[July 4th]

In my own personal experiences, it's the woman who is afraid of committment - not the man. Most of the guys I know, including myself, are sick of the crap that goes on Saturday nights at the bar. One-night-stands are at an all time high, but what I've seen suggests that it's the woman who's looking for the one-nighter, so she can go back to the bar the next night and try out another guy.

Actions like this contribute to the "guy confusion" factor. What the hell do they want us to do? Take them home for the night and try them out? It's enough to make someone throw their hands up and say, "it ain't worth the trouble."

[Maximum Leader]

This thread is crying out for innocentbystander or his doppelganger, buddhaboy.

The reality is that men tend to prefer younger mates and women prefer older. As a consequence, the older a man gets the bigger his pool to choose from, and the older a woman gets, the smaller the pool.

The closer I get to 30, the more attractive women I seem to come across. I haven't found my soulmate yet, but then again, maybe she's home tonight studying for her geometry exam. :o)

[Cacique]

bump for later perusal

[WFTR]

"You waiting for the perfect woman? The right one with the right skin complexion, the right height, the right voice intonation, the right job? When that person comes, God loves that person too much to give her to you.

This idiot preacher says these things and the author of this article quotes him, and then they whine about men not wanting to go to church anymore. If God hates me so much that He won't let me have someone who is desirable, then He shouldn't be surprised when I don't come to church anymore.

I can never resist these threads because while most of this person's words are stupid, the problem that she raises is real. We have reached a point in this country where it is very difficult to meet quality single people. It's a problem for both men and women, and it's a problem that seems to apply to people in many age ranges.

I'm 39 and have never been married. I spent my young adult years in conservative evangelical and Pentecostal churches. I met some nice women when I was in college, but a match was just never there. To be honest, I didn't have what it took to impress them at that time, and they didn't see to a time when I would be more accomplished. Furthermore, dating in the church was awkward. The truth is that the church was very negative towards dating, courting, or whatever term was currently popular. The church liked to pretend that we should be too dedicated to God to think about those things. Of course, everyone thought about them constantly and just pretended otherwise. The fact that I was never good at this duplicity made the situation more difficult for me.

Since leaving college, I've only rarely met anyone who was even single much less single and compatible. I've never done the bar scene because it just didn't appeal to me. I tried joining some hiking and volleyball clubs. I had fun, but I never met any single women. In more recent years, I've volunteered for many political campaigns. I feel good about the efforts that I made for strong conservative candidates, but I never met any single women. I tried the health club scene once, but I think most people are now seeing that health clubs were always overrated as places to meet people. I tried the adult education routine once and should probably try again. I just wasn't that encouraged about it.

Where do we go to meet single people? I just don't know, but I agree that finding people is extremely difficult. Finding someone and feeling anything whatsoever for her is even more difficult. Finding someone for whom I feel something who can return my feelings has so far been impossible.

WFTR
Bill

[snowstorm12]

are they kidding? All women (if they'd get some self esteem) can marry a wealthy, nice, smart, intelligent, drop dead gorgeous man if they'd just put in minimum effort. The men want extreme beauty so women you too set your standards very high for beauty.

Women need to stop going to bars and accepting drinks from alcoholics (drinks probably laced with date rape drugs) . What kind of desperate women would go to a bar these days? Didn't that like go out of style in the 1970's? ha ha pathetic men hang out in bars or college men on their way to being the future alcoholics of America hang out there. The top males in the United States don't. I have yet to see a good looking man or a half way decent looking women for that matter in a bar. Women can marry rich AND good looking, moral, caring men. Rich men want to find a wife to marry because they have everything else. Illegitimate children are a messy and turbulant situation.

[snowstorm12]

Oh yeah and another thing to these so called women who can't find a husband.

If women can't find what they need here in the United States there are plenty of wealthy intelligent men around the globe. Make millions yourself ladies and then hang out with the rich. You can pick from any man you want and move to Monaco.

Every women needs to be like J. Lo and make all the money, marry high class and get their own Ben Affleck. She dumped ugly men for better looking younger men each time. J. Lo doesn't need to marry anybody 6 years older or a gramps who is like 40 o 50! ha ha J. Lo can marry a young stud if she want's. She will probably dump Ben next and get a hot 22 year old heir to billions.

I've had at least 15 proposals and regularly get dozens of choices to date from weekly. What the hell is so difficult that's what I like to know? Women have low self esteem that's what it is.

All women in the United States need to be empowered to start their own businesses and make millions or billions. All young women need to sue for equality in the workplace to get same salaries for the same positions. This includes equal numbers of men and women at every level especially the top positions. All women need to encourage their daughters or they themselves to go to college for the highest paying jobs(the most financially rewarded) just like every man and get out of low wage womens work.

[lentulusgracchus]

"We still do not have a set of men who are capable and comfortable with strong, accomplished women," she says. "There's a quote: 'If we are going to have a new kind of woman, we need a new kind of man.' And that's where the glitch is. We don't have that kind of man."

Great quote, and so not true. This "type" has been around for years. He's called a Charley-boy, a cotquean (good Saxon word), an Inoffensive Man; and in the 70's he was portrayed by John Ritter.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

The alarm first went out in 1986: Newsweek magazine said single women age 40 and older were more apt to be killed by a terrorist than to get married.

This statement by Newsweak was a lie then, and it is still a lie.

[A. Pole]

As for churches, "They'd be great places if men ever flocked to them," but they don't. Other venues, such as the casual party, also often come up short.

"There's a lack of leisure time in our society where people had parties where people could be introduced to each other," she says. "The whole etiquette of socializing has declined, I think, which is a key part of meeting new people.

The pressure of free market society. Once the free market becomes the god - family, children and church are seen as unprofitable propositions (which they are in a sense).

[unixfox]

The popularity of the bachelorette shows on TV shows women want to be courted.

Yep, I'm gonna base my relationships and dating on a TV show. Get real, this is part of the problem. Too many damn TV shows that portray "poor little women" being mistreated, left out in the cold, and alone. When women see this crap they think that's the way ALL men treat them.

One thing I've learned now that I'm single is this...women care only about ONE thing.

M O N E Y

[Teacher317]

As for men, they need "to understand if they meet a good woman, they should marry her and have children with her."

In summation, it's our fault, yet again.

If only we would robotically fall into line with the woman's wants and forsake our own, we'd be better off. The mere coincidence of meeting obligates us to change our entire lives for her convenience. Typical male-subjugating philosophy.

[John123]

The idea that there are no suitable men left is a darn myth. I have two friends that I know who have always been single. They are both religious and hard working. They both have jobs and homes. For some reason, they are just shy and never been able to bring themselves to asking a women out for a date. They both are a little heavy. When a women complains about no men being available, I say that s hogwash! What they really mean is that their is no Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt out there with a zillion dollars so their everloving hearts can go pitter-patter.