators said documents obtained in the West Bank verified Salem's admission that $15 million had passed from Saddam's personal control through a series of bank accounts until it reached the Arab Liberation Front, where Salem was secretary-general. Investigators said Salem served as Saddam's conduit to terrorists in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. They said he admitted paying $10,000 to the family of every Palestinian "martyr" - the popular term for homicide bomber. In addition, seriously wounded survivors of attacks on Israelis would receive $1,000 in Iraqi money, he said. The less seriously wounded would get $500. Authorities said Salem's notoriety as Saddam's money man put him in close contact with leading Palestinian factions, including Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement, and he served on the Palestine Liberation Organization's Central Council. His arrest was the first of a major agent of the Iraqi dictator for a role in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Israeli authorities said the financial chain went from accounts in a branch of the Iraqi national bank in Amman, Jordan, to a Jordanian bank in Amman, to a Ramallah bank controlled by Salem. Israeli prosecutors did not say over what time period the $15 million was transferred. Until his arrest, Salem had occupied a fifth-floor office in Ramallah, on the same floor as the terrorist Palestinian Liberation Front, whose leader, Abu Abbas, carried out the 1986 hijacking of the cruise ship Achille Lauro. Israeli authorities say Salem had close ties to Abbas, who is believed to be hiding out in Iraq. Salem was arrested last week by Israeli commandos who were disguised as Arabs. He is being held at an undisclosed location - "TERROR BANKER" by URI DAN, New York Post , October 9, 2002

JANUARY 5, 2003 Sunday : (US : FLORIDA) On January 5, at a press conference in Miami, the former personal pilot of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez dropped a bombshell that has been ignored by just about every major U.S. news organization: The Venezuelan president, according to the pilot, gave al Qaeda a substantial sum of money following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks. Venezuelan Air Force Major Juan Diaz Castillo, who is now seeking political asylum in the United States and says his "life and liberty are in danger in Venezuela," says Chavez chose him to conduct the transfer because he trusted him as a close personal assistant. At a Miami press conference this past Sunday (January 5, 2003), Diaz said that shortly following the September 11 terrorist attacks, Chavez commissioned him "to organize, coordinate, and execute a covert operation consisting of delivering financial resources, specifically $1 million, to [Afghanistan's] Taliban government, in order for them to assist the al-Qaeda terrorist organization," while, "making it appear as if humanitarian aid were being extended to the Afghan people." The first attempt to transfer the money fell through, but in late September 2001 Venezuelan Vice President Diosdado Cabello decided to funnel the money through Venezuela's ambassador in India, one Walter Marquez. The Taliban received the money and publicly acknowledged receipt of $100,000 in "humanitarian aid." "The rest went straight to al Qaeda," claims Díaz Castillo. "That is, $900,000." There is more. Diaz Castillo said that while in the Venezuelan air force, he saw Chavez's government send pro-Chavez armed groups — named "Bolivarian Circles," after South American independence hero Simón Bolívar — to Cuba for military training and ideological indoctrination, in order "to carry out acts of violence through them" against opponents. Diaz also says that Chavez has supplied money and arms to the Marxist guerrillas in neighboring Colombia that have plunged that country into chaos. Diaz Castillo's testimony alone should not be taken at face value — but his statements are consistent with other defectors' testimony and Chavez's public behavior, such as the testimony of General Marcos Ferreira, who resigned as director of venezuela's border-control service, and the testimony of General Nestor Gonzalez, another military dissident. - "Chavez Bombshell? - A defector’s testimony links the Venezuelan strongman to international terror," by Ivan G. Osorio , www.nationalreview.com , January 8, 2003

149 posted on 01/15/2003 10:07:00 PM PST by piasa
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To: ABrit; piasa
Don't know. Let's ask Cheney in the morning:

From Bob Woodward's book:

2002 : They turned to the hot topic of anthrax. The powder in the letter mailed to Senator Daschle's office had been found to be potent, prompting officials to suggest its source was likely an expert capable of producing the bacteria in huge amounts. Tenet said, "I think it's AQ -- meaning Al Qaeda."

"I think there's a state sponsor involved. It's too well thought-out, the powder's too well refined. It might be Iraq, it might be Russia, it might be a renegade scientist, perhaps from Iraq or Russia."

"I'm not going to talk about a state sponsor." Tenet assured them.

"It's good that we don't." said Cheney, "because we're not ready to do anything about it." - Bob Woodward, Bush at War (2002), pp. 248-249.

128 posted on 01/15/2003 11:01 PM CST by piasa

I guess we're ready to do something about it now? Hold the oilfields that Russia has liens on in conservancy, choking off cash flow? Putin sure has been sucking up, lately.

150 posted on 01/15/2003 10:16:08 PM PST by txhurl
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To: piasa
1998 : (AAI , AN AL GAMA AL-ISLAMYA TERRORIST LINKED TO LUXOR ATTACK ENTERS COLUMBIA) Bin Laden, a Saudi exile sheltered by Muslim extremists in Afghanistan, is the U.S. government's prime suspect in the attacks. According to Colombian police reports shared with U.S.intelligence agencies, an Islamic militant connected to the 1997 Luxor massacre of 80 western tourists in Egypt entered Colombia in 1998 on a forged passport obtained through local contacts. Identified as a member of the terrorist organization Al Gama Al-Islamya, Mohamed Enid Abdel Aai was arrested and deported to Ecuador as he attempted to reach FARC guerrilla bases, Colombian police sources say.
The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, known by its Spanish initials FARC, is the military wing of the Columbian Communist party and the country's largest rebel group. It has recently won several concessions, including a 'safe haven' zone, via peace negotiations with the Colombian government despite its ties tobombings, murder, kidnapping and drug trafficking. "It was similar to the recent case of three IRA terrorists caught operating with FARC," said Colombia's police chief at the time, Gen. Jose Serrano. According to Serrano, up to 100 members of radical Islamic groups with connections to Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan have operated in Colombia and other South American countries over recent years in league with local criminal and terrorist organizations.
Following the September 11 attacks, Colombian police revealed radio intercepts in which FARC leader Mono Jojoy calls for attacks against targets in the United States. - "Search for Bin Laden links looks SOUTH, " By Martin Arostegui, http://www.autentico.org/oa09505.html , Organización Auténtica . October 2001

1999 : (MOKHLES, A TERRORIST LINKED TO THE LUXOR MASSACRE, IS ARRESTED AS HE CROSSES FROM BRAZIL INTO URUGUAY) Another Egyptian terrorist accused of participating in the Luxor massacre, Hassan Ali Mohammed Mokhles was arrested in 1999 as he crossed into Uruguay from Brazil. He was accused of forging passports and of fund raising for radical Islamic causes. According to Brazil's State Intelligence Secretariat, or SIDE, Mohkles had undergone military and intelligence training in Afghanistan. - "Search for Bin Laden links looks SOUTH, " By Martin Arostegui, http://www.autentico.org/oa09505.html , Organización Auténtica . October 2001

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 : (US SEEKS MOKHLES' WIFE, HAMANRA) Just hours after last month's hijacked plane crashes against the New York World Trade Center and the Pentagon in Washington, the FBI requested South American security services to intensify efforts to locate Mohkles' wife, Sahar Mohammed Hassan Abud Hamanra, according to the Bogota weekly magazine, Cambio. Law enforcement sources quoted in the report say she could be the contact between al Qaida and a 13,000-strong Arab community spread between a triangle of cities straddling the borders of Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay; Ciudad del Este, Foz de Iguacu and Puerto Iguazu. The FBI reportedly traced several telephone calls between the United States and at least one of those cities immediately following theterrorist onslaught. - "Search for Bin Laden links looks SOUTH, " By Martin Arostegui, http://www.autentico.org/oa09505.html , Organización Auténtica . October 2001

JULY 2001 approx : (ARAB ARRESTED FOR SMUGGLING GIVES FOREWARNING) U.S. law enforcement agencies fear that members of bin Laden's network could be obtaining false Argentine documentation in the area in order to enter the United States without acquiring visas, according to sources in the SIDE. The intelligence agency had already reported the arrest of one Arab on smuggling charges two months prior to the September attacks who talked about impending terrorist operations in the United States.
International law enforcement agencies report that radical Islamic activity in Latin America is closely connected to drug trafficking and arms dealing in the area. Indeed, Colombian police sources warn that dozens of Afghans using false Pakistani passports have been involved in developing illegal poppy cultivations to make heroin. "Poppy growths recently uncovered in Colombia are planted in long rows similar to the growing methods detected in Afghanistan," observed ex-police chief Serrano. - "Search for Bin Laden links looks SOUTH, " By Martin Arostegui, http://www.autentico.org/oa09505.html , Organización Auténtica . October 2001

SEPTEMBER 2001 (3 IRAQIS ARRESTED IN MIAMI, CHILE) Three Iraqi nationals suspected of arms smuggling were caught entering Miami last month after spending two months in Colombia's FARC-controlled zone of San Vicente del Caguan, according to the FBI. Other Iraqis using forged travel documents were simultaneously arrested in Chile. Last year authorities in the Cayman Islands detained three Afghans using false Pakistani passports as they tried to deposit $2 milliondollars in suspected drug money at a local bank. The individuals identified as native Afghans by British police investigators had entered on a commercial flight from Cuba. According to British government sources, the three are still in custody. - "Search for Bin Laden links looks SOUTH, " By Martin Arostegui, http://www.autentico.org/oa09505.html , Organización Auténtica . October 2001

151 posted on 01/15/2003 10:20:33 PM PST by piasa
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To: Howlin
More trivia:

NOVEMBER 2001 : (IRAQI ADNAN SAEED AL-HAIDERI DEFECTS TO IRAQI NATIONAL CONGRESS IN UK) Adnan Saeed al-Haideri, an Iraqi specialist who visited scores of clandestine weapons sites, defects to the INC. Al- Haideri had become Iraq's top authority in specialized epoxies used to seal minute cracks in concrete structures and clean rooms to prevent leaks that could give away their location. His skills made him an essential partner of Iraq's Special Security Organization, which used him to hide mini-production labs and storage facilities in private houses and other sites across Iraq. Al Haideri would later supply to the CIA information in the Iraqi weapons program which the White House would eventuallly issue as part of a report to go with President Bush's speech to the UN in September 2002. . - "How Saddam Got Weapons of Mass Destruction" By Kenneth R. Timmerman, Insight Magazine via WorldNetDaily.com , Tuesday, October 1, 2002 ,

DECEMBER 2001 : (CUBA, SAO PAULO FORUM MEETING) The last meeting was held in Havana, Cuba in December 2001. It involved terrorists from Latin America, Europe and the Middle East, and sharply condemned the Bush administration and its actions against international terrorism. The Sao Paulo forum was founded by Brazilian da Silva (now President da Silva of Brazil)and Fidel Castro - "Blocking a New Axis of Evil," by Constantine C. Menges, The Washington Times, August 7, 2002

DECEMBER 2001 : (IRAQI DEFECTOR ADNAN SAEED AL-HAIDERI DEBRIEFED BY CIA) The CIA debriefed Adnan Al-Haideri. He identified 300 separate clandestine sites used by Iraq to hide biological and chemical weapons and nuclear materials. Some of the equipment was hidden in lead containers stored in fake wells lined with concrete. Al- Haideri said he was called in to seal cracks in the concrete because the Iraqis feared U.S. surveillance satellites would pick up the slightest radioactive emissions. Al-Haideri's access to Iraq's best-kept secrets provided the United States with a "motherlode of intelligence," one source familiar with his debriefing tells Insight. - "How Saddam Got Weapons of Mass Destruction" By Kenneth R. Timmerman, Insight Magazine via WorldNetDaily.com , Tuesday, October 1, 2002 ,

152 posted on 01/15/2003 10:31:52 PM PST by piasa
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To: MadIvan
Here's how it's gonna go down:

Iraq has a mountain full of WMD. It's been hidden and they know where it is. The US needs another few weeks to get everything in place to take action.

Bush sicks the UN Inspectors on the mountain and Saddam either stops them from going in the mountain or they go in and find the smoking gun. Either way Saddam looses and we have our troops there ready to strike.

Checkmate !

153 posted on 01/15/2003 10:43:03 PM PST by america-rules
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To: piasa
Then there's this hue and cry from Jan 10:

Breaking - Russian Intel Believed To Be "Working" With Iraqi Spy Agencies (Drudge)

I personally can't allow Russia into my war model at this time... not really ready for WWIII this month.

154 posted on 01/15/2003 10:46:37 PM PST by txhurl
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To: america-rules
I've been saying the same thing. Unfortunately, if the inspectors are allowed access and they DO find anything, they'll never be heard from again. They will be the first casualties.
155 posted on 01/15/2003 10:47:15 PM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepaholic Navy Vet)
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To: MadIvan
I sense "strategery" is going to triumph again shortly

Yup, set them up once again.

156 posted on 01/15/2003 10:57:03 PM PST by paul51
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the heads up!
157 posted on 01/15/2003 10:57:36 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: piasa
Wow. Great info.
158 posted on 01/15/2003 11:04:27 PM PST by abner (www.usflagballoon.com)
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To: MadIvan; Robert_Paulson2
My guess is that Bush will just up the ante a bit. He did this before the September 11 anniversary last year. Exactly one month before the anniversary, "person of interest" Steve Hatfill broke his silence and held a press conference denying any role in the anthrax killings. Around the same time, a top administration official leaked to the LA Times that the administration would be "talking more" about Mohammed Atta's meeting with a known Iraqi spy in Prague. The FBI announced a sudden and unexpected return to American Media, scene of the first anthrax killing, telling the press that the purpose was to look for the letter(s) which contained the anthrax that killed Bob Stevens -- letters whose public description has been suppressed by the FBI, by the way. The unexpected and, indeed, inexplicable, return visit to the crime scene was scheduled to end on 9/11/02. On September 8, a few days before the anniversary and Bush's UN speech, Dick Cheney brought up the topic of anthrax out of the blue on Meet the Press:
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Who did the anthrax attack last fall, Tim? We don’t know.
Meanwhile, Bush was dropping a few hints himself. On August 11:
"But I do believe the American people understand that weapons of mass destruction in the hands of leaders such as Saddam Hussein are very dangerous for us and our allies. They understand the concept of blackmail and that when we speak of making the world more safe, we do so not only in the concept of terrorist groups but of nations that have proven themselves to be bad neighbors and bad actors."
While all this was going on, Tony Blair's government was building up the suspense by promising the release of a dossier on Iraq's WMD.

And yet, although he took it took the brink, Bush blinked. The Amerithrax charade -- written by and starring Steve Hatfill -- was not retired: it lumbers on, ever more ludicrous, to this day. The administration is still playing peek-a-boo with the evidence of Atta's meeting in Prague. And Saddam still hasn't taken exile. The bottom line is, Saddam can still kill millions of Americans if we take him out -- that's what the anthrax letters signify -- and there's still nothing we can do about it. So, you can expect these gambits from time to time, to put the pressure on Saddam, make him consider the virtues of exile. But I wouldn't get your hopes up too much. The ultimate determining factor here is how much pain can Saddam inflict on the American people if we take him out. His destruction of the WTC on 9/11/01 will seem like a tiny pin-prick compared to the destruction implied in the Daschle letter. I'm highly doubtful that Bush will go all the way in the State of the Union speech. Expect things to be ramped up a notch, expect the heat to be kept on, but don't expect the truth. Some truths are too hard to handle.

159 posted on 01/15/2003 11:21:01 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: MadIvan
I hope this is the big one -- a revelation by the administration that Saddam was complicit in 9/11 and wholly reponsible for the subsequent anthrax attacks/warnings. Expecting Bush to connect Saddam to OKC is a bit too much to ask for, but that would be the icing on the cake.
160 posted on 01/15/2003 11:26:30 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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