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Drugs and terrorism and insulting ads
Boston Globe ^ | 1/13/2003 | Cathy Young

Posted on 01/14/2003 11:41:53 AM PST by MrLeRoy

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:08:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

IT WAS ONLY a matter of time: A new television ad campaign suggests that if you drive a sport -utility vehicle, you are helping terrorism by putting money in the pockets of oil-producing, terrorism-sponsoring countries like Saudi Arabia and Iraq. One of the commercials cuts from a man at a gas station to a map of the Middle East to video footage of a terrorist training camp, while a little girl's voice says, ''These are the terrorists who get money from those countries every time George fills up his SUV.''


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: drug; drugskill; terrorism; wod; wodlist
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To: Crusher138
I won't even go into other issues like pot related driving fatalities or homes burnt down because someone dozed off while tokin' his doobie...

Why not?

81 posted on 01/20/2003 6:30:34 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: MrLeRoy; ThomasJefferson
Jackdaw is a lying, lazy coward.

Your posts, along with pops (TJ), are all that is needed. All you do MrLeRoy, is post from work. You are a hanger on - a parasite who uses other peoples money for your agenda.

82 posted on 01/24/2003 8:10:35 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: MrLeRoy
Anyone who searches will find I am not a drug advocate, and that Hacksaw is a liar.

You are a drug advocate. You are not a freedom fighter. You are a liar (to yourself). I am right here. I will remain here.

Take me to court - I will win.

I can imagine the screeching post you will provide in response to this.

Looking forward to reading it when I get back next weekend.

83 posted on 01/24/2003 8:17:46 PM PST by Hacksaw
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To: MrLeRoy
Quintessential liberal rhetoric: opposing Big Government means you don't care.

And we get to the crux of your problem. Support of keeping drugs illegal does not make one a liberal. I am a fiscal and social conservative. If I was a social liberal, I would support the right to fist your girlfriend in public with a blazing blunt in mouth. You are a social liberal, I am not. Being a "liberal" does not and has and will never hinge on how one feels about drug legalization.

On the other hand, there are a group of people marching this weekend in Pittsburgh against the "war" in Iraq. among them are the "Free Mumias", the Socialists, and Students for a Responsible Drug Policy. Pittsburgh Tribune Review

I would suspect that the Drug Advocates, allied with socialists and the Mumias, are a bit to the left.

And yet more clear evidence is Canada, the attempts in CA, Copenhagen and Amsterdam. Drugs are a liberal cause (and not a classical liberal one at that).

84 posted on 01/25/2003 7:52:42 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: MrLeRoy
The least competent are the first to go.

The evidence of your employment rebuts that. I would fire your ass in a second. Actually, my division was sold to a Scottish bank which has all their programmers in Providence. Since I do want want to move there, I choose to stay in Pittsburgh.

And yes, I am employed again. Choke on that one.

85 posted on 01/25/2003 9:53:30 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: ThomasJefferson
You lied. Feel free to refute it with proof.

The search function is still working, pops.

86 posted on 01/25/2003 9:55:48 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: ThomasJefferson
After today, this nonsense will stop. Tonight you have a pass you little POS, but tomorrow, if you pull this crap again, management will be notified and the game will be up. Now crawl back into your hole you POS.

Do it. Go ahead, I do not hear you. Do it. Please. Take me down.

87 posted on 01/25/2003 9:59:08 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: thepitts
Dane is that you?

No.

88 posted on 01/25/2003 10:02:32 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: tpaine
Go get him TP ... Though MrLeRoy and I have had our differences, we still are in agreement about the WOD. Seems that Hacksaw is just another in a long line of WODies who either get their ya ya's controlling other people or make their living doing same.
89 posted on 01/25/2003 10:18:52 AM PST by clamper1797 (Per Caritate Viduaribus Orphanibusque Sed Prime Viduaribus)
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To: Hacksaw
Support of keeping drugs illegal does not make one a liberal.

There are reasonable conservative arguments in favor of keeping drugs illegal (not that you've made any). But your liberal tendencies are indicated by your statements that those who oppose government involvement in drugs lack morality and compassion. This is precisely equivalent to the inane liberal accusations that conservatives are greedy and selfish because they oppose bloated welfare programs.

I would suspect that the Drug Advocates, allied with socialists and the Mumias, are a bit to the left.

Yeah, those pesky leftists like William Buckley, Walter Williams, Milton Friedman, and the Cato Institute. Thank God we have good conservatives like Bill Clinton who broke the record for number of nonviolent drug offenders imprisoned.

90 posted on 01/25/2003 10:32:40 AM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: robertpaulsen
"I don't do X, I don't advocate anyone else doing X, but I don't think X should be illegal"

Do you make racist speeches? Do you advocate anyone else making racist speeches? Should racist speech be illegal?

91 posted on 01/25/2003 10:41:32 AM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: MrLeRoy
If the drugs-support-terrorists ads weren't effective, they wouldn't be hitting a raw nerve of truth, and the pro-dopers and their shills wouldn't be wasting such pridigious sums of energy and time angrily denouncing them.

The SUV owners-suppports-terrorists ads miss the point because SUVs have an overriding beneficial social utility and are virtually indistinguishable from any other vehicle in that respect.

Drugs have no compensating--let alone overriding--social worth or utility. None. Zip. They get bozos high and let Muhammad fly (e.g., 757s into the WTC).

92 posted on 01/25/2003 10:43:16 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: robertpaulsen
Good. If you'll agree to pay for X's abuse of drugs and leave me out of the mess, I'll gladly stand down and allow the two of you to sort it out, okay?
93 posted on 01/25/2003 10:44:48 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: ThinkDifferent
You have a definition for racist speech? Don't forget, some thought the book, "The Bell Curve", was racist. Some people think that if you speak out against "affirmative action", you're racist. Can I say I'm against "Martin Luther King Day", or is that considered racist? (We may want to ask Trent Lott's opinion on this one.)

My quote is explained on another post.

94 posted on 01/25/2003 10:57:09 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Kevin Curry; ThinkDifferent
Back up. My post #38 was simply a correction to my post #33.

In post #33, I was attributing the quote to MrLeRoy's philosophy on drugs (and probably other issues as well). MrLeRoy, Thomas Jefferson, Hemingway's Ghost and others say they do not do drugs, do not want others to do drugs, but drugs should not be illegal.

I was making the point to Hacksaw that I considered that philosophy hypocritical. I don't support it.

95 posted on 01/25/2003 11:08:40 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Kevin Curry
Drugs have no compensating--let alone overriding--social worth or utility

In a free country, one does not have to justify one's actions in terms of "social worth".

They get bozos high and let Muhammad fly

And now you're just lying. Note that the US paid the Taliban millions to support their anti-drug operations.

96 posted on 01/25/2003 11:19:39 AM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: robertpaulsen
You have a definition for racist speech?

Dodging the question. Let's make this real simple. Take the word "nigger". Do you use this word when referring to blacks? Do you recommend that others do so? Should its use be illegal?

97 posted on 01/25/2003 11:26:56 AM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: MrLeRoy
Yet somehow, I doubt that we'll see an ad campaign with the slogan, ''Fight terrorism - grow your own pot!''

I thought that was a pretty good line. It demonstrates the silliness of the (fill-in-the-blank)=terrorism tat. Propaganda is usually overblown in any arena, and it is often insulting to the intelligence.

98 posted on 01/25/2003 11:29:16 AM PST by avenir
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To: Psycho_Bunny
The US is losing it's long-cherished ability to disagree civilly.

I don't know about the USA, but many of the regular participants in these legalization threads have certainly lost it.

Rudeness abounds. The topic is divisive, but it's also interesting and you'd think civil discourse is at least possible.

Seems like the regulars are just in the habit of being nasty to each other because it makes their flesh feel so good. Hard habit to break...probably many times harder than drugs!

99 posted on 01/25/2003 11:48:08 AM PST by avenir
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To: ThinkDifferent
"I don't do X, I don't advocate anyone else doing X, but I don't think X should be illegal"

One last time -- the above is not my philosophy. I attributed the above philosophy to others on this board who: Don't do drugs, don't advocate others doing drugs, but don't think that drugs should be illegal.

See?

The reason I did this was to point out how, IMO, this was a hypocritical position to take. Others may disagree and see nothing hypocritical about it at all. Fine.

But the above philosophy hinges around some activity, X, that is currently illegal. Saying nigger is not illegal, just bad taste. And making it illegal would be interesting, since it would have to be illegal for everyone, wouldn't it?

100 posted on 01/25/2003 12:02:14 PM PST by robertpaulsen
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