Drugs and terrorism and insulting ads

Boston Globe ^ | 1/13/2003 | Cathy Young

[MrLeRoy]

IT WAS ONLY a matter of time: A new television ad campaign suggests that if you drive a sport -utility vehicle, you are helping terrorism by putting money in the pockets of oil-producing, terrorism-sponsoring countries like Saudi Arabia and Iraq. One of the commercials cuts from a man at a gas station to a map of the Middle East to video footage of a terrorist training camp, while a little girl's voice says, ''These are the terrorists who get money from those countries every time George fills up his SUV.''

[ThinkDifferent]

One last time -- the above is not my philosophy

I know. I'm trying to show that opposition to that philosophy in all cases is unreasonable.

I attributed the above philosophy to others on this board who: Don't do drugs, don't advocate others doing drugs, but don't think that drugs should be illegal.

You can add me to the list of people who recognize that not all foolish behavior must be prevented by government violence.

But the above philosophy hinges around some activity, X, that is currently illegal.

So drugs are bad because they're illegal? I thought they were illegal because they were bad.

[Hacksaw]

Yeah, those pesky leftists like William Buckley, Walter Williams, Milton Friedman, and the Cato Institute. Thank God we have good conservatives like Bill Clinton who broke the record for number of nonviolent drug offenders imprisoned.

I have not seen any of these people write articles on how weed makes one a better driver. They write about drugs as a freedom issue, not of how wonderful they are, like many on this forum. I disagree with them.

And again, the pro drug crowd are much more closely allied with the liberals than I am. Nations like Canada, cities like Copenhagen and Amsterdam, and states like California are not exactly conservative areas. Yet - in true "doublethink" fashion, this is dismissed. It is a classical example of projection.

As for you statement that I do not make arguments in favor of keeping drugs illegal - detailing the societal and personal damage they do, I have in the past, and they were summarily ignored. Why should I bother now? My concern now is the Orwellianism among a large part of the legalize crowd.

What is actually funny is when the pro drug crowd calls an opponent a liberal and a Nazi in the same post. Saturday Night Live material.

[Hacksaw]

TJ, I am still here. Still waiting to learn of the hell you will unleash upon me, pops.

[Hacksaw]

Oooops, I should have sent that post to TJ and not myself. I guess I have had too much of the deadly and addictive drug nicotine. Perhaps I should take MrLeRoy's advice on how weed makes one a better driver.

And when you read this Monday at work, LeRoy, don't even try it. You are a parasite and nothing else.

[Hacksaw]

Still waiting. When will you release your biblical vengeance upon me? Will you report me to Jimbo? Will you call me names? Go for it - I am actually intersted in the results.

For what it is worth, I have zero respect for the people on this forum who promote drugs in the name of freedom. They are only lying to themselves. They are liberal parasites, and nothing else.

[MrLeRoy]

All you do MrLeRoy, is post from work. You are a hanger on - a parasite who uses other peoples money for your agenda.

As I've already explained to you, my Internet use is within company guidelines. Your inability to attack my arguments, for which you substitute personal attacks, is duly noted.

[MrLeRoy]

You are a drug advocate.

You remain a liar.

[MrLeRoy]

Quintessential liberal rhetoric: opposing Big Government means you don't care.

Support of keeping drugs illegal does not make one a liberal.

Blubbering "you care nothing for your fellow man" makes you a liberal. Deal with it.

[MrLeRoy]

If the drugs-support-terrorists ads weren't effective, they wouldn't be hitting a raw nerve of truth,

They aren't.

and the pro-dopers and their shills wouldn't be wasting such pridigious sums of energy and time angrily denouncing them.

For "angrily denouncing" substitute "gleefully mocking".

[discostu]

I'm with you on this one, those commercials are stupid. And as a friend who was over to watch the game said, they probably present the best reason for legalizations: eradication of the black market and ceasing the funding of the type of people that "work" in same.

[Hemingway's Ghost]

The two "Pot is More Evil Than You Thought, Wiseguy" ads during the Superbowl were really, really funny.

[MrLeRoy]

Although I watched almost all of the game, I managed to miss the anti-drug ads.

[discostu]

My favorite was the "pregnant" teenager. My response to that was: smoking pot doesn't make girls tramps (if it did I'd have enjoyed my teenage years a lot more ;-), though being a tramp could cause a girl to hang out in crowds that smoke a lot of pot.

[discostu]

You're supposed to be watching for the commercials, better get with the program here.

Actually I think the best commercials of the year were network commercials that were actually right before the game. ABC twice spoofed the wrestling girl Miller Lite commercial (once with wrestling women once with wrestling men) to announce some show switching time slots. Brilliant.