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They don't like us...
Unknown | Joe Galloway

Posted on 01/13/2003 7:04:28 PM PST by ProudEagle

They Don't Like Us

Please read. Interesting point of view from someone who has actually been there. Provided by Joe Galloway, author of We Were Soldiers Once, and Young and is posted as an item of possible interest.

"This one is definitely NOT tongue in cheek. Sig, the author, was a teen-aged Marine who marched and fought as a rifleman to and from the Chosin reservoir in Korea in 1950. He switched to the Army, and served as a Special Forces officer in Vietnam. After Vietnam he joined the CIA, and went back to Korea. He's been there, done it, and has some specific thoughts on countries that don't "like" us."

If you aren't interested in the ramblings of an old man, please delete now.

If you're still there, pull up a chair and listen.

Is there anyone else out there who's sick and tired of all the polls being taken in foreign countries as to whether or not they "like" us? The last time I looked, the word "like" had nothing to do with foreign policy. I prefer 'respect' or 'fear'. They worked for Rome, which civilized and kept the peace in the known world a hell of a lot longer than our puny two centuries-plus.

I see a left-wing German got elected to office recently by campaigning against the foreign policy of the United States. Yeah, that's what I want, to be lectured about war and being a "good neighbor" by a German. Their head honcho said they wouldn't take part in a war against Iraq. Kind of nice, to see them taking a pass on a war once in while. Perhaps we needed to have the word "World" in front of War. I think it's time to bring our boys home from Germany. Outside of the money we'd save, we'd make the Germans "like" us a lot more, after they started paying the bills for their own defense.

Last time I checked, France isn't too fond of us either. They sort of liked us back on June 6th, 1944, though, didn't they? If you don't think so, see how nicely they take care of the enormous American cemeteries up above the Normandy beaches. For those of you who've studied history, we also have a few cemeteries in places like Belleau Woods and Chateau Thierry also. For those of you who haven't studied it, that was from World War One, the first time Europe screwed up and we bailed out the French.

That's where the US Marines got the title 'Devil Dogs' or, if you still care about what the Germans think, "Teufelhunde". I hope I spelled that right; sure wouldn't want to offend anyone, least of all a German.

Come to think of it, when Europe couldn't take care of their Bosnian problem recently, guess who had to help out there also. Last time I checked, our kids are still there. I sort of remember they said they would be out in a year. Gee, how time flies when you're having fun.

Now we hear that the South Koreans aren't too happy with us either. They "liked" us a lot better, of course, in June, 1950. It took more than 50,000 Americans killed in Korea to help give them the lifestyle they currently enjoy, but then who's counting? I think it's also time to bring the boys home from there. There are about 37,000 young Americans on the DMZ separating the South Koreans from their "brothers" up North. Maybe if we leave, they can begin to participate in the "good life" that North Korea currently enjoys. Uh huh. Sure.

I also understand that a good portion of the Arab/Moslem world now doesn't "like" us either. Did anyone ever sit down and determine what we would have to do to get them to like us? Ask them what they would like us to do. Die?. Commit ritual suicide? Bend over? Maybe we should follow the advice of our dimwitted, dullest knife in the drawer, Senator Patty Murray, and build more roads, hospitals, day care centers, and orphanages like Osama bin Laden does. What with all the orphans Osama has created, the least he can do is build some places to put them. Senator Stupid says if we would only "emulate" Osama, the Arab world would love us.

Sorry Patty; in addition to the fact that we already do all of those things around the world and have been doing them for over sixty years, I don't take public transportation, and I certainly wouldn't take it with a bomb strapped to the guy next to me.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not in favor of going to war. Been there, done that. Several times, in fact. But I think we ought to have some polls in this country about other countries, and see if we "like" THEM. Problem is, if you listed the countries, not only wouldn't the average American know if he liked them or not, he wouldn't be able to find them. If we're supposed to worry about them, how about them worrying about us?

We were nice to the North Koreans in 1994, as we followed the policies of Neville Clinton. And it seemed to work; they didn't re-start nuclear weapons program for a whole year or so. In the meantime, we fed them when they were starving, and put oil in their stoves when they were freezing.

In a recent visit to Norway, I engaged in a really fun debate with my cousin's son, a student at a Norwegian University. I was lectured to by this thankless squirt about the American "Empire", and scolded about dropping the atomic bomb on the Japanese. I reminded him that empires usually keep the stuff they take; we don't, and back in 1945 most Norwegians thought dropping ANY kind of bomb on Germany or Japan was a good idea. I also reminded him that my uncle, his grandfather, and others in our family spent a significant time in Sachsenhausen concentration camp, courtesy of the Germans, and they didn't all survive. I further reminded him that if it wasn't for the "American Empire" he would probably be speaking German or Russian.

Sorry about the rambling, but I just took an unofficial poll here at our house, and we don't seem to like anyone.

Happy New Year.


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Amen, Mr. Galloway. Amen.
1 posted on 01/13/2003 7:04:28 PM PST by ProudEagle
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2 posted on 01/13/2003 7:06:06 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: AntiJen; SAMWolf; Kathy in Alaska
Ping. Pass amongst the troops if you would please.
3 posted on 01/13/2003 7:06:16 PM PST by ProudEagle
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Passing it on ProudEagle.

Big Amen from me.


4 posted on 01/13/2003 7:12:32 PM PST by Dubya
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To: ProudEagle
I liked this article too, why should we give a rip if snail suckers in France and goat herders in Bosnia like us?
5 posted on 01/13/2003 7:12:51 PM PST by Commander8
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To: Commander8
South Korea is the France of Asia!
6 posted on 01/13/2003 7:14:20 PM PST by Righty1
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To: Dubya
Passing it on ProudEagle

Thanks Dubya, my forum skills are a bit lacking.

7 posted on 01/13/2003 7:16:37 PM PST by ProudEagle
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To: ProudEagle
Truly poetic, a work of art in fact - provided Mr. Galloway doesn't mind my saying so.

Jealousy can be a real ugly vice.

8 posted on 01/13/2003 7:18:48 PM PST by TotusTuus
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Ping for an excellent read.
9 posted on 01/13/2003 7:20:11 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: ProudEagle
I already knew THEY didn't like us. As Rush points out, THEY are jealous.

But that wasn't the THEY I expected to find out didn't like US. Because THEYs exist in America as well, people who hate America, despise our beliefs and our way of life, while at the same time, enjoying the fruits and freedoms WE provide.

THEY teach our children in college.

THEY make movies trashing our culture.

THEY anchor our newscasts and tell US what THEY think we should think.

And THEY are a bigger threat to US than any foreigners, including Osama and Saddam.

You know who THEY are.

10 posted on 01/13/2003 7:20:48 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Where liberals lead, misery follows.)
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To: ProudEagle
Good stuff. We Were Soldiers Once and Young is a great book.
11 posted on 01/13/2003 7:21:50 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: ProudEagle
You did a great job and a very worth while post. I am printing this one out.
12 posted on 01/13/2003 7:22:48 PM PST by Dubya
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To: ProudEagle
They don't like us...

I don't like them right back. Works for me.

13 posted on 01/13/2003 7:25:29 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: burnettp1
I thought you would like this
14 posted on 01/13/2003 7:25:34 PM PST by Robe
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To: SAMWolf
bump for a later read
15 posted on 01/13/2003 7:27:09 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: ProudEagle
Good article, especially coming from Joe Galloway. Joe interviewed me years ago in another combat zone, and I greatly enjoyed my time with him. He is a stand up guy, and a first-rate war correspondent who knows his subject. I wouldn't give the time of day to many besides him...
16 posted on 01/13/2003 7:33:19 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: ProudEagle
Aaah...common sense. BTTT.
17 posted on 01/13/2003 7:33:30 PM PST by copycat (Arbeit macht frei.)
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To: ProudEagle
Great read, thanks, I needed it. Galloway for President.
18 posted on 01/13/2003 7:35:21 PM PST by da_toolman (crude, but effective)
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To: ProudEagle
Now we hear that the South Koreans aren't too happy with us either.

That's mostly their left wing campus crowd, same as here. Trouble is, I think they just elected their own version of Jimmy Cahter or the sink man.

19 posted on 01/13/2003 7:37:01 PM PST by El Gato
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks for the ping!
20 posted on 01/13/2003 7:41:50 PM PST by Aquamarine
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